Ephedra is legal and available...

[ShredMN]

Magic,

I'm new here so I'm unable to PM people yet, but I was wondering if you could send me a PM. I don't want to use thermos anymore because they seem to just throw a bunch of trash in those products whether they actually help with weight loss or not. I'd rather go with something that is tried and true from now on. Also if you could add in your PM (besides source) what the recommended dosage and time frame for use would be, that would be great.

Thanks,
Shred

[rsmihula]

pm bump

[Dan139]

Hey Magic I am new to the Forum but not ECA.... I don't know if you can PM me? Or if you did if I could read it!! So if you you can send it to my Email addy....Daniel DOT Guzman139 AT icloud DOT com that would be great!! I am tired of these pseudo and HCL crap!! I want the tried and true mix!! Thanks in advance...

[magic32]

Bump

[Narkissos]

Gonna have to PM you my friend

[ThreeP3t3]

Magic32 could you please send me the list. It would be greatly appreciated

[magic32]

Sup Nark, I'm PMing both you and ThreeP3.

Fellas, although I bump it from time to time, don't expect I'll check this thread. PM me.

Best to you.

[magic32]

ThreeP3t3,

Your PM is currently turned off, thus you are unable to receive PMs.

[magic32]

[Duplex32]

Hit me up is possible....

[magic32]

Will check with a couple of Mods, but technically I should be able to post Ephedra sites, as this is not an illicit or even a controlled substance. Will get back to you, in the interim shoot me a pm if needed.

[NewandUnsure7]

Magic interested but too new to PM you

[Khazima]

Could u shoot me a PM plz magic

[magic32]

Bump for those still looking, but don't just respond to the thread, PM me.

[MuscleScience]

Bump for those still looking, but don't just respond to the thread, PM me.

Sup Magic, long time no see buddy.

[bulldoghorn]

Just PM'd you

[F4iGuy]

PM Sent. Would be nice to have something without guaf. added.

[krugerr]

This has been bumped, but just a warning to those in the UK. This is highly illegal now, as a class A substance.

[InternalFire]

yea... well, I still havent got a response back to my PM

[magic32]

GREAT NEWS GUYS!!!

I've been getting a lot of PMs for the Ephedra site I use. So I checked with Brian C. (site owner), who had given me permission a while back to post a now defunct site, just to make sure it was still ok to post this SUPPLEMENT (not steroid) website for Ephedra and he said, to quote him directly, "Yes sir".

So again Mods please do not edit or remove the following post or this thread, as this posting was approved by Brian at 9:47 am today.

Fitnessmodels.com says "Hello"!!!

[magic32]

GET AUTHENTIC/OLD SCHOOL EPHEDRA HERE:

This site has Ephedra products, but the one with the best old school 3-2-1 ECA ratio (read earlier posts), effective ancillary ingredients, solid potency, and a great price per tab, which I ALWAYS purchase is China White. Enjoy!

SITE: https://www.tfsupplements.com/

PRODUCT: https://www.tfsupplements.com/store/...ina-white.html

[jstone]

Ephedra is garbage without the illegal (illegal in supplements)alkaloids IMO. All the old products contained one of the banned ephedra alkaloids. So these new products are not the same. All the products claiming to be the an eca stack all say ephedra extract, and if you notice in the description of some of the products it states that the alkaloids have been removed.

The short story is that ephedra is still legal to be sold as a supplement, but ephedrine alkaloids are not. There is 4 potent alkaloids present in ephedra ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, norephedrine, and methylephedrine. when you remove these alkaloids ephedra is legal to be used in supplements.

While the banned alkaloids were the major players for weight loss, they weren’t the only players. So there is still some benefits from ephedra without the alkaloids. Ephedrine alkaloids are really only 0.5% to 2.5% of the plant. So your not getting much benefit unless using the alkaloids.

just google ephedra and you will find out all these products are not the same. Bronk aid, and primatene actually have ephedrine hcl, one of the alkaloids banned from supplements. There is also one company selling a copy of the old oxy elite pro with dmaa in it. It is an exact copy with the addition of garcinia cambogia(sp). You can also buy dmaa in bulk from one company I know of, but once its gone they will not receive anymore.

look into it for yourself and you will find ephedra never has been banned and for good reason. Its not what was used in the products that people were having adverse reactions to. Therefore there was no reason to ban ephedra. Elhedra alkaloids were made illegal because thats what was causing all the adverse reactions. So if the product contains 25mg of ephedra exteact at best it contains 2.5% of alkaloids. So you get less than 1mg of what you want. Do your research these products dont have what you want in them. If you can find a source for AAS you can find ephedrine. Lots of sources actually sell injectable ephedrine in amps without the expectorant that is in primatene or bronk aid.

