Should I be adding more training days to my schedule while on cycle?

[Proximal]

MMA, you did seem to cop a bit of an attitude, so that did not help, but with that said I get where your question is coming from and I am just posting to continue the conversation.

Just yesterday I went and bought both "Muscular Development" (had Austinite on the cover - damn he's one good looking dude!) and a "Flex" for some motivation. Case and point: in May's Flex, Arnold stated he trained body parts 3x/wk. with 25-30 sets for larger muscle groups. In June's MD, he stated he did 20-25 sets of calves every day (because they were lagging). But of course, he was Arnold and genetically gifted, however, this is what I recall in general when I was younger, greater volume - and I assumed they could pull off that volume because of the recovery aspects of AAS. So this is what I recalled as being the "norm" when I was younger (we're talking 1970's - 80's here). I don't recall anyone besides Mike Metzer going the low volume route.

But then you look through the rest of both of the above magazines and the "norm" appears to be considerably less. I'm seeing typically that each body part is hit only once per week and the exercise and set amounts are much lower. I am curious, when did this fundamental switch come about? Although I was working out in the 90's and into the next century, I didn't read any magazines. Now I've been on TRT and have amazing success, and just starting my first cycle and my interest is once again peaked.

[numbere]

Just yesterday I went and bought both "Muscular Development" (had Austinite on the cover - damn he's one good looking dude!) and a "Flex" for some motivation. Case and point: in May's Flex, Arnold stated he trained body parts 3x/wk. with 25-30 sets for larger muscle groups. In June's MD, he stated he did 20-25 sets of calves every day (because they were lagging). But of course, he was Arnold and genetically gifted, however, this is what I recall in general when I was younger, greater volume - and I assumed they could pull off that volume because of the recovery aspects of AAS. So this is what I recalled as being the "norm" when I was younger (we're talking 1970's - 80's here). I don't recall anyone besides Mike Metzer going the low volume route.

I read Arnold's New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding (Bill Dobbins was the real author) several time cover to cover when I was a young lad.

IMO a lot the the bodybuilding information in that book that is quoted from Arnold is a stretch of the truth and was said to trip people up.

[Proximal]

I read Arnold's New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding (Bill Dobbins was the real author) several time cover to cover when I was a young lad.

IMO a lot the the bodybuilding information in that book that is quoted from Arnold is a stretch of the truth and was said to trip people up.

That wouldn't surprise me at all. However, what I remember back in the day (and certainly I could have remembered it incorrectly, it has after all been a while) - what seemed to be the pinnacle of working out would be: 3 days on and 1 off, but on those 3 days, generally 2x per day. But after that off day, the 3 days would be repeated, thus every body part was worked 2x/wk.

[MDelgado34]

I don't recall anyone besides Mike Metzer going the low volume route.

Dorian Yates did HIT, Mark Dugdale i think did as well. David Henry did DC training which was similar even Chris Cormier tried HIT. And the volume was there just 1 all out set. I know alot of people think Mentzer and Dorian did just 1 set but they also pyramided their "warm up" sets. It was just a way of upping the intensity I think. Heard that Voulme works well when on cycle because there is more blood in your body so you can deliver more nutrients to the muscles so you want to pump as much blood as you can. Im not sure if thats true but it sounds good!

[Proximal]

Dorian Yates did HIT, Mark Dugdale i think did as well. David Henry did DC training which was similar even Chris Cormier tried HIT. And the volume was there just 1 all out set. I know alot of people think Mentzer and Dorian did just 1 set but they also pyramided their "warm up" sets. It was just a way of upping the intensity I think. Heard that Voulme works well when on cycle because there is more blood in your body so you can deliver more nutrients to the muscles so you want to pump as much blood as you can. Im not sure if thats true but it sounds good!

You're correct, but it was meant to be no one else at that particular time (late 70's in particular). Never stopped training, but there is a gap in my awareness between the 90's and now (crap-just shocked myself in how long that is!) regarding frequency and volume of training in body-building. I'm starting to get the impression that working muscle groups 1x per week seems to be more of the norm. And yes of course MuscleScience, completely agree that it will always depend on that person's personal response.

[NACH3]

Dorian Yates did HIT, Mark Dugdale i think did as well. David Henry did DC training which was similar even Chris Cormier tried HIT. And the volume was there just 1 all out set. I know alot of people think Mentzer and Dorian did just 1 set but they also pyramided their "warm up" sets. It was just a way of upping the intensity I think. Heard that Voulme works well when on cycle because there is more blood in your body so you can deliver more nutrients to the muscles so you want to pump as much blood as you can. Im not sure if thats true but it sounds good!

What is growth?? All it is - is putting your body under so much stress that it's got NO CHOICE TO GROW! Whatever type of training style it may be... The key is that it needs to be done in a high intensity manner w/very short rest periods & S/S's tri sets drop sets Rest Pauses forced reps into negatives etc!

Remember what builds your muscle will keep it and vice versa! So if your a HIT guy then HIT is what you stick with but time your cycles after coming off of a pullback(deload phase) then into full bore HIT you'll grow like a weed

if anything your going to be training harder and more intensely(push your limits like you've never had) that does not mean for you to go and do two a days on cycle when you can tear that BP down in less than an hr! And be sore as hell all the way up till its time to train that BP again(usually 7-9 days in my experiences I've been keeping it at 7days and hitting that BP on the 8th recently)

[OdinsOtherSon]

What is growth?? All it is - is putting your body under so much stress that it's got NO CHOICE TO GROW! Whatever type of training style it may be... The key is that it needs to be done in a high intensity manner w/very short rest periods & S/S's tri sets drop sets Rest Pauses forced reps into negatives etc!

Remember what builds your muscle will keep it and vice versa! So if your a HIT guy then HIT is what you stick with but time your cycles after coming off of a pullback(deload phase) then into full bore HIT you'll grow like a weed

if anything your going to be training harder and more intensely(push your limits like you've never had) that does not mean for you to go and do two a days on cycle when you can tear that BP down in less than an hr! And be sore as hell all the way up till its time to train that BP again(usually 7-9 days in my experiences I've been keeping it at 7days and hitting that BP on the 8th recently)

Generally I tend to agree with NACH and do with this^^; however, we're all different and respond to various training methods and diets differently. Also, new research is always being done. Here is an interesting article I ran across a few days ago.

Muscle growth may be improved with longer rest between weightlifting sets - Medical News Today