understood. realized that. :-) just it is funny to hear about until it starts to get to the point where you get worried, then you have to talk to people about it, then you go see a pharmacist at the drug store, then it keeps up and you have to go tell a nice female doctor who gets to place her hand all around below your waste feeling for an obstruction (not all bad). Anyway it can be serious, I had to see the doctor once and made some permanent eating changes and smooth sailing from then on. It's amazing how much damage you can do to your body when you are a kid eating no fiber and then struggling to go to the bathroom, payback time down the road.