First Cycle. Laying out the plan with what i've got.

[C3RB3RUS]

“DECA 250” 250MG/ML. 10ML = 2,500MG

“TREN-A 100”= 100MG/ML. 10ML= 1,000MG

[Unlabeled] I’m assuming it’s another “TREN-A 100”= 100MG/ML. 10ML= 1,000MG

“TEST 250” [test E is what I requested] 250MG/ML 10ML = 2,500MG

“TEST 250” [test E is what I requested] 250MG/ML 10ML = 2,500MG

“TEST 250” [test E is what I requested] 250MG/ML 10ML = 2,500MG

In total I’ve got 7,500MG of Test product, 2,000MG of TREN-A, and 2,500MG OF DECA.



I’ve got 12.5 weeks of deca, at 200mg/week, or 10 weeks of deca at 250mg/week

I’ve got 8 weeks of tren, at 250mg/week

I’ve got 15 weeks of test sus 250 at 500mg/week

If I do my 1st cycle I could do 500mg/week test sus 250 + 200mg/week deca 250. If I stop my first cycle of test/deca at 12.5 weeks, I’ll have 1,250mg of test Sus left.

At 150mg/wk the rest of the test sus should last me 8.3 weeks, so I can use the rest for a tren/test cycle dosing at 250mg tren/week + 150mg test sus/week.

I plan on ordering PCT things soon and I’ll have all I need for PCT before I begin a cycle. I’m also going to throw in prami and a suicide AI during the cycle.

so there is no actual plan to follow just yet. i still have to figure out doses of gear. access to more isn't an issue. i could also kick my cycles off with D-bol/ultradrol; i'm probably going to kick my cycles off with d-bol/ultradrol

as for PCT and sides, i'm ordering Prami, nolvadex, clomid, and aromastane

i'm currently running ghrp-2 and cjc 1295 for health benefits 250mcg ghrp-2 + 100mcg cjc 1295, once before bed every night.

[Black]

I wouldn't run tren your first cycle.

Nor deca btw, just because you should see how you respond to anabolics your first run. With using one compound you know what's doing what.

And I wouldn't touch an unlabeled vial. Gutsy.

[king6 II]

^^
Agreed, tren has some pretty harsh sides, would recommend waiting for a later cycle to use tren.

[kelkel]

Test only. Read Austinites "Successful First Cycle" sticky thread and follow it. What your planning is not prudent for a first cycle. Test only with proper nutrition and training will do wonders.

[C3RB3RUS]

Gutsy.

lol ROFL. yes, it is gutsy

oh i'm not going to run tren on my first cycle, but i was considering Deca/test with some D-bol thrown in as a kicker for my first.

Are injectable sides anything like the sides associated with pro-hormones? I've done a few cycles of Superdrol, and M-drol. those sides sucked; i mostly got lethargic, lost my appetite, and had a hard time sleeping. oh yea, and the night sweats...

i know that pro-hormones are very hard on the liver, so can i assume much of the sides associated with them come from that?

last June i did 120g (i'm not exactly sure what it was) d-bol + 15g ultradrol (a superdrol derivative) daily for a month. it was über-fun.

anyways, i'm not starting anything until i get my PCT junk.

maybe i'll just run test, less complicated. eeeverybody is saying to use test on a first run. i'm really just paranoid that i might loose my "flow-line-connection" [yea i just made up a compound word]

I've been slamming the GHRP/GHRH nightly for the past week, or a little longer. i tried injecting into my calve a few nights ago, "holy! ****ing shit. I Don't Think So"

besides changing needles any tips on exact spots for injection, so as to make things less uncomfortable? i've been thinking the bicep wouldn't be horrible. so far, I've done my chest and delts for intramuscular using slin needles

[Java Man]

I wouldn't run tren your first cycle.

Nor deca btw, just because you should see how you respond to anabolics your first run. With using one compound you know what's doing what.

And I wouldn't touch an unlabeled vial. Gutsy.

I would use a different word, not trying to be a dick here joe but that's downright stupid. That's all I'm going to say about the unlabeled vial. Youre not a child.

On to your cycle plans.
No tren yet. Unless you have run it before I would run it only with a trt dose of test to see how you respond. Stacking tren right now for you is unnecessary and unwise. It is harsh for most and please get bloodwork done to monitor lipids. Watch your bp and liver function.

Don't run tren and deca together. People do it, sure but they have way more experience and know what each compound does in their particular bodies(ideally).

I dont run deca at less than 600mg/wk. It's a waste at 250. Your joints might feel better but that's about it.

You don't have enough deca or tren to do anything with yet.

Imo the only thing you have enough of is test right now. I'd just run 500mg/wk test for 12 weeks if I were you. Stock up on the tren and deca and use them when you have enough and more cycles under your belt. 500mg/wk of test is a great first cycle for anybody.

[C3RB3RUS]

cool, thanks. i'll do that then. (my pockets are hurting enough for the moment.) and i'll get the information about the unlabeled vial from my person.

i see your point with the deca, not being able to do anything with it. honestly i was interested in the joint soothing properties, but i have no joint issues to speak of and the idea of using it for gains sounds so much better.

in a post here: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-thread.html the OP talks about running tren at 250mg/week, is that incorrect for lean mass gain?

Thanks very much all!

[Java Man]

Re: tren @250/wk
yes that is enough, just. I just think you don't need it yet.

[C3RB3RUS]

yea, i don't.

i'm definitely going to get more Deca, tren and test.
fvck i'm so paranoid about not having access to more after i move... grrrrr FML!

