HCG - How important is it?

[gbrice75]

I'm pretty certain of the answer, but i'll ask anyway. Once mixed with bact water, is there ANY storage alternative other than refrigeration? The problem is I am running this cycle without the wife's knowledge (and blessing, obviously) and storing it in the fridge is going to be tricky. I have a 2nd fridge in my garage that she rarely if ever goes into, so I at least have that in my corner.

[gbrice75]

Bump.

I finally got my HCG today. 5000iu, and I have 30ml bact water. Somebody tell me if I have my math right please!

I plan to do 250iu 2x weekly for 8 weeks. I'm going to mix the 5000iu HCG w/ 2ml water, then fill (20) slin pins up to the '10' mark. I'll use (16) of them although I might increase dosage to 500iu 2x weekly towards the end of the cycle and wind up using all 20.

Do I have my math figured right? Sorry guys, this is coming from an idiot who JUST passed math with 70's...

[rockinred]

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I finally got my HCG today. 5000iu, and I have 30ml bact water. Somebody tell me if I have my math right please!

I plan to do 250iu 2x weekly for 8 weeks. I'm going to mix the 5000iu HCG w/ 2ml water, then fill (20) slin pins up to the '10' mark. I'll use (16) of them although I might increase dosage to 500iu 2x weekly towards the end of the cycle and wind up using all 20.

Do I have my math figured right? Sorry guys, this is coming from an idiot who JUST passed math with 70's...

I would run the 5000iu with 10ml of bac water to get a concentration of 1ml=500iu. Then do 1/2ml slin pins to get the 250iu twice a week. Watch for the water retention. Don't forget to keep refrigerated after you mix too. I forgot the refrigeration life once its refrigerated, but I think you will be safe for the 8 weeks. Might want to double check that though. I keep the number whole and round. Your ratio seems higher if you mix only 2mls of water with 5000iu's.

[Swifto]

I would run the 5000iu with 10ml of bac water to get a concentration of 1ml=500iu. Then do 1/2ml slin pins to get the 250iu twice a week. Watch for the water retention. Don't forget to keep refrigerated after you mix too. I forgot the refrigeration life once its refrigerated, but I think you will be safe for the 8 weeks. Might want to double check that though. I keep the number whole and round. Your ratio seems higher if you mix only 2mls of water with 5000iu's.

Thats what I do.

Dont know of any other storage way, only refridgeration.

[smallnutz]

If someone could help I looked on ar-r and cudnt find hcg?

[gbrice75]

^^^ thx guys. I'll need to buy a 10ml vial to mix in for this, and I JUST placed an order with AR-R today for slin pins... another $8 for shipping for 1 effing vial, grrrr!!!!

[jelly]

^^^ thx guys. I'll need to buy a 10ml vial to mix in for this, and I JUST placed an order with AR-R today for slin pins... another $8 for shipping for 1 effing vial, grrrr!!!!

I always mix 5000iu with 5ml of bac. water. It makes the math much easier. When you do this proportion and fill a 1ml (1cc) slin syringe all the way it will be holding 1000iu at the 100 mark, 500iu at the 50 mark, and 250iu at the 25 mark. As an example lets say you wanted 150iu, you would simply fill the slin needle to the 15 mark. MUCH easier this way.

If you bought a 1000iu package you would mix it with 1ml bac. water. If you bought a 5,000iu package you would mix it with 5ml bac. water. If you bought a 10,000iu package you would mix it with 10ml bac. water. ...and so on... In doing this you would have the same iu/ml concentration as stated previously (1000iu/ml).

Take it from me, I have a science degree. This formula for mixing HCG is much simpler.

[UnderTheRose]

Ok...I have read thread from front to back and i "believe" ive got the right idea....please correct if wrong.

5000iu HCG mixed in 5ml Bac Water for the simple conversion.

Pin .25 2x week, product will yield 20 pins-10 weeks of use.

Is my math correct? Will i be pinning in the abdomen with an insulin pin?

Thanks for the Info Swifto

[Swifto]

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[Biker84]

Is it required to refrigerated hcg? I only ask cause it would be very difficult to hide it from my wife. Sorry if that is a stupid question

[BigBadWolf]

Is it required to refrigerated hcg? I only ask cause it would be very difficult to hide it from my wife. Sorry if that is a stupid question

Its Required if you want it to work.

