Cycle question

[stackedbro]

So this is going to be my first real cycle. Last time I had bunk gear. But I am 22 5'8 183 lbs. about 8-9% bf. been cutting, I touched 190 couple weeks ago. I have arimidex, clomid, and nolva. But was wondering if I should use test prop if I don't mind pinning eod, or if I should stick to the usual test e. I like the fact that I would be shut off for a shorter amount of time with the prop and will probably recover quicker. I don't want to hear anything about my age

[stackedbro]

I'm pretty much at my natural limit and it sucks to bust my ass and eat so strict to see minimal to no gains. I've been lifting for about 7-8 years. I would do 500 mg of test e a week but I wanna see your guyss thought on prob instead

[redz]

Pinning eod is a big commitment for a first cycle. Better to start off with 2 shots a week to see your comfort level.

[crazy mike]

I'm pretty much at my natural limit and it sucks to bust my ass and eat so strict to see minimal to no gains. I've been lifting for about 7-8 years. I would do 500 mg of test e a week but I wanna see your guyss thought on prob instead

[B]I would make sure my diet is on, you know that. You must have the calories. [/B]Test P 100 mg EOD wk 1-4
Test E 500mg / 2 Wk 1-12
...crazy mike

[stackedbro]

Pinning eod is a big commitment for a first cycle. Better to start off with 2 shots a week to see your comfort level.

I have already pinned with my first fake gear, and am comfortable injecting in quads and glutes. And I could just rotate them. Or do delts if The pip gets bad.

[stackedbro]

Pinning eod is a big commitment for a first cycle. Better to start off with 2 shots a week to see your comfort level.

Having my natural levels come back is more important than me putting extra time and effort pinning

[redz]

Having my natural levels come back is more important than me putting extra time and effort pinning

I honestly dont think you are being any safer running prop in that regard.

[stackedbro]

I would make sure my diet is on, you know that. You must have the calories.

Test P 100 mg EOD wk 1-4
Test E 500mg / 2 Wk 1-12
...crazy mike

Why only 4 weeks? It seems like majority people at least do 6 weeks-8 weeks. At 100 eod

[stackedbro]

I honestly dont think you are being any safer running prop in that regard.

Yea I suppose, supressing my endogenous test is supressing my endogenous test regardless of how

[redz]

Why only 4 weeks? It seems like majority people at least do 6 weeks-8 weeks. At 100 eod

I think he is sugesting the first 4 weeks using prop along side enanthate.

[austinite]

You don't really know that you're fully developed without X-rays. Even then, there's more development than just bones. Have you had your diet evaluated in the nutrition section?

[crazy mike]

I think he is sugesting the first 4 weeks using prop along side enanthate.

^^^ This, I laid out the Test E with the prop for wk 1-4. I thought that was clear. You base is Test E 12 wks your kicker is prop wk 1-4 ONLY. A cycle for you at 6-8 wks will do you no good. ...crazy mike

[stackedbro]

You don't really know that you're fully developed without X-rays. Even then, there's more development than just bones. Have you had your diet evaluated in the nutrition section?

I am fully developed I've been the same height for 6 years. Exactly, there's no doubt about that. I've had x-rays done 4 years ago backing it up. I have taken many nutrition courses and my nutrition is spot on. Which is why I have the size and leanness that I do naturally. I write meal plans for people at my supplement store, I know how to eat.

[stackedbro]

^^^ This, I laid out the Test E with the prop for wk 1-4. I thought that was clear. You base is Test E 12 wks your kicker is prop wk 1-4 ONLY. A cycle for you at 6-8 wks will do you no good. ...crazy mike

Ok that's interesting. That seems like a smart approach. Idk why more people don't kick start cycles like this to maximize gains on a cycle

[austinite]

I am fully developed I've been the same height for 6 years. Exactly, there's no doubt about that. I've had x-rays done 4 years ago backing it up. I have taken many nutrition courses and my nutrition is spot on. Which is why I have the size and leanness that I do naturally. I write meal plans for people at my supplement store, I know how to eat.

Well, I would expect you to mention that in your second post, about the x-rays... but you said "I'm pretty much at my natural limit", so that didn't sound so confident...

Either way.... like I said, bone development is not all you need to worry about.

Best of luck any way you go.

[stackedbro]

Well, I would expect you to mention that in your second post, about the x-rays... but you said "I'm pretty much at my natural limit", so that didn't sound so confident...

Either way.... like I said, bone development is not all you need to worry about.

Best of luck any way you go.

To be honest if I was going to reach my natural limit. I would have to quit school, quit my job, not socialize and make eating sleeping and working out my only priorities. So that's why I say pretty much. Yea bone development wasn't even a concern of mine. Thank you though.

[austinite]

Cool. No problem. You keep going back to bone, and I keep telling that bone is not everything that needs to be developed.

Leave it there...

[stackedbro]

Could I expect to keep the same bf during the cycle while gaining muscle? I know everyone reacts differently but I would like to stay single digit body fat. Maybe gains a percent or two. I know some water tension will be gained which will make me look more bloated