A day that will live in infamy!

[Lunk1]

2402..never forget!!!!

[lovbyts]

Ngc?

[Lunk1]

Ngc?

huh??

[capetown]

2402..never forget!!!!

Service number?

[Lunk1]

Service number?

2402 American lives lost at Pearl Harbor.

[capetown]

IC. I knew it was Roosevelt and PH but couldn't figure the number out.

[lovbyts]

Gotcha. December 7, 1941, USS Arizona, USS California.

[Igifuno]

Pearl Harbor.. 72 years ago today.

[Black]

The more upsetting thing is the fact the US government purposefully antagonized Japan to attack in hopes of gaining more support for joining the war. Sad.

[Lunk1]

The more upsetting thing is the fact the US government purposefully antagonized Japan to attack in hopes of gaining more support for joining the war. Sad.

Explain please?

[1tuffmudder]

The more upsetting thing is the fact the US government purposefully antagonized Japan to attack in hopes of gaining more support for joining the war. Sad.

Not completely Japan was invading parts of China, Manchuria specifically, the US cut off the much needed oil supply to Japan. So you could say that it was provoked. The way I understand it though is mainly because of Japan invading provinces in China.

[AD]

2402 American lives lost at Pearl Harbor.

is that how you guys remember it? by the number of casualties and not the date? so 9-11 is actually remembered as 3000...something? (i can't remember the number)

[Lunk1]

is that how you guys remember it? by the number of casualties and not the date? so 9-11 is actually remembered as 3000...something? (i can't remember the number)

No. I made the post on the 12/7 and quoted part of the famous speech. I also pointed out the number of lives lost in the tragic event to serve as a remembrance.

[Metalject]

The more upsetting thing is the fact the US government purposefully antagonized Japan to attack in hopes of gaining more support for joining the war. Sad.

Are you really Charlie Sheen?

[Euroholic]

Also on the same day on the otherside of the dateline 8/12/1941 the japs attacked malaya, philippines and hong kong

[Euroholic]

And lunk ive watched enough history channel i think your quote is wrong. Im pretty sure its "date" not day

[Black]

Explain please?

US cut off trading and importing into Japan.

I don't remember the exact numbers, but the majority of the US citizens were against the US joining the war and were not giving the government any support.

After Pearl Harbor, it was something like 80%+ of the US population was for the war and something like one million men signed up for the military.

[Black]

Are you really Charlie Sheen?

I don't get it. Does Charlie Sheen believe our government doesn't care about the well-being of the US citizens and used them as pawns in their ways to make money and get what they want?

[Lunk1]

US cut off trading and importing into Japan.

I don't remember the exact numbers, but the majority of the US citizens were against the US joining the war and were not giving the government any support.

After Pearl Harbor, it was something like 80%+ of the US population was for the war and something like one million men signed up for the military.

I'm not sure imposing trade sanctions justifies an unprovoked attack like the one at Pearl Harbor. Do you?

[Lunk1]

And lunk ive watched enough history channel i think your quote is wrong. Im pretty sure its "date" not day

You are correct. Good catch.

[DAAS]

pearl harbor.. 72 years ago today.

damn! 72 years!!

[DAAS]

US cut off trading and importing into Japan.

I don't remember the exact numbers, but the majority of the US citizens were against the US joining the war and were not giving the government any support.

After Pearl Harbor, it was something like 80%+ of the US population was for the war and something like one million men signed up for the military.

Pretty sure all (most)wars are started to make money. When the people don't support it stuff like that happens. I am not educated enough on the subject to make a clear decision on which side of the fence I am on.

[Pooks]

Pretty sure all (most)wars are started to make money. When the people don't support it stuff like that happens. I am not educated enough on the subject to make a clear decision on which side of the fence I am on.

Japan knew USA was going to the join the war sooner or later.. and Japan needed to attack Dutch Indonesia/Malaysia area, to get Iron.. and the USA philipines were in the way.

The British empire at this point was way beyond bankrupt.. so the land-lease deal the US had with the UK, sucked all the cash out of the UK it was going to suck out of them.. so at that point it was ok for the United States to join the war.. cause the British were no longer a threat, for post-war global economy stuff.. After that the British Empire collapsed, and the USA took over.

[Metalject]

I don't get it. Does Charlie Sheen believe our government doesn't care about the well-being of the US citizens and used them as pawns in their ways to make money and get what they want?

Charlie Sheen asked president Obama to investigate 9/11 to see if the the president Bush has willfully antagonized Al Qaeda to attack.

