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    1st cycle advice

    Hi guys, been reading through the forum for a couple years and deciding whether or not I'm ready to cycle and decided that it's time to take the plunge.

    I was planning on running Test prop 150mg EOD for 8 weeks, Adex at .25 ED depending on the bloating and a PCT of Nolva at 40/20/20/20 starting 3 days after last jab.

    My stats are:

    Age: 25
    Weight: 180lbs
    Lifting experience: 3 years serious, but i started when i was 18 to get "Huge" as most guys do haha!

    My diet has been consistent for the last 2 months and believe it is best suited for a lean bulk with this cycle.

    Meal 1: 150g beef, 30g almonds and a banana
    Meal 2: 180g tuna, cup and a half of pasta, 30g spinach leaves
    Meal 3: 150g Chicken breast, 50g sweet potato, cup of broccoli
    Meal 4: 2 wholemeal wraps with turkey, chicken, olives, sun-dried tomato, spinach and cottage cheese
    Meal 5: 150g Beef, 50g sweet potatoe, cup of broccoli
    Meal 6: 250g cottage cheese, 30g almonds

    Didn't state the post WO shake which is 30g Protein and 50g carbs.

    My goal of this cycle is put on roughly 12-15lbs of lean muscle.. Would the dose of Prop be suffice with the diet to achieve this or is the dosage too high? I don't mind the frequent jabs and would rather prop over cyp and eth.

    Thanks for the feedback!

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    I wouldn't recommend prop for the 1st cycle. Pinning virgin muscles isn't all that fun. Go with a longer ester, enanthate or cypionate.
    But its your choice. 150mg is a pretty good dose for prop.
    Add clomid to your PCT 75/50/50/50
    And hCG 250iu x2 week, 3.5 days apart.

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    I would go with eth or cyp but id rather a shorter ester just to be safe..

    Add the clomid in with the Nolva? If i can't get my hands any would it be fine to bump the Nolva to 40/40/20/20

    Unfortunately my source doesn't have any hCG..

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    Ar-r red lion logo at the top of this page sells Clomid.
    Don't start your cycle without hCG and Clomid.
    Clomid is very important for your recovery, even more important than Nolva.
    Find another source for hCG.
    What do you mean by "shorter ester just to be safe?"

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    I'll look into it. With the clomid however, I've read a lot of debates on clomid vs Nolva and i found that it's all so conflicting.. Most places I've read stated that Clomid is "old school" and that Nolva is twice as good?

    I meant that if for some absurd reason my body can't handle it I can hop off and begin PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steffanuto View Post
    I'll look into it. With the clomid however, I've read a lot of debates on clomid vs Nolva and i found that it's all so conflicting.. Most places I've read stated that Clomid is "old school" and that Nolva is twice as good?

    I meant that if for some absurd reason my body can't handle it I can hop off and begin PCT
    Well, you've been misinformed. Clomid+Nolva is the best PCT combo.
    Your body already produces testosterone naturally, so its unlikely that you'll have any problems with it.

    Check out Austine's educational articles

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

    Cycling is more than just taking steroids, aromatize inhibitors and doing PCT. There's a lot more to it.

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    Thanks for that man, good read! I just order some clomid of Ar-r too.. So nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 75/50/50/50 good?

    Also, not sure if this is against the rules or not so ill ask first. If I posted the brand of the gear to get feedback on it, is that fine or not cool?

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    Yes good PCT above.
    And yes you can post the brand of your gear, just don't post anything about your source.
    You should be able to get more help here with that question Anabolic Steroids Picture Forum
    Last edited by DexterMorgan; 09-24-2013 at 12:37 AM.

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    I've read enanthate is a great first cycle idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaLkeN
    I've read enanthate is a great first cycle idea
    Doesnt matter what ester of test you use, TEST is TEST just with different weights of esters attached on it.

    Only difference is in pining scheduler and PCT timing.

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    Don't take your adex 'depending on bloating'. There are a lot of other negative effects from high e that aren't visibly evident. Take it regularly, 'bloated' or not.

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    This Dexter guy is pretty sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    This Dexter guy is pretty sharp.
    He's my Protege - Good head on his shoulders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    He's my Protege - Good head on his shoulders.
    Mini-aus?

    That's cool. I can't think of a better teacher. I hope you make a lot of money, dex. He'll have you building a spare room just to hold your supplements!

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