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    Completely incorrect.

    I have defended this point many times and will only say this.

    Your CNS is the biggest hurdle to pressing weight. I cannot and will not speak for people 5'5-5'9 that try to press 400 lbs+. Going to 2x your weight and beyond crosses into a different type of training territory called maxing and recovering... Tiny M (World Record Holder on the Bench) details this quite trnsparently on youtube and many articles he has interviewed for. That is how it is done at the truly higher weights.

    High reps are such a waste to Powerlifters that they do 6 week segments 3x a year GVT format while breaking into the next strength range for olympic trained peeps. Such a waste to powerlifters it is the most popular training style in the world for professional athletes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judesvinet View Post
    First of all you train diffrently depending on your goal. Second if you want to be a powerlifter then high rep is a waste of time(more or less) and if u want to get ready for the beach or comp then u should stick with higher reps and more isolation(dont exclude compound tho). Up the volume 20-30% and keep it simple. Trying to set the world record every time you are on the juice will end up destroying your joints, tendons, ligaments and just about everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post

    Your CNS is the biggest hurdle to pressing weight. I cannot and will not speak for people 5'5-5'9 that try to press 400 lbs+. Going to 2x your weight and beyond crosses into a different type of training territory called maxing and recovering... Tiny M (World Record Holder on the Bench) details this quite trnsparently on youtube and many articles he has interviewed for.

    Sheish.
    Yes you are correct, what Tiny M say or do applies to everything in this world.

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    Well he benched 1000 lbs....I think that would make him pretty much the expert.

    But even if you go back and read others threads..there are many ways to do gains from lifting many ways. There is no one right way to lift weights for the novice lifter.

    When you have to basically break your CNS to the degree you have to to push 1000 lbs it is not something you can do daily, weekly, monthly. Mark Henry says you get TWO strong lifts a year and you time them to your important events. After you make a big lift your CNS is so shattered it takes half a year to heal it to be able to do another big lift. There is a science involved because the big men say and do the same things.

    It is also why you dont see the same guys breaking their lift records weekly...just doesnt work like that at truly heavy weights.

    I bow to anyone over 6 ft who can do 2x their weight at 5+ reps for 3-5 sets. Not many can get that done on the big 3 exercises....not many at all. I mean I will get down and bow.

    I digress


    The real point is progressing to 1-1.5 your weight on an exercise is basic and many paths can take you there. Getting to the 2x level is another animal. Going to beyond 2x is another animal. It is why rep training is so important. You arent going to get to 1.5x your weight reps by only pressing 30 reps a week on that body part from a non-conditioned body with years of training. You have to do many reps and break your CNS at those levels to make those goals. Reps Reps Reps.




    Quote Originally Posted by Judesvinet View Post
    Yes you are correct, what Tiny M say or do applies to everything in this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Well he benched 1000 lbs....I think that would make him pretty much the expert.

    But even if you go back and read others threads..there are many ways to do gains from lifting many ways. There is no one right way to lift weights for the novice lifter.
    Great points but I still believe that its a big diffrence beeing a novice lifter and a world record holder who's been around for a long time. Thats a whole diffrent chapter. Thats why I wrote more or less. Its the same with bodybuilding, in the beginning everything goes smooth then u have to break plateus and try diffrent methods to develop.

    Funny how you mention lifting your bw x 2 since many guys advocates that rule before telling somenone to even think about jumping into steroids.

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    Also, it absolutely depends on your goal... But NASM(National Assoc. of Sports Medecine) has a pyramid that they use:

    From bottom up:
    1. Stabilization/Endurance - 12-15 reps even up to 20 reps
    2. Hypertrophy - 8-10 maybe 6-12 reps(also could up volume a lil(hence 12reps or
    3. Strength - 6-8 reps
    4. Power - 1-5 reps

    Everyone has its place!

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