[Biker84]

Its Required if you want it to work.

Point taken...lol.

[Ben_66]

Bump, A lot of people asking about HCG. I was one of them, this post has solved my HCG confusion. Thank you Swifto

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this should have been made sticky the day it was written.

[Tim14]

Any idea what the best site to purchase some HCG from would be? Would like to be sure im getting the real thing.

[BigBadWolf]

Any idea what the best site to purchase some HCG from would be? Would like to be sure im getting the real thing.

Can't ask that.

[Trying-Hard]

Hey Swifto. GREAT read. Your thread coupled with some advice from the other veterans motivated me to get HCG last night. =)

I read your entire (almost) thread and have some questions if you don't mind. Just as a little background.... I am 30, 1st cycle, 5'7@183 lbs, 12-13%. I am taking 500mg/wk of test cyp split on Mon / Thr for 12 weeks. I am finishing week 2 tomorrow with 10 weeks left. I want to start using HCG immediately. Here are my questions.

1) Some of your older posts in 2009 stated that as a first timer, you recommend 500IU 2-3x/wk and then taper down to 250IUs 2-3x/wk. Is this still your take on it till this day? Or would 250IU on test injection days be ok for my remainder of the 10 weeks? HCG would be injected separately - Subq, not IM.

2) If an HCG dose is going to be missed, how would you dose it? For example, I am going to miss Monday’s injection of test and HCG (8/27) but I will be back on Thursday (8/30) Knowing that, how would you dose the HCG? Double up on it on Thursday, the week prior? Just skip the dose and just start at the normal dose upon coming back? etc.

3) Lastly, if there are not any sign of testicular atrophy, would you still recommend to take HCG regardless? I am assuming by reading your previous posts that the answer is YES, but I would like to confirm.

Thanks bro, I appreciate your knowledge and advice giving to the noobs such as myself..

[Swifto]

Hey Swifto. GREAT read. Your thread coupled with some advice from the other veterans motivated me to get HCG last night. =)

I read your entire (almost) thread and have some questions if you don't mind. Just as a little background.... I am 30, 1st cycle, 5'7@183 lbs, 12-13%. I am taking 500mg/wk of test cyp split on Mon / Thr for 12 weeks. I am finishing week 2 tomorrow with 10 weeks left. I want to start using HCG immediately. Here are my questions.

1) Some of your older posts in 2009 stated that as a first timer, you recommend 500IU 2-3x/wk and then taper down to 250IUs 2-3x/wk. Is this still your take on it till this day? Or would 250IU on test injection days be ok for my remainder of the 10 weeks? HCG would be injected separately - Subq, not IM.

250-500ius administered every 4 days. Double the HCG for the final 4 shots lading to PCT. Make sure your last HCG shot is 4-5 days away from PCT.

HCG - sub-q.

I inject the HCG 2 days after the Test shot (Enan).

2) If an HCG dose is going to be missed, how would you dose it? For example, I am going to miss Monday’s injection of test and HCG (8/27) but I will be back on Thursday (8/30) Knowing that, how would you dose the HCG? Double up on it on Thursday, the week prior? Just skip the dose and just start at the normal dose upon coming back? etc.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, but you could double the dose if you want to next shot if missed.

3) Lastly, if there are not any sign of testicular atrophy, would you still recommend to take HCG regardless? I am assuming by reading your previous posts that the answer is YES, but I would like to confirm.

YES

Thanks bro, I appreciate your knowledge and advice giving to the noobs such as myself..

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[Trying-Hard]

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[Swifto]

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[GymRat96744]

Hey guys please correct me if im wrong but if i mix my 5000iu HCG with 10mL of bacteriostatic water then that would make the mixed HCG 500iu in 1ML. I understansd that it only has a shelf life of 45 days once mixed. But if i dose it at 250iu twice a week that would be 500iu a week. It would take me 70 days to finish my 10mL vial of HCG. Would the HCG be no good after 45 days? This is my first time using HCG so just trying to cover every angle. thanks guys.

[GymRat96744]

could you i also get the best mixing calculations for 250iu twice a week if i decide to preload syringes as i think it might be easier. thanks for all the help guys. really appreciate it.

