Can you get ripped on Test alone??

[Dwntwnguy]

So I'm 40, 5'5 140. I have not tested bf in a while, but if i had to guess would say its about 13%. I have been working out about 10 years.
Can you get that "hard" look and defined abs on Test alone? Would be first cycle.

[Beyazit]

You liftin for ten yeara and you are 140!!!


Sorry m8 but Ramadan is over, you got to stop fasting and start eating before you think aboit aas again...

[Bio-Active]

So I'm 40, 5'5 140. I have not tested bf in a while, but if i had to guess would say its about 13%. I have been working out about 10 years.
Can you get that "hard" look and defined abs on Test alone? Would be first cycle.

To answer your question yes you can it you can do that with nutrition alone as well

[scorpion62]

So I'm 40, 5'5 140. I have not tested bf in a while, but if i had to guess would say its about 13%. I have been working out about 10 years.
Can you get that "hard" look and defined abs on Test alone? Would be first cycle.

Test e for a first cycle for you would be ok , I would suggest posting your diet in the nutrition section and get it checked ,how much cardio do you do ? Because diet and cardio will bring your BF down not steroids

[Dwntwnguy]

I have tried with nutrition. And if that's true, why are so many guys on AAS??
Thanks for the reply. Don't mean to be snarky, just frustrated.

[Dwntwnguy]

You liftin for ten yeara and you are 140!!!


Sorry m8 but Ramadan is over, you got to stop fasting and start eating before you think aboit aas again...

Dude, I'm 5'5. I'm not trying to look like a tank.

[papa-g]

I have tried with nutrition. And if that's true, why are so many guys on AAS??
Thanks for the reply. Don't mean to be snarky, just frustrated.

Because they weigh more the 140 lbs. steroids are it a magic pill. If you want your body to grow you need to feed it. You can't build house with out bricks. I. E. muscles won't grow if they don't get nutrients. What's your caloric intake perf day anyway. If its anything under 3000 that's why your still the same size. And most people who estimate BF are wrong so I'd gamble your idea of 13% is more like 15%_17% just saying.

[johnnymctrance]

Dude, I'm 5'5. I'm not trying to look like a tank.

Ye but in fairness 140 is probably too low of a weight to be doing gear....

If you cant grow off cycle you wont grow on cycle and loose any gains after

[Metalject]

To answer your question directly...yes, you can lean out well on test and test alone. As other said you can also lean out without gear but you'll always hold onto more lean tissue with gear, which will result in a better look. Can you get extremely hard with test and test only? Yes, to a degree but not as hard as other stacks. However, if you've never used gear before a basic cycle of testosterone is a good place to start. Personally I have no problem with new guys adding in a little Anavar to a first cycle but that's my opinion.

[Dwntwnguy]

Test e for a first cycle for you would be ok , I would suggest posting your diet in the nutrition section and get it checked ,how much cardio do you do ? Because diet and cardio will bring your BF down not steroids

Scorpion, Thanks for the response. I don't do what I consider a lot of cardio. I run two miles 4 or 5 times a week. My diet is pretty clean. I've posted one example of my diet a while back. Should try again. How much cardio do you do? You're ripped!

[papa-g]

Scorpion, Thanks for the response. I don't do what I consider a lot of cardio. I run two miles 4 or 5 times a week. My diet is pretty clean. I've posted one example of my diet a while back. Should try again. How much cardio do you do? You're ripped!

He's also a girl if your going by his Avi.

[Bio-Active]

I have tried with nutrition. And if that's true, why are so many guys on AAS??
Thanks for the reply. Don't mean to be snarky, just frustrated.

If you have tried nutrition and it didn't work then you are not eating right. You should be able to gain weight with or without aas.

[Bio-Active]

[QUOTE="johnnymctrance"]

Ye but in fairness 140 is probably too low of a weight to be doing gear....




I disagree there is more than just weight that goes into play here. If he is 140 and 8 % bodyfat but he knows how to eat correctly then he can do gear grow and stay lean

[Dwntwnguy]

Because they weigh more the 140 lbs. steroids are it a magic pill. If you want your body to grow you need to feed it. You can't build house with out bricks. I. E. muscles won't grow if they don't get nutrients. What's your caloric intake perf day anyway. If its anything under 3000 that's why your still the same size. And most people who estimate BF are wrong so I'd gamble your idea of 13% is more like 15%_17% just saying.

PAPA--that may be true, but 3000 calories a day and I'm 5'5???

