Okay your older and not a pup like most of people I have seen today. So what are your stats and cycle history? What did you blood work show for your test and E2? Are you a TRT pt?

Clen and T3 are a good tool. I am one of the few people that think that dnp is a good tool SOME of the time. DNP can kill you. Its summer time so I would say NOPE on that. To easy to hurt yourself when its hot outside. If you are not really careful you will end up in the hospital. You need to really research DNP and when you think you really know about DNP, read everything again.

Second, Clen / T3 / Keto work great if your diet is in check. ECA also works for some. I dont like ECA but its a personal thing. I would suggest you hit up the DIET AND NUTRITION and talk to them about your diet. Ask Times Roman for his great diet calculator program.

What is your planned cycle?