By the way, i'm moving. how the hell do i move this stuff? With 6 vials now and the prospect of aquiring more, i'm becoming very concerned with the issue.
i could probably get rid of one or 2 before i leave.

[marcus300]

Test only for first cycle.

Tren is for the advance you shouldn't consider this drug for a long time.

Srats?

Using more compounds on your first cyvle doesn't mean bigger or better gains. Test only is plenty

[lovbyts]

As long as you dont have to transport anything via airplane just pack it up.

[C3RB3RUS]

i have no choice but to transport them via airplane.

i'm not going to use anything but test. i don't plan on making this a one time thing, so i can wait to do other compounds. yea, i should really stop caring about more. what i have is fine, plenty of test. i'll shelf the rest.

[marcus300]

Stats
How long you been training

[Java Man]

He used to have a pic of himself in his av. Actually looks pretty good. Lean, descent size. No aas experience. 1st timer.

[Java Man]

i have no choice but to transport them via airplane.

i'm not going to use anything but test. i don't plan on making this a one time thing, so i can wait to do other compounds. yea, i should really stop caring about more. what i have is fine, plenty of test. i'll shelf the rest.

Good call.

Have a trusted friend mail your gear to your new address after you arrive.
Do not take gear on a plane. Instant felony and jail time if you get caught. Odds are that you would get caught. You'll get a drug smuggling charge.

[almostgone]

Good call.

Have a trusted friend mail your gear to your new address after you arrive.
Do not take gear on a plane. Instant felony and jail time if you get caught. Odds are that you would get caught. You'll get a drug smuggling charge.

..or a someone you trust at the new location setup a personal mailbox. They are available through several companies. I'll let you figure out the rest.

[almostgone]

...and as Marcus, Kelkel, and others pointed out, test only is an optimal first cycle. I wouldn't add the 19 nors until later cycles. Get familiar with your system's reaction to testosterone before throwing the virtual kitchen sink at it.

[C3RB3RUS]

Good call.

Have a trusted friend mail your gear to your new address after you arrive.
Do not take gear on a plane. Instant felony and jail time if you get caught. Odds are that you would get caught. You'll get a drug smuggling charge.

..or a someone you trust at the new location setup a personal mailbox. They are available through several companies. I'll let you figure out the rest.

i like these ideas because i can instantly think of a way to accomplish either.

what about an interrupted cycle? do i have to wait until after i move? I've got more than 12 weeks until i have to fly. i would be missing 3 weeks, or at the very least, be without gear for a week, or less. after a one week interruption i would be able to continue

[Java Man]

I'd wait since you already know these time frames. sometimes things happen that interrupt a cycle but I wouldn't do it intentionally. What's the hurry?

[C3RB3RUS]

well actually, as of today, i have 14.8 weeks and I only have 15 weeks of test. i could start PCT around that time. however, during the cycle, i wouldn't be able to really focus as i would like too.

my parents are visiting me in march, i have a physical fitness test sometime between april and may, i'll need to pack all my shit for the move, and i have to consider visiting my family in April... now that I've thought it over, i should wait and i will. i don't want to but i will.

i really didn't consider how long a cycle actually takes

[Java Man]

Yeah. With pct it is 4+ months. We talk about it in weeks for some reason but it's months. Weeks makes it sound shorter if you don't really think about it. I get what youre saying. The last cycle I did reminded me of just how long it is. I remember looking at the calendar when I was getting near pct time. I had marked each injection day with an x. I couldn't believe it had been 3 months when I looked at the first one.

[C3RB3RUS]

yes PCT. Time on = PCT time. that's a long time! 8months...

how am i going to keep my balls from turning into peanuts? my last cycle was only a month and i was able to keep my testies plump by taking some male libido stuff that was OTC as well as nolvadex+clomid. it was probably the nolvadex and clomid. all i remember is that my nuts stayed nice and big during my last cycle; i don't remember exactly what i did to make this happen.

during my first cycle of pro-hormones my balls got pretty small. i never want to experience that ever again. ever

[Black]

This is one of MANY reasons why I exclusively use short ester anabolics now.

[Bio-Active]

yes PCT. Time on = PCT time. that's a long time! 8months...

how am i going to keep my balls from turning into peanuts? my last cycle was only a month and i was able to keep my testies plump by taking some male libido stuff that was OTC as well as nolvadex+clomid. it was probably the nolvadex and clomid. all i remember is that my nuts stayed nice and big during my last cycle; i don't remember exactly what i did to make this happen.

during my first cycle of pro-hormones my balls got pretty small. i never want to experience that ever again. ever

I really would question theat any over the counter product or serms are going to maintain testicular function during the administration of exogenous testosterone. HCg would be how you can mantain testicular function during your cycle. If you only ran a 1 month cycle you probably were not shut down long enough to notice any atrophie

[Java Man]

yes PCT. Time on = PCT time. that's a long time! 8months...

how am i going to keep my balls from turning into peanuts? my last cycle was only a month and i was able to keep my testies plump by taking some male libido stuff that was OTC as well as nolvadex+clomid. it was probably the nolvadex and clomid. all i remember is that my nuts stayed nice and big during my last cycle; i don't remember exactly what i did to make this happen.

during my first cycle of pro-hormones my balls got pretty small. i never want to experience that ever again. ever

Time on = pct time is incorrect. Pct is generally 4-6 weeks. I think youre confusing time on + pct time = time off.

HCG during your cycle will keep your nads functioning and pct will be much smoother. As jim mentioned.

[C3RB3RUS]

so i no shit need HCG to do a cycle like this? Clomid and nolvadex in combination won't work at all/whatsoever/if i try this i'm fvcked?