[johnnymctrance]

[QUOTE=jim230027;6490898]

I disagree there is more than just weight that goes into play here. If he is 140 and 8 % bodyfat but he knows how to eat correctly then he can do gear grow and stay lean

But he isnt he said he is 13% and hes been working out for 10 years..... That tells me there is an issue with diet...

[scorpion62]

Scorpion, Thanks for the response. I don't do what I consider a lot of cardio. I run two miles 4 or 5 times a week. My diet is pretty clean. I've posted one example of my diet a while back. Should try again. How much cardio do you do? You're ripped!

It's not the miles you put in its the effort , if your not taking your heart rate up to 135 to 140 bpm and getting your body working then your runs won't do nothing for you , I cycle twice a week not right now I will start this next week winter and all that snow no way would I be out in that and do cardio at the end of my workout for around 10 minutes , please post your diet again there are loads of guys and girls over there that will help you get it sorted

[redz]

I`m 237lbs in my avatar, have a hard time believeing you can`t get over 140lbs with 10 years if training. Somethings not right.

[Bio-Active]

PAPA--that may be true, but 3000 calories a day and I'm 5'5???

Then you need to eat more. In all fairness bro I am not a very big guy and I would shrink away only eating 3,000 calories a day. I would be cutting hard on a calorie deficit like that!!

[papa-g]

PAPA--that may be true, but 3000 calories a day and I'm 5'5???

So. When did height determine an individuals appetite? Not trying to be rude. I'm 5'11" and I'm 180. I have a smile bone structure and gaining is hard but I eat like a mule. So how is it the 6 inches equals 40 lbs more. ??

[papa-g]

Then you need to eat more. In all fairness bro I am not a very big guy and I would shrink away only eating 3,000 calories a day. I would be cutting hard on a calorie deficit like that!!

Yea but your not 140 lbs. if you were 3000 should Suffice for good lean growth. IMO.

[Dwntwnguy]

To answer your question directly...yes, you can lean out well on test and test alone. As other said you can also lean out without gear but you'll always hold onto more lean tissue with gear, which will result in a better look. Can you get extremely hard with test and test only? Yes, to a degree but not as hard as other stacks. However, if you've never used gear before a basic cycle of testosterone is a good place to start. Personally I have no problem with new guys adding in a little Anavar to a first cycle but that's my opinion.

Metal, thanks for answering the question directly.

[Dwntwnguy]

If you have tried nutrition and it didn't work then you are not eating right. You should be able to gain weight with or without aas.

But good lean gains?

[Times Roman]

arnold really didin't start with AAS until after he was big...............

[Dwntwnguy]

So. When did height determine an individuals appetite? Not trying to be rude. I'm 5'11" and I'm 180. I have a smile bone structure and gaining is hard but I eat like a mule. So how is it the 6 inches equals 40 lbs more. ??

I guess I just have a complex about taking in that many calories. Don't want to gain fat! My TDEE IS 2289. That would be 700 calories more.

[redz]

I guess I just have a complex about taking in that many calories. Don't want to gain fat! My TDEE IS 2289. That would be 700 calories more.

You shouldnt be afraid to gain any kind of weight at 140lbs. Eat!

[Bio-Active]

Yea but your not 140 lbs. if you were 3000 should Suffice for good lean growth. IMO.

To the OP post up everything you ate yesterday. Do have your macros?

[Dwntwnguy]

To the OP post up everything you ate yesterday. Do have your macros?

Here's what I ate yesterday:



Carbs. Protein.
Meal 1.
Protein shake 7c 60p

Meal 2
Protein shake. 20c 69 p

Meal 3.
Pulled pork 40.5c. 28.5p
Green beans

meal 4
Pulled Pork. 40.5c. 28.5p
Green Beans
Red wine

Daily total
Calories: Carbs. Protein
1914. 101 g 186p

[Bio-Active]

Why are you not eating any real carbs. You should be eating carbs if you want to grow. Greens are good but you need carbs and don't other protein than pork

[DB1982]

Here's what I ate yesterday:

Carbs. Protein.
Meal 1.
Protein shake 7c 60p

Meal 2
Protein shake. 20c 69 p

Meal 3.
Pulled pork 40.5c. 28.5p
Green beans

meal 4
Pulled Pork. 40.5c. 28.5p
Green Beans
Red wine

Daily total
Calories: Carbs. Protein
1914. 101 g 186p

Well that's why your not growing. Your not eating enough.
You need more carbs too.
Also 70% of your total protein intake came from shakes. Which isn't wrong but shows your lack of perpetration for your diet.

