How to Jumpstart a cycle correctly?

[BrownBomber]

I have a bud who wants to jumpstart his cycle by using Sust. It looks like this......

Wks 1-2: Sustanon @ 500mg/wk (kickstart)
Wks 2-12: Test Enan @ 500mg/wk
Wks 1-12: EQ @ 400mg/wk
Wk 14: Nolva @ 40mg/ED, 50mg/ED
Wk 15: Nolva @ 30mg/ED, 25mg/ED
Wk 16: Nolva @ 20mg/ED


I told that him Sust was a poor choice to jumpstart a cycle and that Prop should be used in its place. How would he run a proper jumpstart? Im not sure on how much he prop or ethanate he should be using for a jumpstart and how long he should be over lapping the two.

Any help is much appreciated?
BB

[bigsd67]

well he can run the enan starting week one and then inject the prop. at 50 mgs per day...for the first two weeks. and you are right. sust takes 3-4 weeks to kick in.

[TheMudMan]

Tell him to use d-bol weeks 1 - 4 30 to 40mg ED depending on his weight............... or use prop weeks 1 - 4 100mg EOD

That is a bad lay out for a cycle

This is better:

Weeks 1 - 4 Dbol or Prop
Weeks 1 - 13 Enan 500mg
Weeks 1 - 12 EQ 400mg
Weeks 1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED
Start PCT 3 weeks after last EQ inj.

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 11 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 12 - 21 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva

[D3m3nt3d]

alot of people frontload longer lasting test esters, but I would go for either the prop or something like d-bol for a jump start.

[bigsd67]

go with mud man...that's a solid cycle outline.

[motoxxxguy]

There is not enough prop in the sust for it to be used as a jumpstart, but I can see what he may be thinking. tell him to go with the prop, and run it like the others said.

-moto

[somedude247]

d-bol is the perfect jumpstart for a cycle....cheap too

[FullBlown]

"Tell him to use d-bol weeks 1 - 4 30 to 40mg ED depending on his weight............... or use prop weeks 1 - 4 100mg EOD" - Mudman

Hey mudman, how would one go about judgin that?? Just a question I've never had answered before...

Thanks

[BDTR]

whatya mean judging that?

[mass junkie]

I thought pct was two weeks after last injection with enanthate....

[TheMudMan]

I thought pct was two weeks after last injection with enanthate....

He's running EQ in the cycle............ EQ has a longer half-life (3 weeks)than Enan so he has to wait for the longest acting ester to clear before starting PCT.

[TheMudMan]

"Tell him to use d-bol weeks 1 - 4 30 to 40mg ED depending on his weight............... or use prop weeks 1 - 4 100mg EOD" - Mudman

Hey mudman, how would one go about judgin that?? Just a question I've never had answered before...

Thanks

Someone that weighs 180lbs could use around 30mg of D-Bol and feel it's effects where someone that weighs over 250lbs would feel nothing at the dose.

Is that what you were asking

[mass junkie]

He's running EQ in the cycle............ EQ has a longer half-life (3 weeks)than Enan so he has to wait for the longest acting ester to clear before starting PCT.

Im still learning...

[TheMudMan]

Im still learning...

We all are bro

[FullBlown]

Mudman,

Yes thats exactly what I was wondering, sorry for the confusion of the question, and thanks a lot man