Can you keep growing with "time on = time off" need to clear things up.

[proteinshake1992]

I did a lot of research on cycling for the past year. But one of the things that remains confusing and unknown to me is te following:

When you start cycling according to the principle "time on = time off" can u keep gaining? (Keep in mind: Without upping the dosages cycled !) Or do you fall back to your old before cycle status? And assuming your diet and training are 100%

I really hope your answers clear things up for me. Thanks a lot!

[Metalject]

I did a lot of research on cycling for the past year. But one of the things that remains confusing and unknown to me is te following:

When you start cycling according to the principle "time on = time off" can u keep gaining? (Keep in mind: Without upping the dosages cycled !) Or do you fall back to your old before cycle status? And assuming your diet and training are 100%

I really hope your answers clear things up for me. Thanks a lot!

You will always reach a point where in order to continue to grow (naturally) you will gain more body fat. Where this point is will be different for everyone. Now with or without steroids, some body fat is going to come, but one of the benefits of gear is you're able to grow more with less body fat gain, and often the more gear the better you can do...granted, more gear also means more risk, but the level of risk you take is something you'll have to determine.

Another important factor, when you grow to a certain point it takes a certain level of calories to support it. When you grow with gear, passed what you could ever do naturally, it takes that gear to support it and maintain it. Take away the gear and the support system is gone. Sure, you can up your calories and protect a good bit of it when you come off but body fat will go up and unless you want it to really go up you'll have to sacrifice some of the muscle.

For a competitor, off cycle muscle loss isn't the end of the world. It's not all that difficult to get it back. A HUGE mistake a lot of guys make is trying to protect it when they're off gear and gain way too much body fat making a future diet all the more difficult.

Here's a common practice - I'm not saying this is without risk or something you should do but it's very common. For a competitor, rarely will he come off gear between an off-season cycle and contest cycle. He may have a period of lower doses in-between and maybe not depending on what his calendar looks like. When he does come off, it'll be once he's done competing for the year. Take for example professional bodybuilders - it's very common for them to come off all gear after the Olympia for 2-3 months. Some may continue running TRT levels of testosterone and maybe low dose HGH depending on the guy but by Dec. or Jan. most are back on full blown.

Last point, in competitive bodybuilding, those who do it for a living or who live like they do it for a living, there's no such thing as time on = time off. There's just gear use and little breaks when they fit into your schedule. Sure, there are exceptions - there are plenty of recreational competitors who follow time on = time off and enjoy a show here and there and that's it. Those guys probably have fuller lives than the hardcore competitor but to each his own.

[proteinshake1992]

Very clear story thanks!

Regarding those competitors who up there drugs prior to contest to get in contest shape. Is it likely that they are on during the contest?

Next thingh might be a little off topic but its better to ask here than start a new thread.

As I want to compete in the future as men physique competitor I would really like to max out my genetics as natural as fast as possible. (my first show is the end of this year)
Is it possible to upload photos to share my progress with the community members without the rest of the world, lol? Like a private place to place photo's and get feedback?.

[Metalject]

Yes, they're on during the contest. If you're a competitor, gear use during your contest prep is far more important than in the off-season. I've always said if you're only going to use gear in the off-season or during contest prep, if you're only going to pick one phase, you should pick contest prep...the other way around makes no sense. As far as the day of the show, there are those that stop all gear use a few days or weeks before their show, but this is usually due to bad information. You may or may not decrease your testosterone dose depending on how you look but things like Tren, Winny, Anavar, Masteron, etc. there is no reason to drop those....in fact, dropping them would be doing yourself a disservice.

You can send pics to people using the private message system.

[proteinshake1992]

I see it sounds very logic also, but does being on during a contest prep doesn't make things a lot more dangerous for your health? Especially drying out before contest with al chems in your system?

Another thing, my "coach" who's a few years older then me (25yrs he) doesn't want to discus anything drug related with me. Something that drives me nuts because I want to plan those things with someone who's been there. Also he always gives me some awkward face when I remember him of the fact that I'm natural, like he doesn't believe me.
So to make a long story short I'm not sure if he's the right coach because he might think I use aas and he makes a prepping plan with that in mind.
Looking for another coach simply isn't an option because he's by far the one with most expierence that I can get at this moment. Not to mention he placed really well in all of his shows.

Further, is drying out a neseccary thing for a beginners level phisique competition? If i have to believe my coach, bodybuilding and mens physique are not different in there pre contest preps.

[Metalject]

I'm not sure I fully understand your questions.

[proteinshake1992]

Oke I'll try to be more specific.
I have 2 problems.

One is I have a coach but he's not going to tell me when I should start AAS or how to use them. He does not want to talk with me about AAS (probably because when he would I would assume he is on them and that's somethingh he doesn't want for several reason). So apart from researching AAS for the past 2 years on the internet, and past 1 year on this forum, I don't have a person in real life who's gonna share his knowledge with me. Something that is pretty important to me since I'm very serious about my sport and future. So any tips on this?

Second problem is, am I better of preppin my contest alone then with my coach? I don't know about this since he may think I already use AAS while I don't. And the pre contest diet that he will make for me is maybe based on someone who uses AAS.

[Metalject]

You need to find someone who is willing to help you with your gear use. That's a major part of prep and if he's not willing to help, then he's probably not the right guy for you. And it is better to have a second set of eyes than going at it alone. Sure, you can go at it alone and do well, plenty of people do. But it always works better with a good eye to help you.

[bodybuilder88]

Agree with above, what to use, when to use what, timing, type and when to switch d rugs is such an important part of prep you need someone that pretty much knows gear inside an out to help guide you. And that second set of eye is critical. You may feel you are ready for the stage and start to coast in, while your coach will see you still have about 2-3 more lbs to go and won't let you coast in.