Well I'm not necessarily looking to start TRT… The question is can I do a 12 week cycle of test, then pct and then taper back into my regular Clomid program without fucking everything up.
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Well I'm not necessarily looking to start TRT… The question is can I do a 12 week cycle of test, then pct and then taper back into my regular Clomid program without fucking everything up.
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Yes u can. But i guess you need more clomid and nolvadex before u taper back to you 50 mg ed schedule.Originally Posted by Jackboned
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News flash. Clomid therapy is TRT. You need to find a new fvckin doctor like MS mentioned. Yours told you your T was on the floor, didn't seem to bother to find out why and just gave you clomid. You also need to self-educate a bit more and understand the function of clomid compared to TRT with actual testosterone.
Yes, you can do a cycle. Simply follow the Successful First Cycle thread at the top of this forum. Clomid will be useless once you present exogenous testosterone into your system so it will not be necessary to take during the cycle. Also understand that any cycle will shut down HPTA function afterwhich you'd have to restart your system via pct with serms, either clomid or clomid and nolva. Problem is, you'll only go back to the same levels that clomid maintains for you now, or possibly less.
All that said, step one should be to find a new doctor and try to find out what the actual problem is before you try a cycle. Obtaining a copy of the blood work your did just prior to clomid therapy may help greatly.
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Very much appreciated. Self-educating is exactly what I'm here for, so thanks for helping with that. As I understand it now, Clomid makes my body think my estrogen levels are high, and it responds by ramping up my test production. I understand this is a totally different strategy from supplementing with synthetic testosterone. I also understand that post cycle, once I'm tapered back down to my usual clomid regimen, I'll be back at normal levels or slightly lower than normal... What I don't want is to lower my baseline test production any further because its already apparently naturally low. When I had that bloodwork done, we discovered my thyroid was slightly underactive, vitamin D deficient, and my test was very low. I had just gone through a horrendous divorce and I was massively depressed, and he knew that so maybe he just assumed it everything was off because of that... He prescribed the Clomid, synthroid, and Vitamin D supplements, all of which brought everything back to normal levels.
Last edited by Jackboned; 04-09-2017 at 08:02 PM.
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Very good info, thank you sir. My thyroid and vitamin d are good now... I agree I'm curious to know what my natural levels are now. I've asked my doc about getting off the Clomid but he really isn't a great listener obviously, and he just brushed it off. He is a hot mess... He's a personal friend which is probably part of the problem. Maybe I'll stop taking the clomid for a few weeks and then have new bloodwork done. If everything looks normal then I may have a course of action.
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