Eq is good stuff, just misunderstood. You dont need tren if you are a beginner, but thats a given.
Some guys think eq is weak because they either run not enough or not long enough. You need big doses of eq and long cycles to really get the benefits of it. It provides dry vascular gains without the bloat of test. The gains in my experience are also easier to keep because of this. Couple this with the fact that its not a 19nor and its not dht derived, and you have yourself a very refined strain of gear. Think of it as the champange of steroids. Not the over the top cocktail that makes you wanna do lines off a stripper, but a good bubbly addition to your cycle.