Protein Synthesis on cycle

[lolfb]

450-500g IMO

That is way overkill. The recommended amount off cycle is 1-1.5g per LBM. Most people think its total bodyweight. OP should be eating around 160g of protein when off cycle. Maybe a bit more. 500g of protein is insane and costly. Not to mention that 500g is 2000 calories. If we consider someone on a 3k cal bulk diet, that leaves room for 250g of carbs and 0 room for fat.

OP, depending on your calorie requirements, you should be aiming for around 250g of protein, 400g of carbs and then <50g of healthy fats. You need carbs just as much if not more so then protein. I've gained off of diets that consisted mainly of carbs while keeping protein at 100-150g

Edit: read that you want 3600 calories. Bump up the protein to 300, carbs to 500g and around 40g in fats.

[The Titan99]

That is way overkill. The recommended amount off cycle is 1-1.5g per LBM. Most people think its total bodyweight. OP should be eating around 160g of protein when off cycle. Maybe a bit more. 500g of protein is insane and costly. Not to mention that 500g is 2000 calories. If we consider someone on a 3k cal bulk diet, that leaves room for 250g of carbs and 0 room for fat.

OP, depending on your calorie requirements, you should be aiming for around 250g of protein, 400g of carbs and then <50g of healthy fats. You need carbs just as much if not more so then protein. I've gained off of diets that consisted mainly of carbs while keeping protein at 100-150g

Edit: read that you want 3600 calories. Bump up the protein to 300, carbs to 500g and around 40g in fats.

At that amount of carbs I'd look like the Pillsbury dough boy!! I weigh 265 lbs at 10-12% BF and I never go over 300 carb even when bulking. I read Kai Green eats 600 protein/250 carb/150 fat.

[lolfb]

At that amount of carbs I'd look like the Pillsbury dough boy!! I weigh 265 lbs at 10-12% BF and I never go over 300 carb even when bulking. I read Kai Green eats 600 protein/250 carb/150 fat.

Kai Green is also on HGH, slin and grams upon grams of steroids. If he's running slin, which he most likely is, just one of his post workout shakes might contain those 250g of carbs. During the 4h time frame when I'm on slin at 15 ui, I get 200-300g of carbs in. And even at that many carbs, I still feel lethargic, which most likely has to do with low blood sugar. I'm pretty sure Kai is running slin at a way higher dose then me.

Plus I calculated the carbs based on OP's 3.6k cal requirements. Which I highly doubt he needs unless he wants to put on a lot of fat.

[Twin]

kai green is a genetic freak. doesnt matter what he does and on all sorts of steroids. 150 fat is way to much.

i personally wouldnt even cut with less than 300 carbs. let alone bulking...

At that amount of carbs I'd look like the Pillsbury dough boy!! I weigh 265 lbs at 10-12% BF and I never go over 300 carb even when bulking. I read Kai Green eats 600 protein/250 carb/150 fat.

That is way overkill. The recommended amount off cycle is 1-1.5g per LBM. Most people think its total bodyweight. OP should be eating around 160g of protein when off cycle. Maybe a bit more. 500g of protein is insane and costly. Not to mention that 500g is 2000 calories. If we consider someone on a 3k cal bulk diet, that leaves room for 250g of carbs and 0 room for fat.

OP, depending on your calorie requirements, you should be aiming for around 250g of protein, 400g of carbs and then <50g of healthy fats. You need carbs just as much if not more so then protein. I've gained off of diets that consisted mainly of carbs while keeping protein at 100-150g

Edit: read that you want 3600 calories. Bump up the protein to 300, carbs to 500g and around 40g in fats.

THIS...

[The Titan99]

kai green is a genetic freak. doesnt matter what he does and on all sorts of steroids. 150 fat is way to much.

i personally wouldnt even cut with less than 300 carbs. let alone bulking...





THIS...

That is a ridiculous statement. What do you mean it doesn't matter what he does? 150 fat is way too much for who and for what goals? I'm on GH and all sorts of steroids. Did you notice the name of this forum? How much do you weigh? How old are you? How are you training and what kind of split? How do you partition carbs and fats and when do you train. These are all extremely important factors when determining macros. Ecto/Endo/Meso? One thing's for sure, if your cutting with 300 grams of carbs and your not Kai Greene your not cutting much.

I hit 70 grams of fat in just egg yolks, olive oil and pre workout peanut butter alone. Then again, I weigh quite a lot more than you I think.

[Twin]

5 foot 10 220. I train by PHAT. google layne norton phat. And i eat by science. Not 98% of the broscience that i see on these forums. I train and eat by science with what is proven and what is not.

I eat .35G of fat and 1 gram of protein per bodyweight and fill the rest with carbs. on a 200 calorie surplus. when cutting, 300 calorie surplus, same rules apply. carbs dont make you fat. excess calories do. carbs are protein sparing and more effient as an energy source and are more anabolic than fats.

22 years old...

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That is a ridiculous statement. What do you mean it doesn't matter what he does? 150 fat is way too much for who and for what goals? I'm on GH and all sorts of steroids. Did you notice the name of this forum? How much do you weigh? How old are you? How are you training and what kind of split? How do you partition carbs and fats and when do you train. These are all extremely important factors when determining macros. Ecto/Endo/Meso? One thing's for sure, if your cutting with 300 grams of carbs and your not Kai Greene your not cutting much.

I hit 70 grams of fat in just egg yolks, olive oil and pre workout peanut butter alone. Then again, I weigh quite a lot more than you I think.

on cycle, i recommend to up to 1.5grams per total bodyweight. if your very lean than maybe 1.7 grams.



and carbs after 6 pm dont make you fat either. and i dont understand how you can look fuller with lesser carbs when carbs are what fill your muscles up. proboably all the gear that your on that does this.

[Tron3219]

kai green is a genetic freak. doesnt matter what he does and on all sorts of steroids. 150 fat is way to much.

i personally wouldnt even cut with less than 300 carbs. let alone bulking...

THIS...

I cut with over 200g fat and less then 40g carbs