If you're unsure, GET IT TESTED!

[Stiffmeister]

Been a while since I've posted but over the last 6 months I've learned a valuable lesson, get your gear tested if you're unsure. Even reliable sources dry up or get greedy and cut their gear. Even my best friend who has been selling awesome tren to me through his source just sold me bunk gear. I knew it was as I didn't have any sides after a few days or have that tren "feeling" in my body that I always get. Even injecting the "150mg/ml" solution at a full ml per day (1050mg/week of tren) I felt NOTHING. No sides, sweats, irritability, vascularity, etc. He didn't even know and I gave him copy of the test results to show it to the asshole who screwed me. Needless to say, I don't think i'll be getting anymore bunk gear from the guy because it scared him and threatened to expose him for a fake.

[Rv8G30]

If your going to post a thread like this how about giving us some examples of where to get gear tested? And how much it costs? Thanks.

[Stiffmeister]

No need to be rude, the objective of this post was to remind people testing your gear can be a very valuable tool especially if you get your gear locally from a source in person who you can physically show the paperwork to and call him out, which may straighten them out because they know they can't sneak fake gear past you anymore. Use the search function or google man, there's a handful of good companies out there mate!

[Rv8G30]

There have been threads on this before but no one ever can come up with anything.

[austinite]

No need to be rude, the objective of this post was to remind people testing your gear can be a very valuable tool especially if you get your gear locally from a source in person who you can physically show the paperwork to and call him out, which may straighten them out because they know they can't sneak fake gear past you anymore. Use the search function or google man, there's a handful of good companies out there mate!

I'm not trying to be rude either, but there's not a handful of companies that do this. $100k+ mass spec machines aren't exactly readily available for this purpose unless you know someone willing to do it. Rare, very rare. In some cases you'll have to send your gear overseas. And unless the person checking your gear is madly in love with you, it's going to cost you far more than your gear did. This is common however, UGL gear is rarely, if ever, dosed properly.

I agree, if you're going to say "test your gear", tell us where you're getting it tested so long as it's not a source.

[Bonaparte]

No labs will do this for the public in the US.

[Rv8G30]

These are illegal substances. What lab is going to test without reporting you for having an illegal substance? And are labs even allowed to handle illegal substances without special permissions? Its just frustrating to see a post with no helpful tips. Post where you test, how and how much. Thanks.

[Matt]

When running a test cycle i find that wanting to hump everything that breaths every minute of the day means its good....

[austinite]

Blood work will validate your gear. And who cares about "teaching the source a lesson", seriously, who in their right mind would go back to someone who ripped them off to begin with.

[Stiffmeister]

I'm not trying to be rude either, but there's not a handful of companies that do this. $100k+ mass spec machines aren't exactly readily available for this purpose unless you know someone willing to do it. Rare, very rare. In some cases you'll have to send your gear overseas. And unless the person checking your gear is madly in love with you, it's going to cost you far more than your gear did. This is common however, UGL gear is rarely, if ever, dosed properly.

I agree, if you're going to say "test your gear", tell us where you're getting it tested so long as it's not a source.

Here you go, cost me $100 for a 5ml sample. Request a quote yourself and see San Rafael Chemical Services

[austinite]

^ Ralph quit the business moons ago. Not sure how you managed to get in there. But interesting...

[Stiffmeister]

Are you saying if someone locally sold you fake gear, you'd do absolutely nothing about it?

[Red Bastard]

I'm gonna be a little bit of a rude bastard here, and call BS on the OP...

Got a scan of these "test results"?

Edit: ok, so I see something was posted as I was reading and composing...

Cool. So, why does everyone else have such difficulty accessing such testing?

[austinite]

Are you saying if someone locally sold you fake gear, you'd do absolutely nothing about it?

Yes. Just like if I had poor service at a restaurant, I would never go back. I'm not 18 years old anymore. This industry comes with risk and I chose to take the risk. But because UGL's suck so much, I haven't used them in years and I will never use them. But who cares, lesson learned and you move on. What exactly do you want to do? Get in a fight? Prove them wrong? Even more risk. These guys are proud and easily offended. Not worth it.

[austinite]

I just saw that you're 23. I probably would have been just as heated as you when I was 23. You'll grow out of it.

[MajorPectorial]

Pah. Only cycle I ran ugl was my first. Was OK. But u can tell the difference.

Never again. I prefer to "know" what's goin in me. How much n how sterile.

[Stiffmeister]

I just saw that you're 23. I probably would have been just as heated as you when I was 23. You'll grow out of it.

Austinite, you're absolutely right and it's exactly why I didn't retaliate or start more conflict. It was more because it was a close friend who sold me bunk gear than anything else. If it was some random source from hundreds of miles away, I wouldn't bother bringing it up and just never go back to them, but it was a close friend. Needless to say, I won't be talking to him again for quite a while, as he still insists the gear is real. Lesson learned.

As a side note and for another thread, i'll be posting step by step revalor conversion instructions once I am finished brewing and calculate my yield and refine it so people on the board have an up to date process. Basically, it's a refined version of B A S S killers syno conversion as the process is near identical, but will include exact measurements of the compounds so those who don't have access to kits (or want to use their own "estro solubulizer" and other compounds) can do so.

[austinite]

Austinite, you're absolutely right and it's exactly why I didn't retaliate or start more conflict. It was more because it was a close friend who sold me bunk gear than anything else. If it was some random source from hundreds of miles away, I wouldn't bother bringing it up and just never go back to them, but it was a close friend. Needless to say, I won't be talking to him again for quite a while, as he still insists the gear is real.

A close friend? Yeah that would totally suck. Makes more sense now. Slap him around.

[Stiffmeister]

A close friend? Yeah that would totally suck. Makes more sense now. Slap him around.

It does suck. Not saying I trusted him completely, but he has been a friend since high school and regularly sold me good solid gear. Though my cue this time that tipped me off was how shady he acted. Normally he'd have it off hand and ready to sell in a day or two depending upon when I called him and always in 20ml vials. This time he took almost a week, didn't answer his phone half the time, and made excuses why he couldn't meet up and they were in 10ml vials. Luckily, I he only had one so it was all I bought.

[austinite]

It does suck. Not saying I trusted him completely, but he has been a friend since high school and regularly sold me good solid gear. Though my cue this time that tipped me off was how shady he acted. Normally he'd have it off hand and ready to sell in a day or two depending upon when I called him and always in 20ml vials. This time he took almost a week, didn't answer his phone half the time, and made excuses why he couldn't meet up and they were in 10ml vials. Luckily, I he only had one so it was all I bought.

This is partly why I gave up using UGL gear. Always something...

[Stiffmeister]

This is partly why I gave up using UGL gear. Always something...

I won't ever again - Besides, learning the Revalor conversion has been fun, though challenging. I'll be posting it up pretty soon in a week or so.