HCG dose and primary hupogonadism??

[NACH3]

Nach, I believe you are exaggerating your results! Correct me if I am wrong, but you are on the low side of the normal range. That's still normal.
You may want this production to recover so I don't see no reason not to use hCG.

It would be normal if I felt fine... But I have damn near every sign there is of lowT... Bad quality of life, lack of energy, focus, memory, hard time keeping muscle mass, lethargy, insomnia, all after the head trauma(seizures...which has a direct impact on T levels)...

Exaggerating how?? My TT---- is 315(348-1197) LOW- FT-----6.36 (5.00-21.00) they suck... I'm 31 btw.... LH---5.3(1.7-8.6), FSH 5,0-----(1.5-12.4)...This all happened after I experienced severe trauma(flipping my car 6x into a house dying 2x and being brought back!

I also agree that hCG is a must... Sorry but I'm not quite understanding your reply, referring to me exaggerating? Maybe we both misunderstood something... Please share your thoughts cucu...

[cucu]

It would be normal if I felt fine... But I have damn near every sign there is of lowT... Bad quality of life, lack of energy, focus, memory, hard time keeping muscle mass, lethargy, insomnia, all after the head trauma(seizures...which has a direct impact on T levels)...

Exaggerating how?? My TT---- is 315(348-1197) LOW- FT-----6.36 (5.00-21.00) they suck... I'm 31 btw.... LH---5.3(1.7-8.6), FSH 5,0-----(1.5-12.4)...This all happened after I experienced severe trauma(flipping my car 6x into a house dying 2x and being brought back!

I also agree that hCG is a must... Sorry but I'm not quite understanding your reply, referring to me exaggerating? Maybe we both misunderstood something... Please share your thoughts cucu...

I didn't mean it in a bad way, i meant misintepreting results, not over-reacting. Still, your results could be considered "normal".
Still, one thing off the top of my mind, couldn't it be depression? You would have all of the aforementioned symptoms!

Yet, this is a decision for a trained physician to make and diagnose. And not someone who has financial interest in putting you on replacement!

That's all, just my humble opinion.

[NACH3]

I didn't mean it in a bad way, i meant misintepreting results, not over-reacting. Still, your results could be considered "normal".
Still, one thing off the top of my mind, couldn't it be depression? You would have all of the aforementioned symptoms!

Yet, this is a decision for a trained physician to make and diagnose. And not someone who has financial interest in putting you on replacement!

That's all, just my humble opinion.

Thx cucu I always appreciate feedback and criticism(good or bad) ... And though I've had depression or have, it's definitely controlled at this time...

I would be in total agreement if I didn't feel the way I do. With that said, I've been able to go back in time(hypothetically lol)and was able to pin point the time I started to feel the way I do(which was about a few months after me getting out of the coma!

Literally had no idea what was going on but thought it was depression as well... Saw the doc, and have been g2g w/my depression, however the issues thst I stated earlier still remained, therefore decided to get BW done and boom, there it was(TT & FT LOW)... And I also agree that waiting and making sure all such avenues are exhausted ever b4 starting TRT(or anything for life for that matter)!

Thx for your replies... You always have good/valid points that are brought up!

~Nach

[cucu]

I would be in total agreement if I didn't feel the way I do. With that said, I've been able to go back in time(hypothetically lol)and was able to pin point the time I started to feel the way I do(which was about a few months after me getting out of the coma!

Literally had no idea what was going on but thought it was depression as well... Saw the doc, and have been g2g w/my depression, however the issues thst I stated earlier still remained, therefore decided to get BW done and boom, there it was(TT & FT LOW)... And I also agree that waiting and making sure all such avenues are exhausted ever b4 starting TRT(or anything for life for that matter)!

Well I am saying that here in Europe it is hormonal replacement in hypogonadism is much more strict. Guidelines are generally to try to preserve as long as possible endogenous function (especially if no fertility problems or when fertility is irrelevant).

With such things it is always difficult to diagnose and differentiate. Sometimes there is comorbidity, ie the person has both conditions, or even more. What I believe is along the lines you mentioned, be sure before you commit to life.

In such cases, it is important not to self-diagnose, seek honest opinions and not go to the doctor with a diagnosis on hand. I am sure the physician has to check other things as well, before diagnosing. Two things come to my mind, more may be relevant: fertility parameters and a hormonal challenge (hCG or clomiphene). Plus, make sure that your doctor does not have a financial interest in diagnosing a condition! Things in USA are harsh, money is everything there..

I guess you have at least an answer to your question about hCG, right?

[NACH3]

Well I am saying that here in Europe it is hormonal replacement in hypogonadism is much more strict. Guidelines are generally to try to preserve as long as possible endogenous function (especially if no fertility problems or when fertility is irrelevant).

With such things it is always difficult to diagnose and differentiate. Sometimes there is comorbidity, ie the person has both conditions, or even more. What I believe is along the lines you mentioned, be sure before you commit to life.

In such cases, it is important not to self-diagnose, seek honest opinions and not go to the doctor with a diagnosis on hand. I am sure the physician has to check other things as well, before diagnosing. Two things come to my mind, more may be relevant: fertility parameters and a hormonal challenge (hCG or clomiphene). Plus, make sure that your doctor does not have a financial interest in diagnosing a condition! Things in USA are harsh, money is everything there..

I guess you have at least an answer to your question about hCG, right?

Lol... Yeah here in the states the clinics kill you w/$$$ cost! And all the more reason to find a competent, reputable Dr... Who actually specializes in hormones

And I totally agree w/waiting and making the absolute right decision b4 starting any type of hormone therapy for life! Definitely plan on seeing an Endo and trying to get it covered thru Ins.(if that's the case a lil while down the road)...

Yes I sure did get the answer I sought out! Just wanted to be sure of that type of thing(especially when I have no plan to cruise) for when PCT time comes around(yeah it's not for a while but suddenly thought of it today)...Lol thx for bouncing ideas back and forth...