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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Finasteride will block all DHT regardless of where it's coming from. It blocks the receptors that DHT binds to (hair follicles, prostate, and I'm sure other areas but dont have time to research atm)
    Finasteride acts more like an AI then it does a SERM (but in regards to DHT, not Estrogen). in regards to estrogen , an AI blocks the conversion of test into estrogen, thus lowering blood leaves of estrogen, but does NOT block estrogen at the receptor itself (this is the job of a SERM, which does not stop the conversion process of test into estrogen but does block estrogen at certain receptor sites).

    fina acts more like an AI , yet instead of blocking the aromatase enzyme, it works on the DHT enzyme (5 alpha reductase) . the result is less conversion of androgens, like test, into DHT . however , the DHT that is in the blood stream will still be able to bind to receptors (again its not like a SERM in regards to DHT).

    I think where the confusion is , is that 5 alpha reductase (the enzyme that turns androgens into DHT) is generally found at the site itself (like the prostate and scalp). because of this, guys think that Finasteride blocks DHT at the receptor site itself as well. but it does not. it only stops the conversion process of androgens into DHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Finasteride acts more like an AI then it does a SERM (but in regards to DHT, not Estrogen). in regards to estrogen , an AI blocks the conversion of test into estrogen, thus lowering blood leaves of estrogen, but does NOT block estrogen at the receptor itself (this is the job of a SERM, which does not stop the conversion process of test into estrogen but does block estrogen at certain receptor sites).

    fina acts more like an AI , yet instead of blocking the aromatase enzyme, it works on the DHT enzyme (5 alpha reductase) . the result is less conversion of androgens, like test, into DHT . however , the DHT that is in the blood stream will still be able to bind to receptors (again its not like a SERM in regards to DHT).

    I think where the confusion is , is that 5 alpha reductase (the enzyme that turns androgens into DHT) is generally found at the site itself (like the prostate and scalp). because of this, guys think that Finasteride blocks DHT at the receptor site itself as well. but it does not. it only stops the conversion process of androgens into DHT.
    According to that finasteride has no effect on winstrol right

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy View Post
    According to that finasteride has no effect on winstrol right
    not directly . but things are more complicated then that often times.. so when running winstol it has the ability to lower SHBG and thus free up more testosterone . with more testosterone now available you have more possibility for DHT to elevate. thus in a round about way, the Winstrol can increase DHT . so Finasteride could still be of some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    not directly . but things are more complicated then that often times.. so when running winstol it has the ability to lower SHBG and thus free up more testosterone . with more testosterone now available you have more possibility for DHT to elevate. thus in a round about way, the Winstrol can increase DHT . so Finasteride could still be of some help.
    Makes sense....so it all comes back to test to DHT conversion...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    not directly . but things are more complicated then that often times.. so when running winstol it has the ability to lower SHBG and thus free up more testosterone . with more testosterone now available you have more possibility for DHT to elevate. thus in a round about way, the Winstrol can increase DHT . so Finasteride could still be of some help.
    So it wont stop effects from winstrol then

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Finasteride acts more like an AI then it does a SERM (but in regards to DHT, not Estrogen). in regards to estrogen , an AI blocks the conversion of test into estrogen, thus lowering blood leaves of estrogen, but does NOT block estrogen at the receptor itself (this is the job of a SERM, which does not stop the conversion process of test into estrogen but does block estrogen at certain receptor sites).

    fina acts more like an AI , yet instead of blocking the aromatase enzyme, it works on the DHT enzyme (5 alpha reductase) . the result is less conversion of androgens, like test, into DHT . however , the DHT that is in the blood stream will still be able to bind to receptors (again its not like a SERM in regards to DHT).

    I think where the confusion is , is that 5 alpha reductase (the enzyme that turns androgens into DHT) is generally found at the site itself (like the prostate and scalp). because of this, guys think that Finasteride blocks DHT at the receptor site itself as well. but it does not. it only stops the conversion process of androgens into DHT.
    Gotcha. It inhibits the conversion of test to DHT by reducing 5 alpha reductase enzyme production...(think I got it now lol)

    So OP was correct in saying that finasteride won't do anything for him in regards to androgenic compounds that affect DHT receptors aside from test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Finasteride acts more like an AI then it does a SERM (but in regards to DHT, not Estrogen). in regards to estrogen , an AI blocks the conversion of test into estrogen, thus lowering blood leaves of estrogen, but does NOT block estrogen at the receptor itself (this is the job of a SERM, which does not stop the conversion process of test into estrogen but does block estrogen at certain receptor sites).

    fina acts more like an AI , yet instead of blocking the aromatase enzyme, it works on the DHT enzyme (5 alpha reductase) . the result is less conversion of androgens, like test, into DHT . however , the DHT that is in the blood stream will still be able to bind to receptors (again its not like a SERM in regards to DHT).

    I think where the confusion is , is that 5 alpha reductase (the enzyme that turns androgens into DHT) is generally found at the site itself (like the prostate and scalp). because of this, guys think that Finasteride blocks DHT at the receptor site itself as well. but it does not. it only stops the conversion process of androgens into DHT.
    I was going to say that, but GH got to it first. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    I was going to say that, but GH got to it first. :P
    Yeah me too.
    Except it would have came out in a manner that made everyone shake their head and call me names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Yeah me too.
    Except it would have came out in a manner that made everyone shake their head and call me names.
    I told GH from now on, when I read something he says that sounds smart, I was going to say that so I sound smart as well.
    I had to do it at least once

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer View Post
    I told GH from now on, when I read something he says that sounds smart, I was going to say that so I sound smart as well.
    I had to do it at least once

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    Its simple...

    The 5 alpha refuck face acts on the estrogen aroma case. Causes the androgel receptor to be in the prostrate.

    God... Dont you people know anything!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Its simple...

    The 5 alpha refuck face acts on the estrogen aroma case. Causes the androgel receptor to be in the prostrate.

    God... Dont you people know anything!?
    Lol, nope! Just a lowly pleb over here trying to sound like I do

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