Head over to nutrition forum and learn.

[Dwntwnguy]

Why are you not eating any real carbs. You should be eating carbs if you want to grow. Greens are good but you need carbs and don't other protein than pork

Pork was yesterday. Sometimes it's chicken, sometimes fish. My goal is to only make lean gains, so I try to eat lean.

[Bio-Active]

Pork was yesterday. Sometimes it's chicken, sometimes fish. My goal is to only make lean gains, so I try to eat lean.

You are not going to be able to gain without carbs. That's to many protein shakes too. You really should hit the nutrition forum. Until you get your nutrition sorted out any steroids will just be a huge disappointment

[pitchindude]

Pork was yesterday. Sometimes it's chicken, sometimes fish. My goal is to only make lean gains, so I try to eat lean.

You still need to eat more. Lifting for 10 years and weighing in at 140 is just wrong. Eat or stay small. Stop worrying about chunkin up a little, just eat more to see gains.

[Livinlean]

Pork was yesterday. Sometimes it's chicken, sometimes fish. My goal is to only make lean gains, so I try to eat lean.

Everyone tries to stay lean but dude 50% of your meals are shakes.. Nothing wrong with shakes (IMO) but should be nowhere close to half your meals and should never even be replacing a meal. You NEED food to grow. If anything you should be having meals in place of those shakes and adding in the shakes in between your meals.

[Arykred]

I'm 40 yo, 5'6", and pre steroids couldn't get Above 150 lb,. My first cycle got me to 160, kept my 9% body fat and new muscle tissue is harder than I've ever had. Nutrition wise.. I eat whatever gets in my way. I don't worry about it being lean and I eat as many complex carbs as I can..

[Arykred]

40 years old here. 5'6", and pre test was stuck at 150 for years. After one cycle of test enanthate I'm 161 lb with the same 9% body fat I had before.
Nutrition? I eat whatever holds still long enough to put it in my mouth. I don't worry about eating lean and make sure I get lots of complex carbs.

[MartyMcFly]

You still need to eat more. Lifting for 10 years and weighing in at 140 is just wrong. Eat or stay small. Stop worrying about chunkin up a little, just eat more to see gains.

I doubt his caloric intake. I'm 5'9 165 and am gaining strength and size on 2200 cals a day. 2400 cals and I can't see my abs after a week.

Do you log every calorie you eat? I used to estimate and once I actually kept a daily log I realized how much I was actually consuming. That made more of a difference than anything else. They are t just blowing smoke when they ask for your diet. It is far more important than ANYTHING else.

[kelkel]

You liftin for ten yeara and you are 140!!!


Sorry m8 but Ramadan is over, you got to stop fasting and start eating before you think aboit aas again...

Sorry but that's ^^ hysterical...



Here's your answer...

To answer your question directly...yes, you can lean out well on test and test alone. As other said you can also lean out without gear but you'll always hold onto more lean tissue with gear, which will result in a better look. Can you get extremely hard with test and test only? Yes, to a degree but not as hard as other stacks. However, if you've never used gear before a basic cycle of testosterone is a good place to start. Personally I have no problem with new guys adding in a little Anavar to a first cycle but that's my opinion.

[--->>405<<---]

Rough maintenance estimate: (LBM x 15)

140 x .87(%Lbm) = 121.8(lbs LBM)

121.8 x 15 = 1827cals (rough maintenance)

OP if u want to add mass i would suggest:

1. Posting a thread in nutrition section

2. Starting around 2200cals and seeing how u do. IMO 3000cals is way to much for ur stats. Unless u have an unusually high metabolism u will likely put on fat with a caloric intake that high.

Im 5'9" 195lbs 10% bf (175lbs LBM) and i eat 3000cals average per day to maintain. We'll see u in the nutrition section!

[Ashop]

So I'm 40, 5'5 140. I have not tested bf in a while, but if i had to guess would say its about 13%. I have been working out about 10 years.
Can you get that "hard" look and defined abs on Test alone? Would be first cycle.

Yes if your diet is right,,,without doubt.

[D2'd]

So. When did height determine an individuals appetite? Not trying to be rude. I'm 5'11" and I'm 180. I have a smile bone structure and gaining is hard but I eat like a mule. So how is it the 6 inches equals 40 lbs more. ??

I've heard it said that every inch is 7lbs. So a guy 3" taller than the other would need to be 21lbs heavier to look like he has the same mass as the shorter guy. Kinda makes sense.