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    Yeah. I had a supersensitivity on my nipples during the 3rd week and they were puffy.

    Any insights regarding my increase in bf and the ballon effect? Is there anything I could change to make the muscles come from a bloated look to a little more hardened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zigzagzig View Post
    Yeah. I had a supersensitivity on my nipples during the 3rd week and they were puffy.

    Any insights regarding my increase in bf and the ballon effect? Is there anything I could change to make the muscles come from a bloated look to a little more hardened?
    Use different compounds. Test is gonna make you bloat/full no matter what. It’s a good thing! Your bulking right? Something like eq doesn’t bloat you at all. Sometung luke mast or tren would get you harder

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    Yeah, I'm bulking. I'll stick to the Test E on this one and get most of it. Now, I'm shifting my worries to the second one and the bridge. I believe it would be to early to get into Tren in a 2nd cycle. Maybe Test + Eq would be a good combination for the 2nd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zigzagzig View Post
    Yeah, I'm bulking. I'll stick to the Test E on this one and get most of it. Now, I'm shifting my worries to the second one and the bridge. I believe it would be to early to get into Tren in a 2nd cycle. Maybe Test + Eq would be a good combination for the 2nd?
    Ya man I liked EQ I just didn’t dose it high enough(only 400mg EQ) it made me harder but I don’t think it’s a great bulker. Like GH always says it’s a filler. Like if you want to use 1.5grams of test but you can’t handle the sides so you use 500mg test and 1000mg eq

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    Ya man I liked EQ I just didn’t dose it high enough(only 400mg EQ) it made me harder but I don’t think it’s a great bulker. Like GH always says it’s a filler. Like if you want to use 1.5grams of test but you can’t handle the sides so you use 500mg test and 1000mg eq
    What do you think would be a good dosage for a second cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zigzagzig View Post
    What do you think would be a good dosage for a second cycle?
    If I was to do it over again I would run 500mg test and 1000mg EQ. I know that seems like a crazy amount but you gotta remember EQ has nearly 0 side effects. I read a very interesting article saying that eq doesn’t start to shine until you get to the 1.5-3gram range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    If I was to do it over again I would run 500mg test and 1000mg EQ. I know that seems like a crazy amount but you gotta remember EQ has nearly 0 side effects. I read a very interesting article saying that eq doesn’t start to shine until you get to the 1.5-3gram range.
    I never had high hemotocrit until eq.

    Thats a crazy statement.
    The ways AAS cause the elevation are still not fully known as of 2018.

    I wouldnt venture out to get a newbie to run that high of a dose.

    700 took me to 183/107 bp.

    Everything is individual specific

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    Quote Originally Posted by zigzagzig View Post
    Yeah, I'm bulking. I'll stick to the Test E on this one and get most of it. Now, I'm shifting my worries to the second one and the bridge. I believe it would be to early to get into Tren in a 2nd cycle. Maybe Test + Eq would be a good combination for the 2nd?
    You won't be able to bulk on Tren in a second cycle.
    I no longer check my inbox. If you PM me I will not reply.

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    Tren is out of my radar for a second or third one.

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    My concern now is how to better keep the gains. What do you guys think from these two option, or feel free to call another one:

    1) Don't do a PCT and stay at TRT levels + HGH 2iu until the second one
    2) Do a regular PCT + HGH and wait up to everything is back on track to go to the second cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    You won't be able to bulk on Tren in a second cycle.
    Tren is out of my radar for a second or third one.

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