Cigars

[arthurb999]

How bad do you think smoking a cigar and drinking a glass or two of wine or brandy on a weekend night really is (say twice a month). How much could that really effect any gains or just general health?

[juicehoe]

moderation is the key to most things (well besides crack use lol)

[decadbal]

not bad at all, but small habits lead to big ones bro..

[decadbal]

not bad at all, but small habits lead to big ones bro..

[Bcrown1]

I don't think it would be that big of a deal if it's only every once in a while and in moderation.

[Spoon]

thats nothing bro! i go out to get drunk once a week and im fine

[Swellin]

thats nothing bro! i go out to get drunk once a week and im fine

While you may be just fine, it has to be hindering your gains. Think of how much "finer" you would be if you cut out that crap.

If you use these vices in moderation (as you mentioned), they might actually be somewhat beneficial from the standpoint of relieving stress. A good cigar puts me at ease. I smoke 4-5 a year right now. I use to smoke them by the box, but that was certainly not in my health's best interest.

[Spoon]

While you may be just fine, it has to be hindering your gains. Think of how much "finer" you would be if you cut out that crap.

If you use these vices in moderation (as you mentioned), they might actually be somewhat beneficial from the standpoint of relieving stress. A good cigar puts me at ease. I smoke 4-5 a year right now. I use to smoke them by the box, but that was certainly not in my health's best interest.

im a social animal and its nice to hang out with buds i try to moderate but sometimes i just go with the flow. last night i drank tons, today i feel tired/ appetite gone and weak..my fault but well worth it moderation is the key, i aint as crazy as i used to be. but i have fun once in awhile

[floyd_turbo]

How bad do you think smoking a cigar and drinking a glass or two of wine or brandy on a weekend night really is (say twice a month). How much could that really effect any gains or just general health?

not bad at all, try and stick with red wine. twice a month is nothing to worry about with respect to gains. if it was 2-3 times a week then different story. a lot of alcohol is empty carbs. but i found i was the same way, conscientious, so i just try and hit AM cardio after a night like that. helps makes things right in my head but its really minor comparable to some bro's who on their cheat days eat piles and piles of ****