Greater Israel: A Dream Closer to Fulfillment

[BOUNCER]

Tock, read 'Spy Catcher' the US spied on the UK, and the UK on the US etc.. It happens. Bama, Arkan was a war criminal and got his dues.

[Animal Cracker]

.. It happens. Bama, Arkan was a war criminal and got his dues.

The Brits thought that about George Washington...The Third Reich thought that about George Patton.. millions of people would say that about the IRA, which you have stated you support.

[Tock]

Tock, read 'Spy Catcher' the US spied on the UK, and the UK on the US etc.. It happens. Bama, Arkan was a war criminal and got his dues.

I don't doubt that there's lots of spying between countries going on. Back when I was working for a big semiconductor company, they told everyone over and over again not to tell anyone about our processes, and call security if we saw any faces that didn't belong in the area. Seems corporate spying is big business these days . . .

But . . . when taxpayers give $9 billion a year to a country who's supposed to be our ally, they shouldn't be stealing our nuclear secrets and handing 'em over to the **** Soviets. With allies like that, who needs enemies?
If it was up to me, I'd pull that $9 billion in foreign aid and put it to better use here in the US.
--Tock

[OGPackin]

I don't doubt that there's lots of spying between countries going on. Back when I was working for a big semiconductor company, they told everyone over and over again not to tell anyone about our processes, and call security if we saw any faces that didn't belong in the area. Seems corporate spying is big business these days . . .

But . . . when taxpayers give $9 billion a year to a country who's supposed to be our ally, they shouldn't be stealing our nuclear secrets and handing 'em over to the **** Soviets. With allies like that, who needs enemies?
If it was up to me, I'd pull that $9 billion in foreign aid and put it to better use here in the US.
--Tock

Ummmm, Tock and u dont think the US doesnt spy on isreal ur frickin nutz!! We spy on everyone!! Allies or not. Or are u just so blinded by ur anti-isreal thoughts that u dont realize that? Come'on now! Should we be calling another spade a spade?

OG

[Tock]

1) Tock and u dont think the US doesnt spy on isreal ur frickin nutz!! We spy on everyone!! Allies or not.

2) Or are u just so blinded by ur anti-isreal thoughts that u dont realize that? Come'on now! Should we be calling another spade a spade?

OG

1) I would be surprised if the US does not spy on Israel. IMHO, if the US had a rational foreign policy, it wouldn't be necessary. Also, IMHO, if the US gives another country a few hundred billion $$$ over a period of years, you certainly wouldn't expect it to spy on its benefactor, and certainly not turn over top secret national defense information to the Soviet Union!

2) No, it is NOT "anti-Israel" to suggest that they should not have done what they did. It is, however, irrational to suggest that Israel should not experience some sort of retaliation for passing US military secrets to its enemies.
Maybe you think it's ok for foreign nations to take billions of $$$ in foreign aid then spy on us. That's your privilege. I, however, think that betrays the trust we had placed in our supposed "ally."
Do I harbor "anti-Israel thoughts?" Not at all. I ain't exactly pleased with them taking our $$$ and then spying on us. What I do harbor are pro-Justice notions that require Israel to move back to the land granted it by the United Nations in 1947, and to stop building settlements outside its territory, and to remove the existing settlements. See, what they're doing is exactly the same thing if Mexico decided they wanted more territory and started having their military protect Mexican settlements in Texas and Arizona and New Mexico and California. There's no way that US citizens would stand for that; and there's no reason for Palestinians to have to put up with Israel doing it to them.

Justice requires everyone to move back to their own territory. And Justice is what I support, and f*** the fundamentalists who oppose Justice and clamor over some ancient religious text.

--Tock

[OGPackin]

1) I would be surprised if the US does not spy on Israel. IMHO, if the US had a rational foreign policy, it wouldn't be necessary. Also, IMHO, if the US gives another country a few hundred billion $$$ over a period of years, you certainly wouldn't expect it to spy on its benefactor, and certainly not turn over top secret national defense information to the Soviet Union!

2) No, it is NOT "anti-Israel" to suggest that they should not have done what they did. It is, however, irrational to suggest that Israel should not experience some sort of retaliation for passing US military secrets to its enemies.
Maybe you think it's ok for foreign nations to take billions of $$$ in foreign aid then spy on us. That's your privilege. I, however, think that betrays the trust we had placed in our supposed "ally."
Do I harbor "anti-Israel thoughts?" Not at all. I ain't exactly pleased with them taking our $$$ and then spying on us. What I do harbor are pro-Justice notions that require Israel to move back to the land granted it by the United Nations in 1947, and to stop building settlements outside its territory, and to remove the existing settlements. See, what they're doing is exactly the same thing if Mexico decided they wanted more territory and started having their military protect Mexican settlements in Texas and Arizona and New Mexico and California. There's no way that US citizens would stand for that; and there's no reason for Palestinians to have to put up with Israel doing it to them.

Justice requires everyone to move back to their own territory. And Justice is what I support, and f*** the fundamentalists who oppose Justice and clamor over some ancient religious text.

--Tock

Looks like someone STILL hasnt watched the links....shame

OG

[Tock]

Ummmm, Tock and u dont think the US doesnt spy on isreal ur frickin nutz!! We spy on everyone!! Allies or not. Or are u just so blinded by ur anti-isreal thoughts that u dont realize that? Come'on now! Should we be calling another spade a spade?

OG

Read what I wrote a bit closer.
I said,
"Originally Posted by Tock
I don't doubt that there's lots of spying between countries going on."

Read and think before you post, thank you.

--Tock