[magic32]

Bump...AUTHENTIC/OLD SCHOOL EPHEDRA, not Ephedrine, not alkaloid-free, hence the terms 'authentic' and 'old school'.

I've used Eph since before it's inception into stacks, i.e., Twin Labs' Ripped Fuel, Hydroxycut, Xenedrine, Thermbuterorol, etc. We learned of it in college from Muscular Development prior to it's mainstream release, and made our own stacks ordering Ditmetadrine Ephedra from the Power Store in Dixon, IL and combining it with caffeine tabs, and half an aspirin (or an 81 mg baby aspirin). This is the EXACT same product, with the EXACT same potency, and EXACT same CNS effect...as determined me and my highly acute beta receptors.

It's not a counterfeit, nor does it use mimickers such as psuedoephedrine, L-Tyrosine, etc., although it does have some extra ingredients aside from the original stack which are supposed to amplify it, but they never list actual ingredient dosages in proprietary blends, nor are such additives vital. The E-C-A stack in the proper ratio is what's synegistically important, and that's what you'll find here.

Best to you.

[Marsoc]

Dudes I remember when" ripped fuel" came out. Biggest thing since sliced bread. Doing sit-ups like crazy back then lol

[jstone]

Bump...AUTHENTIC/OLD SCHOOL EPHEDRA, not Ephedrine, not alkaloid-free, hence the terms 'authentic' and 'old school'.

I've used Eph since before it's inception into stacks, i.e., Twin Labs' Ripped Fuel, Hydroxycut, Xenedrine, Thermbuterorol, etc. We learned of it in college from Muscular Development prior to it's mainstream release, and made our own stacks ordering Ditmetadrine Ephedra from the Power Store in Dixon, IL and combining it with caffeine tabs, and half an aspirin (or an 81 mg baby aspirin). This is the EXACT same product, with the EXACT same potency, and EXACT same CNS effect...as determined me and my highly acute beta receptors.

It's not a counterfeit, nor does it use mimickers such as psuedoephedrine, L-Tyrosine, etc., although it does have some extra ingredients aside from the original stack which are supposed to amplify it, but they never list actual ingredient dosages in proprietary blends, nor are such additives vital. The E-C-A stack in the proper ratio is what's synegistically important, and that's what you'll find here.

Best to you.

I have been using these product since they gained popularity. Every single product I used that said ephedra always said ephedra as ephedrine hcl on the label. I have tried a lo5 of these products and none of them live up to the old products. I know of multiple sites selling all the same products, and so far the best one I have used is a copy of the old oxy elite pro.

[jstone]

here is the label from original ripped fuel. 20mg of ephedra alkaloids. Ephedra extract wouldnt be legal if it was the ingredient that worked. You think the feds would ban the product that didn't work and make the effective product legal?

Ephedra alkaloids are what causes the weight loss and energy from ephedra bottom line. The products on these websites aren't the originals. The originals are now illegal for supplements. The only way to get the real effective products is through bronk aid, primatene, and ordering ephedrine hcl from a source. Anybody who has bought the china white and would like to do a comparison I will send them some primatene to compare it to.

if you can find the label of any old product they will generally say ma huang standardized for a certain amount of ephedra alkaloids, similar to this label. Or it will say ephedra as ephedrine hcl. Its not easy to find some of the old labels.

this is not an attack on the op, but the op is misinformed. Ephedra is not what you want, its the alkaloids. I have used these products for well over 20 years. I was using these products from high school to now, and have tried a lot of the ephedra products. The ephedra products have less than 5% alkaloid content. So less than 5% of 25mg is what your getting in the products in the links. Original ripped fuel has 20mg of alkaloids.

This should show you the differences, but if anybody needs more info I will be haply to provide it. Anybody with one of these products willing to do an objective review just pm me and I will send you some primatene asap.

[MASTER]

It's not remotely class A in UK. It is still technically legal to by over the counter in chemists in the UK (in 9 tablet blister packs). Unfortunately there are no chemists selling anymore as the one remaining manufacturer (do-do chesteze, made by Novartis) discontinued production last year after bad press from some soldiers dying after taking too many.

[InternalFire]

Out of curiosity went around asking for bronc-aid and was looked at like someone from out of a different planet, wtf is that about

well I dont know if china-white is stuffed with ephedra herb that has little to none alkaloids just for marketing hype, but this thing turns my thermogenesis trough the roof, I dont necessarily feel less hungry but it feels ok and as long as I keep myself hydrated I avoid headaches (assume from caffeine) and I am not even taking full pill at once, I split half of it and take half it in the AM, then if I feel like it I would take another half in PM. Maybe they still stuff it with potent stuff but not label it? I am of course just speculating and if I am even right at this by the slightest I would love to see someone had it chemically test it and see what is china-white made off.
I believe I may be also suffering from great-great placebo effect of this too

[Simon1972]

interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients.

even ebay !!

