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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL
    Its not a small thing, think about it this way 37mg of ace would equal 100mg of Enanth, that is a big difference in effectiveness that can not be ignored, i am not here to prove anything i was a skeptic myself at first but have come to believe this to be true...as i dais the person i talked to about this is very well versed in the science of PEDs...
    true but the enanthate releases slower snd over time you end up with higher blood levels on the same weekly dose

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    Not if the hormone becomes unstable while attached to a longer ester which seems to be the cause of this short coming of tren E. I think the hormone is unable to stay active while being in the body for extended period of time and simply looses its potency and structure is altered making it non-bio-available.

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    true but the enanthate releases slower snd over time you end up with higher blood levels on the same weekly dose

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL
    Not if the hormone becomes unstable while attached to a longer ester which seems to be the cause of this short coming of tren E. I think the hormone is unable to stay active while being in the body for extended period of time and simply looses its potency and structure is altered making it non-bio-available.
    run labs and compare test prop vs test cyp same weekly dose. I've done it and after six weeks my blood levels were higher on cyp. Might be different with tren. Now maybe my levels were higher on the cyp cause it was pharm grade and prop was ugl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    run labs and compare test prop vs test cyp same weekly dose. I've done it and after six weeks my blood levels were higher on cyp. Might be different with tren. Now maybe my levels were higher on the cyp cause it was pharm grade and prop was ugl.
    I think this is the ester weight as I asked up top, Bio(and im getting its the Tren thats the difference and the ester attached)?!...

    My levels on prop were higher 6wks in than on cyp at 100mgs lower than the cyp I was running... Could've been Underdosed cyp or overdosed prop but im not too sure... This is what im gathering from my post asking Mike about the difference in prop and cyp mg for mg... If that's what you mean...

    Plus im running all short esters w/cyp combined w/prop
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3
    I think this is the ester weight as I asked up top, Bio(and im getting its the Tren thats the difference and the ester attached)?!... My levels on prop were higher 6wks in than on cyp at 100mgs lower than the cyp I was running... Could've been Underdosed cyp or overdosed prop but im not too sure... This is what im gathering from my post asking Mike about the difference in prop and cyp mg for mg... If that's what you mean... Plus im running all short esters w/cyp combined w/prop
    how close were they just out of curiosity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    how close were they just out of curiosity?
    Still pretty damn close!
    Well the prop was pinned ed so that alone(now I think of it could very well be the culprit) not having 3 days b4 last pin w/cyp(750/wk) was 5200ish ng/dl
    Prop(600/wk 6000ish ng/dl -- around about - it wasn't too much of a difference and that's just the test - no NPP involved

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3
    Still pretty damn close! Well the prop was pinned ed so that alone(now I think of it could very well be the culprit) not having 3 days b4 last pin w/cyp(750/wk) was 5200ish ng/dl Prop(600/wk 6000ish ng/dl -- around about - it wasn't too much of a difference and that's just the test - no NPP involved
    yes pretty close. Nice number too
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