Originally Posted by
the dent depot
I have decided to start taking an ECA stack to help with my leaning up for my next cycle. As with all other things, I had to know as much as possible about ECA before I'd start taking it. I have found that most people are taking: 25mg E/ 200mg C/ 325mg A 3 times a day...
Some said they omit the A, but it is truely part of the synergy and it will keep the magic going...otherwise the effects wear off fairly quickly. Therefore with the a, there is no real need to cycle on/off like Clen.
Through further research I have found that its not a good idea at all to take 975mg/day of A, as many are. I think 325/day is going to give the same effect and not tear your stomach to bits...among the many other potential negatives. Here is a bit of info I have found...most is like this that I find:
Low dose Aspirin
With chronic (regular) use, very little aspirin is needed to alter prostaglandin levels. It is true that energy expenditure studies have used full-strength aspirin, but I think it is unwise to take a full-strength aspirin three times a day. Chronic use of high dose aspirin causes too many side effects (3). Take one 81 mg enteric-coated aspirin with breakfast. Unlike aspirin, the side effects of ephedrine subside with regular use (1, 2).
Of course, taking huge doses of ANY drug for recreational purposes is a dangerous endeavor but, when used sensibly, ephedrine (ma huang) has an impressive safety record dating back thousands of years. On the other hand, regular use of aspirin is known to increase the risk of hemorrhagic stroke (3). In addition, people with abdominal obesity are twice as likely to have a heart attack or stroke (4). Sleep apnea and snoring, which is common among the obese, is associated with an increased risk of stroke (5). Low potassium levels (common among dieters) also increase ones risk of having a stroke. In fact, it has been shown that a high intake of potassium can reduce the risk of stroke by 40 percent (6). Wow! Tragically, rather than confuse the issue with facts, grandstanding politicians and the media blame ephedrine and the FDA imposes drastic limitations on the amount of potassium allowed in supplements.
Department of Physiology, Centre Medical Universitaire, Geneva, Switzerland.
The pivotal role of the sympathoadrenal system in the defense of le milieu interieur has, in the last 15 years, been extended to include the fat stores-a notion that forms the basis of current strategies for thermogenic stimulation in obesity therapy. The search for effective and safe sympathetic stimulants has been directed at two main levels: (i) the development of novel beta-agonists selective for thermogenesis, and (ii) the evaluation of drugs already in clinical use for other purposes (e.g. ephedrine) which could conceivably increase the release of catecholamines to levels that enhance thermogenesis without significant cardiovascular effects. A re-direction of these strategies seem inevitable because at therapeutic doses, the thermogenic effects of these sympathomimetics seem to be considerably dampened by negative feedback mechanisms that operate both extracellularly (e.g. via adenosine & prostaglandins) as well as inside the cells (via cAMP phosphodiesterases). Such a contention is supported by studies both in man and in animals showing that methylxanthines and aspirin, drugs known to be capable of interfering with these modulators, potentiate the thermogenic effects of ephedrine. Future research aimed at clarifying the types and subtypes of these negative modulators of sympathomimetic-induced thermogenesis and their targeting by more selective antagonists would no doubt be pivotal in providing the safe drug combination with the necessary thermogenic properties to assist the management of obesity.
So I say 25/200/100 3 x a day is the safest/ most effective way for us to go.
JMHO,
D
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