[GirlyGymRat]

interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients. even ebay !!

I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.

[Simon1972]

I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.

Start at 10 and ramp it up, love to get your feedback

[jstone]

interesting read, now that its ok to source on the board- can anyone link to a valid product that actually contains the active ingredients.

even ebay !!

Have you ever used the old jack3d or oxy elite pro with 1,3 dmaa? If you like those products let e me know I can point you to bulk dmaa or a new company that is copying the old oxy elite pro.

If you want ephedrine and you live in the states go to the pharmacy counter and ask for bronk aid or primatene. Bronkaid is 25mg of ephedrine hcl per pill and primatene is 12.5mg of ephedrine hcl per pill. Both of these products also have something else in them to help with astma symptoms. If you google it you can find out what it is easy.

You can also get ephedra in amps that is injectable. The sources that carry this are very easy to find, but still in the greay area here.

[jstone]

I found it. Just arrived today. Let's see what happens. 20mg seems like a high dose for me.

20mg which has no more than 2% of the active ingredients. They also chock it full of other stimulasnts. So you will feel it but its not ephedrine, or any ephedra alkaloid.

[Simon1972]

Have you ever used the old jack3d or oxy elite pro with 1,3 dmaa? If you like those products let e me know I can point you to bulk dmaa or a new company that is copying the old oxy elite pro.

If you want ephedrine and you live in the states go to the pharmacy counter and ask for bronk aid or primatene. Bronkaid is 25mg of ephedrine hcl per pill and primatene is 12.5mg of ephedrine hcl per pill. Both of these products also have something else in them to help with astma symptoms. If you google it you can find out what it is easy.

You can also get ephedra in amps that is injectable. The sources that carry this are very easy to find, but still in the greay area here.

Post away,,

[jstone]

Strongsupplementshop.com has the oxy elite pro copy. Its called hydroxy elite pro. They also used to have some of the original product as well, but its like 100 dollars a bottle. They also sell all the crap products with ephedra in them as well. They used to carry a bunch of pro hormones before they were banned.

nutrivitashop.com carries bulk supplements that are all very high quality. They have bulk 1,3 dmaa, but they say once its gone they wont be ordering more. I used to add it to my pre workout, but I have been trying to stay away from a lot of stims lately.

As far asthe ephedrine in the injectable form it come from AAS sources. One was posted earlier in the underground section. Pct-shop I have used them with zero problems, but I moved to another source with virtually all the same products. The only reason was his service is better. If your interested being your name is in red I will give it to you via pm, but you know how sources are. Both places have no shipping or minimum so you risk 30 dollars or less to try.

I see your in canada and im not sure about those companies shipping policy is. They may not ship to canada, but if its legal I dont see why they wouldn't. If you need further help send me a pm I forget to check some threads.

[magic32]

Dudes I remember when" ripped fuel" came out. Biggest thing since sliced bread. Doing sit-ups like crazy back then lol

Marsoc, you are dating yourself man LOL! Me too, Twin Labs put it all together for us!!!

[magic32]

Bump! For Ephedra see Post #61.

[Metalmank]

I just PM'd them.

Best to you.

Also interested

[Couchlock]

Strongsupplementshop.com has the oxy elite pro copy. Its called hydroxy elite pro. They also used to have some of the original product as well, but its like 100 dollars a bottle. They also sell all the crap products with ephedra in them as well. They used to carry a bunch of pro hormones before they were banned.

nutrivitashop.com carries bulk supplements that are all very high quality. They have bulk 1,3 dmaa, but they say once its gone they wont be ordering more. I used to add it to my pre workout, but I have been trying to stay away from a lot of stims lately.

As far asthe ephedrine in the injectable form it come from AAS sources. One was posted earlier in the underground section. Pct-shop I have used them with zero problems, but I moved to another source with virtually all the same products. The only reason was his service is better. If your interested being your name is in red I will give it to you via pm, but you know how sources are. Both places have no shipping or minimum so you risk 30 dollars or less to try.

I see your in canada and im not sure about those companies shipping policy is. They may not ship to canada, but if its legal I dont see why they wouldn't. If you need further help send me a pm I forget to check some threads.

I don't see Ephedra alkaloids in here, Am,i missing something?

Is this a good to go fat burner?

I want to order it, but if its crap, is prefer to spend my money on chicken breast

[jstone]

I don't see Ephedra alkaloids in here, Am,i missing something?

Is this a good to go fat burner?

I want to order it, but if its crap, is prefer to spend my money on chicken breast

This doesn't use ephedrine, it uses 1,3 DMAA. Its a copy of the old usp oxy elite pro, which was alwasy a great fat burner. Look up reviews for usp's original oxy elite pro, it was generally considered the best fat burner after ephedra alkaloids were banned. I think it works great, and have recommended it to lots of people that continue to use it.