[Euroholic]

Everything is all hear say who knows what would have happend.

All we no is this:

https://m.facebook.com/pages/Austral...586601225&_rdr




Upon being asked why he was being pushed back by a "Commonwealth" division at El Alamein, Rommel replied,
"It is not a Commonwealth division, it is an Australian Division, give me 2 Australian Divisions and i will conquer the world for you!"

[Black]

I'm not sure imposing trade sanctions justifies an unprovoked attack like the one at Pearl Harbor. Do you?

Who knows brother. I'm just regurgitating stuff I've seen on documentaries. There was a lot more to it, I just can't remember.

[Black]

Charlie Sheen asked president Obama to investigate 9/11 to see if the the president Bush has willfully antagonized Al Qaeda to attack.

Hahahahaha, he's such a nut.

[Metalject]

Hahahahaha, he's such a nut.

He's crazy that's for sure. But what's really nuts is half of his peers (if not more) more than likely believe the same thing all while preaching environmentalism while owning 14 jets and 82 homes. Hollywood truly disgust me.

I also like how the Hollywood clan also has enormous respect for Obama. I remember seeing on the news someone asking George Clooney a question and they said Obama but not President Obama. Clooney corrected the man and said "President Obama" and the guy said "Yeah, Obama" and Clooney became irritated. Again, their hypocrisy and lunacy is disgusting.

[Metalject]

Lunk, sorry for messing your thread up. My grandfather spent the brut of the war in the south pacific and did some island hopping along the way. He was a mechanic aboard a Destroyer and was also one of the few who would escort officers when they took the small transport boat to shore. Some of the stories he's told are tremendous and honestly hard to fathom.

Other than the stories, my grandfather has a picture of him and his best friend sitting on a dock a few days after the war ended in Japan. Both of them are shirtless, looks like they weigh maybe 130lbs each and have huge beards. He said things had gotten so bad for them at one point that the officers took away all their razors for shaving because some of the men were slitting their own throats. And food, they had almost nothing for a very long time (can't remember how long.)

Anyway, my grandfather turned 90 a couple months ago. He had 5 brothers, 4 served in the war including him and all of them lived, all 5. Two fought at Normandy. He's the only one still alive, he was the youngest. He's never talked about the war much. I used to ask him questions when I was a kid and he'd talk to me about it when we were alone but that's it. Now, the last year or so, he's become very weak and frail and his mind is slipping a bit but the war is one of the only things he talks about and he talks about it a lot. It's strange, he talks about that and his life on the farm before the war in vivid detail. By strange I mean it's strange how things have gone full circle for him in his mind. I know he's my grandfather so I'm a bit biased but he is one of the greatest men I've ever known. Everything a man is supposed to be and what so few are anymore.

[Lunk1]

Lunk, sorry for messing your thread up. My grandfather spent the brut of the war in the south pacific and did some island hopping along the way. He was a mechanic aboard a Destroyer and was also one of the few who would escort officers when they took the small transport boat to shore. Some of the stories he's told are tremendous and honestly hard to fathom.

Other than the stories, my grandfather has a picture of him and his best friend sitting on a dock a few days after the war ended in Japan. Both of them are shirtless, looks like they weigh maybe 130lbs each and have huge beards. He said things had gotten so bad for them at one point that the officers took away all their razors for shaving because some of the men were slitting their own throats. And food, they had almost nothing for a very long time (can't remember how long.)

Anyway, my grandfather turned 90 a couple months ago. He had 5 brothers, 4 served in the war including him and all of them lived, all 5. Two fought at Normandy. He's the only one still alive, he was the youngest. He's never talked about the war much. I used to ask him questions when I was a kid and he'd talk to me about it when we were alone but that's it. Now, the last year or so, he's become very weak and frail and his mind is slipping a bit but the war is one of the only things he talks about and he talks about it a lot.

My family has a long history of serving as well. You have much to be proud of. You are very fortunate to get to be close to such a hero. Please pass along my respect. Not everyone can fathom the pride that comes from serving.

[Euroholic]

My family has a long history of serving as well. You have much to be proud of. You are very fortunate to get to be close to such a hero. Please pass along my respect. Not everyone can fathom the pride that comes from serving.

Same all the way from franco prussian war1870
Agreed mate i did 2 deployments and i felt like the cooliest dude alive. Always held my head up high. You have become a part of a tradition, a legacy and you dont wont to let your mates down. You dont do it for your country or your family or friends you do it for the guys next to ya.