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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    This sounds like it's perfect for me. I'm nowhere near contest prep, or need to just bulk, I'm still trying to transform my body. Since I'll be coming off a 16 week cycle in about six weeks, how do you propose I transition into to this. Should I go ahead and incorporate phase 3 and 4 at the end of this cycle? I dont have the gear to stop cycle and start phase 3 and 4 now, but could have it as early as 3 weeks.
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    Was planning to run some winny for 4 weeks, but now I'm thinking about waiting till after cycle
    Why so high on the test? 750 imho is off the chart. The actual difference in gains between 500 and 750 is minimal but the aromitization is crazy on 750.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cokemarine View Post
    Why so high on the test? 750 imho is off the chart. The actual difference in gains between 500 and 750 is minimal but the aromitization is crazy on 750.
    Because I grow on high levels of test. I am not estrogen sensitive, and take very little Ai. The mast helps lower estrogen also

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Because I grow on high levels of test. I am not estrogen sensitive, and take very little Ai. The mast helps lower estrogen also
    750 isn’t high imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    750 isn’t high imo
    I agree, if bulking. 750 seems to be a good amount for me to recomp

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    Blast and cruise is effective. Test propinate is the preferred testosterone for the blasts for sure. For years now I have been a proponent of tapering testosterone down after blast until reaching near physiological levels. This is because, as you made mention, cortisol and other catabolic horomones will rise during cycle and so best to gradually lower test and let these hormones progressively descend as well. This method also essentially got rid of any acne problems (which for me was mainly an issue during PCT). I mention this because most of the forum advice out there recommends abruptly stopping, waiting until drug clearance, and then launching into a clomid, nolvadex, or other PCT protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike View Post
    Blast and cruise is effective. Test propinate is the preferred testosterone for the blasts for sure. For years now I have been a proponent of tapering testosterone down after blast until reaching near physiological levels. This is because, as you made mention, cortisol and other catabolic horomones will rise during cycle and so best to gradually lower test and let these hormones progressively descend as well. This method also essentially got rid of any acne problems (which for me was mainly an issue during PCT). I mention this because most of the forum advice out there recommends abruptly stopping, waiting until drug clearance, and then launching into a clomid, nolvadex, or other PCT protocol.
    EXACTLY !

    I'll be starting a thread, which I already mentioned here, about advanced AAS protocols and optimizing PCT . part of my protocols with that is exactly what you just stated, and going against the idea of abruptly stopping all your compounds and jumping on a generic PCT regimen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cokemarine View Post
    Why so high on the test? 750 imho is off the chart. The actual difference in gains between 500 and 750 is minimal but the aromitization is crazy on 750.
    I agree with the other guys (remember we are in an "advanced protocols" thread) that 750mg of test is not that high at all . if you look at my example 2 protocol, you see test is front loaded at 200mg per DAY.

    the difference between 500mg of test and 750mg is not that much for a newer user, I agree. but 500mg of test is what a lot of bigger guys are doing as there TRT.

    also, Aromatization being crazy high at 750 mg . that depends on the person. I don't need an AI at a gram of test per week. and besides, depending on the goal of the cycle and the protocol we are using, we may be specifically after and wanting higher aromatization.
    we may be running higher doses of test, over a gram, AND throwing Dbol in there as well just to get as much estrogen as possible (depends on the situation . . . so just saying 'crazy aromatization' is not necessarily a negative side effect)

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