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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Smith54 View Post
    This is the post from GH on 4/7.

    yes EQ has anti estrogen properties through an enzymatic process. this process takes time to build up.. but the longer your on EQ the more anti estrogenic effects you get.
    however depending on your goals you may not want or desire these anti estrogen effects (as estrogen in the presence of elevated androgens is extremely anabolic , increases IGF production, HGH output, and hepatic HDL production). its kinda hard to put on muscle when your E levels are low. sometimes adding a compound like Dbol or Ment just to get additional estrogen conversion can be beneficial to a cycle,, let alone thinking of taking an AI and hindering estrogen from the start.

    its all person and context dependent. theres a time and a place to keep estrogen in the normal range. theres a time and a place to let it skyrocket and enhance muscle growth. it really depends on the situation .

    but AI's are not generally "needed" by any means . and in fact some people will go so far as to say they are dangerous and unhealthy and should't even be part of a TRT protocol let alone a cycle (I personally still see a use for them in various situations).

    check this vid out for more info

    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...l-villian.html


    even if your estrogen sensitive and prone to gyno . theres a whole heck of a lot of ways to run AAS with no need for an AI .. as 80% of the steroids available for us to use don't even convert to estrogen in the fist place, and as previously stated some of them are anti estrogenic .
    its generally only the "test only cycles " crowd that see a need for AI's . but for guys that run mainly anabolics, AI's are never generally needed.

    Last edited by GearHeaded; 04-08-2019 at 12:58 AM.

    Obs: Thanks for the welcome. Just to clarify, I'm a new member, I don't have any bone to pick, GH seems very knowledgeable so I thought I would direct this to him with welcome input from the other members which is why I started a thread and not a pm. Someone said something about 50 posts, is this a thing before you are allowed to do something? Let me know, not trying to skirt the rules.

    Couch: I'm not confusing EQ for Masteron, I've just never heard of EQ being anti estronogenic like GH says, which is very interesting and sounds kind of ideal.
    I didnt figure you had a bone to pick.
    As ghetto said the board apparently has an issue regarding the 50 post rule. I usually get 1-5 pms from new members a week with 2 posts or less.

    I dont recall GH ever saying Eq was anti estrogenic but he did teach me quite a bit abou mast counteracting estrogen side effects.

    Something non estrogenic does not convert to estrogen. Something anti estrogenic would counteract estrogen.

    I dont think anyone was being snarky or smart assed btw. We are a friendly bunch except for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I didnt figure you had a bone to pick.
    As ghetto said the board apparently has an issue regarding the 50 post rule. I usually get 1-5 pms from new members a week with 2 posts or less.

    I dont recall GH ever saying Eq was anti estrogenic but he did teach me quite a bit abou mast counteracting estrogen side effects.

    Something non estrogenic does not convert to estrogen. Something anti estrogenic would counteract estrogen.

    I dont think anyone was being snarky or smart assed btw. We are a friendly bunch except for one.
    Lmao! Except for one! No doubt. A certain zen master maybe?

    Honestly though Obs is right. We have an awesome group of guys here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Lmao! Except for one! No doubt. A certain zen master maybe?

    Honestly though Obs is right. We have an awesome group of guys here
    I’ve never been called a Zen master. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I’ve never been called a Zen master. I like it.
    I couldn’t think of any title more fitting for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    I couldn’t think of any title more fitting for you!
    Zen master blaster.

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