Bulldog Test C under dosed

[Wizwell]

Just an FYI to members. I got my blood work back. It was week 7 of running Bulldog Labs Test C, 250mg every three days. I am on TRT normally and dropped my androgel protocol when I started my cycle. Test serum levels came back just under 300. That's lower numbers than I get from androgel alone. Anyone considering this UGL should think again. Hopefully, this post will keep someone else from being scammed.

[austinite]

That's the first time I ever hear this. BD's gear is legit in my experience. And those results wouldn't just be underdosed, that would be more like oil only, damn near zero test.

Really kind of mind boggled to hear this. But I'll be looking into it further. Hopefully it's the super rare occasion of mislabeled product.

Have you contacted him? He'll make it right.

[BG]

Can you post up your lab results?

[Wizwell]

First Austinite,
I respect your knowledge and willingness to help us immensely. I saw a lot of positive reviews on this source. I did contact him. He had no problems replying and he certainly defended his gear. I expected to hear that occasional under dosed batches slip through. I didn't even ask him for anything. ( other than an explanation ) I made no attempt to acquire free gear. He suggested I look for another source. He also said, and I quote, "I've learned you can't make everyone happy." It was really disappointing. There's a bit more to the story. I will PM you the details. Thanks for any attempt to look into it.
Wiz.

[Wizwell]

BG, here is my bloodwork six weeks after starting my cycle. I was administering 250mg every three days. As you can see, I also crashed my estrogen levels as I was taking .25mg adex every other day with the bunk gear.
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 4.4 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL DV
RBC 5.15 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL DV
Hemoglobin 14.5 12.6-17.7 g/dL DV
Hematocrit 43.5 37.5-51.0 % DV
MCV 85 79-97 fL DV
MCH 28.2 26.6-33.0 pg DV
MCHC 33.3 31.5-35.7 g/dL DV
RDW 14.7 12.3-15.4 % DV
Platelets 249 155-379 x10E3/uL DV
Neutrophils 45 40-74 % DV
Lymphs 40 14-46 % DV
Monocytes 9 4-12 % DV
Eos 5 0-5 % DV
Basos 1 0-3 % DV
Neutrophils (Absolute) 2.0 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL DV
Lymphs (Absolute) 1.7 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL DV
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL DV
Eos (Absolute) 0.2 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL DV
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL DV
Immature Granulocytes 0 0-2 % DV
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL DV
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 85 65-99 mg/dL DV
BUN 27 HIGH 6-24 mg/dL DV
Creatinine, Serum 1.21 0.76-1.27 mg/dL DV
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 67 >59 mL/min/1.73 DV
eGFR If Africn Am 78 >59 mL/min/1.73 DV
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 22 HIGH 9-20 DV
Sodium, Serum 136 134-144 mmol/L DV
Potassium, Serum 4.2 3.5-5.2 mmol/L DV
Chloride, Serum 100 97-108 mmol/L DV
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 19-28 mmol/L DV
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2 mg/dL DV
Protein, Total, Serum 6.9 6.0-8.5 g/dL DV
Albumin, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.5 g/dL DV
Globulin, Total 2.6 1.5-4.5 g/dL DV
A/G Ratio 1.7 1.1-2.5 DV
Bilirubin, Total 0.3 0.0-1.2 mg/dL DV
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 60 39-117 IU/L DV
AST (SGOT) 24 0-40 IU/L DV
ALT (SGPT) 20 0-44 IU/L DV
Hepatic Function Panel (7)
Bilirubin, Direct 0.08 0.00-0.40 mg/dL DV
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 292 LOW 348-1197 ng/dL DV
Comment: Comment DV
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL DV
1 of 2
FSH, Serum
FSH 0.6 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL DV
Estradiol
Estradiol <6.0 LOW 7.6-42.6 pg/mL DV
Roche ECLIA methodology
Estradiol, Sensitive
Estradiol, Sensitive <3 LOW 3-70 pg/mL BN

[austinite]

thanks for the follow up wiz. You're certainly shut down, but that's not testosterone. Did you notice anything at all? No strength gains, no gains?

Looking forward to your PM.

[Wizwell]

I was dieting during this cycle. My strength was dropping. However, I figured this was due to the dieting and weight loss. By six weeks, I had lost enough mass I suspected it to be under dosed. I didn't imagine my numbers would be that low though. I should have easily gotten the >1500 test serum level.

[austinite]

Got your PM, thanks. I'll keep you posted.

[BG]

Yes thanks for posting up your info. It does suck when you dont get a good reply, but theres not much they can say. Im going to pm you also.

[Buster Brown]

Sorry to hear you have had a bad experience with BD's gear. I am currently and have in the past used his gear with great success. There is nothing worse then losing time and having a bad cycle. If you contact BD, I am sure he will want to know and get it straightened out for you.

[Far from massive]

If it were me I would assume that someone (the middleman) had somehow scammed my gears name, and I would make the offer to make it right. It amazes me that anyone who sells would not just ask how many vials did you buy and as long as it was not some huge amount, simply replace it.

I mean if it were Tren or something else expensive that would be different. But TestC at a suppliers cost of a couple of dollars a bottle why not just send it out and keep the customer happy?

When I first started at my current job I had supplied my boss with 5 bottles of TP and he had injected and gotten a huge red welt on his leg. I knew my gear was clean (as I made it) but still took another batch and filtered and reautoclaved it. And supplied it to him at no cost, he injected again and had the same reaction...lots of pain in the thigh, redness and swelling. Well he already had some TP from another supplier and I suggested he try it and see what happened. He injected it and it was twice as bad as mine...he wound up going to the doctor etc.

Found out he had never injected in the quads before and was pumping 2.5 mls of TP probably fast and cold too boot LOL.

The moral of the story is that for an hours labor refiltering and autoclaving and about 15 dollars worth of bottles, caps, filters etc. I was able to gain his absolute trust and have a client for life ( as well as job security LOL)

Just my 2 cents on the deal.

PS I don't know anything about Bulldog gear but both your respondents are very well versed and I would think that the gear as bottled by the supplier was either mislabeled or had been tampered with by a middleman as any decent supplier would not sell bunk Test C as the bottle, oil, BB, BA, stopper, crimp, etc cost me twice as much as the Test C and I am just a little guy brewing for home use.

[Wizwell]

No middleman. This was straight from the one supplier selling Bulldog. That's all I can say as forum rules prohibit source talk. Apparently he didn't like hearing his gear was under dosed. No attempt was made to make it right. I've said my piece. Caveat Emptor if you're thinking of trying Bulldog Lab gear.