Experienced feedback greatly appreciated...

[Windex]

Sorry that post was so long.

Cliff Notes

Have been on trt clinic program of 200mg test c per week for the past 9 weeks (self administered 100mg every 3.5 days). Several years of training, increased my calories by 400 daily (tracked with macro breakdown). In 9 weeks put on 10lbs but it's not as clean as I expected. Training over this time has been 5-6 days a week (45-60 minute lifting sessions) I have never used AAS prior but in the past I have seen gains similar to this while just using creatine.

I am wanting to begin a cycle like the one recommended on this forum for first cycles. How long is it recommended to be off the trt dose to begin?

Thank you
b

How often is your doctor going to be pulling bloodwork? Is your TRT prescribed from your family doctor, endocrinologist, urologist, or self medicating?

9 Weeks is a very short amount of time. There's no magic number everyone is different - but most people will get bloodwork done atleast every 3-4 months in the first year while their TRT is being dialed in then transition to bloodwork annually or every 6 months.

There wouldn't be any advantage to cycling this early with frequent bloodwork because it's going to come back sky high with a cycle.

Personally it took me a year to get TRT dialed in but again everyone is different. Once your TRT protocol is set up then you can cycle. In the meantime I would suggest posting your diet in our diet and nutrition program. Nobody has a perfect diet and there is always room for imrprovement.

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How often is your doctor going to be pulling bloodwork? Is your TRT prescribed from your family doctor, endocrinologist, urologist, or self medicating?

9 Weeks is a very short amount of time. There's no magic number everyone is different - but most people will get bloodwork done atleast every 3-4 months in the first year while their TRT is being dialed in then transition to bloodwork annually or every 6 months.

There wouldn't be any advantage to cycling this early with frequent bloodwork because it's going to come back sky high with a cycle.

Personally it took me a year to get TRT dialed in but again everyone is different. Once your TRT protocol is set up then you can cycle. In the meantime I would suggest posting your diet in our diet and nutrition program. Nobody has a perfect diet and there is always room for imrprovement.

Windex thank you for your help it's greatly appreciated.

The trt is doctor prescribed through a wellness clinic that focuses specifically on trt. How this clinic works is you basically go in for labs and if they come back low you can then begin treatment. This clinic has it setup such that you sign on in 12 week increments at a time (last two weeks no testosterone, instead they give you hcg to administer at home). Then at the end of the 12 week period you may begin back on the prescribed protocol. The clinic did my labs originally to see if I was low t (which I was), then they do labs again (4 days after last injection) at end of 10 weeks of being on test C. Depending upon the labs at the 10 week mark they may adjust trt dosage up or down (if I decide to stay with this clinic) depending upon how labs look.

Here's the thing I am beginning to think that I have overestimated the ability of trt at 200mg per week. While I have noticed a difference in strength and lifts my hopes were such that I would gain lean mass at a rate better than pre trt. This has not been the case. The 10 lbs I have gained are softer than previous 20 lbs I gained naturally over the last 10 months. This has me second guessing my selection of trt vs a standard 12 week higher dose test cycle. Cost of this clinic is not cheap but it is convenient and it's sort of a one stop shop kind of deal. Doing a cycle correctly and getting labs done is likely not much cheaper (possibly more) however the end product gains are more in alignment with my goals.

I appreciate the suggestion of seeking help in the diet section I may do this shortly, as any tips are always greatly appreciated and helpful. To be very clear though I have not changed my diet at since commencing trt other than adding in 400 calories per day. Pre trt I was 180 lbs and the scale held steady with 3000 calories per day. Once I began trt I kept macro breakdown same but took in an extra 400 calories. Also increased workouts from 4-5 days a week to 5-6 days per week.

Either way provided my labs comeback decent later next week would it be reasonable to run a cycle of 500mg test E per week for 12 weeks (following this forums guidelines on ancillaries and full pct.)?

Thank you for your input
b

[Windex]

Windex thank you for your help it's greatly appreciated.

The trt is doctor prescribed through a wellness clinic that focuses specifically on trt. How this clinic works is you basically go in for labs and if they come back low you can then begin treatment. This clinic has it setup such that you sign on in 12 week increments at a time (last two weeks no testosterone, instead they give you hcg to administer at home). Then at the end of the 12 week period you may begin back on the prescribed protocol. The clinic did my labs originally to see if I was low t (which I was), then they do labs again (4 days after last injection) at end of 10 weeks of being on test C. Depending upon the labs at the 10 week mark they may adjust trt dosage up or down (if I decide to stay with this clinic) depending upon how labs look.

Here's the thing I am beginning to think that I have overestimated the ability of trt at 200mg per week. While I have noticed a difference in strength and lifts my hopes were such that I would gain lean mass at a rate better than pre trt. This has not been the case. The 10 lbs I have gained are softer than previous 20 lbs I gained naturally over the last 10 months. This has me second guessing my selection of trt vs a standard 12 week higher dose test cycle. Cost of this clinic is not cheap but it is convenient and it's sort of a one stop shop kind of deal. Doing a cycle correctly and getting labs done is likely not much cheaper (possibly more) however the end product gains are more in alignment with my goals.

I appreciate the suggestion of seeking help in the diet section I may do this shortly, as any tips are always greatly appreciated and helpful. To be very clear though I have not changed my diet at since commencing trt other than adding in 400 calories per day. Pre trt I was 180 lbs and the scale held steady with 3000 calories per day. Once I began trt I kept macro breakdown same but took in an extra 400 calories. Also increased workouts from 4-5 days a week to 5-6 days per week.

Either way provided my labs comeback decent later next week would it be reasonable to run a cycle of 500mg test E per week for 12 weeks (following this forums guidelines on ancillaries and full pct.)?

Thank you for your input
b

As I said in my previous post it is way to early to cycle. You have only been on TRT for two months.

The wellness clinic you are seeing is using an oudated and very poor standard of care. You need to find a doctor to work with you on TRt not a wellness clinic - they are doing things incorrectly