[Lazarov]

Test E 500mg weeks 1-12
Arimidex .25mg ED weeks 1-13
HCG 500mg/week weeks 2-13

PCT- Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20

A lot of this has been adjusted due to what I've learned on this thread.
Thanks Swifto.
And is Nolva sufficient for PCT, should I add Clomid? Or not really necessary. Thanks.

[Back In Black]

Test E 500mg weeks 1-12
Arimidex .25mg ED weeks 1-13
HCG 500mg/week weeks 2-13

PCT- Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20

A lot of this has been adjusted due to what I've learned on this thread.
Thanks Swifto.
And is Nolva sufficient for PCT, should I add Clomid? Or not really necessary. Thanks.

Please don't entertain this 21 year old who has been repeatedly told and keeps jumping threads to try and get just one person to tell him everything is ok!

[MuscleInk]

Please don't entertain this 21 year old who has been repeatedly told and keeps jumping threads to try and get just one person to tell him everything is ok!

Thanks SteM.

[dec11]

i really hope that some ppl arent having the attitude of, 'oh if i use hcg, im golden', big mistake, i used it extensively and it did sod all for me. still ended up on trt after only 6 cycles. food for thought and testament to, 'does hcg even work anywhere near the way its supposed to, for this purpose'?

[dec11]

Please don't entertain this 21 year old who has been repeatedly told and keeps jumping threads to try and get just one person to tell him everything is ok!

yeah, noticed the little brat......

[Lazarov]

I have a similar concern as GymRat. If I mix the 5000iu vile of HCG, that should last me 70 days. Should we just throw the mixture away and make another for the second half of the cycle?

[mhswhite500]

I realize this thread is sort of old, but hopefully Swifto can give me some insight here. I am running a cycle in the start of december, so I am making sure that I have everything lined up correctly.

I am definitely going to use HCG for this cycle because last time I ran a similar cycle I was depressed as a mo fo. I am running test prop, tbol (for start), primo, and anavar. Arimidex will be used at .5mg ed. I have my pct and cycle lined up here, but I am here to ask on how much HCG I should use?

Since I am using relatively fast acting gear should I pin right away? Or can I wait a few weeks into the cycle and then continue it the whole way? Or just till week 9 or 10 at 200ius 2xweek. I am running a 12 week cycle.

[3day]

Bump! For happy gonads everywhere

[mhswhite500]

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[RyanGreg]

Swifto a few Q's.....

1) Im running a 16 week cycle....Will 10 weeks of HCG dosed at 250iu 2x per week be fine for my cycle?

16 weeks test propionate 50mg ED
16 weeks Aromasin 12.5mg ED
14 weeks Masteron 100mg ED
12 weeks Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ED
12 weeks Cabergoline 0.5mg 2x per week
10 weeks HCG 250iu 2x per week
8 weeks Clenbuterol 40/80/120mcg ED (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) (supplementing with potassium and taurine while on)

PCT:

4 weeks Armoasin 12.5mg ED
4 weeks Clomid 50/50/25/25
4 weeks Unleashed/post cycle
6 weeks DAA 6g ED
6 weeks Maca 4g ED
6 weeks Tribulus 2.5g ED

2) Can i put HCG in the same syringe as test/mast/tren?

3) What do you think about the supplement HCGenerate?.... Will i benefit from adding this for on cycle support as well?

thank you very much for your time.....

[olympia2022]

Swifto a few Q's.....

1) Im running a 16 week cycle....Will 10 weeks of HCG dosed at 250iu 2x per week be fine for my cycle?

2) Can i put HCG in the same syringe as test/mast/tren?

3) What do you think about the supplement HCGenerate?.... Will i benefit from adding this for on cycle support as well?

thank you very much for your time.....

1) I would do it every other day at 200-250 iu and yes the last 10 weeks should be fine. Half life of hcg is 48 hrs...

2) Yeah you can mix it but I would rather put it in subq because it's meant to be injected into fat and not muscle. Also subq is a lot easier in my experience and since you're doing it eod, your normal pins are not eod.

3) Can't help u on this one, never heard of it.

I realize i'm not the guy you originally asked but I answered 2/3 lol.

[Karan0077]

ohh. thats sad. can you help me with this aust?

[austinite]

ohh. thats sad. can you help me with this aust?

Not sad at all really. Good riddance. He scammed our members.

This should answer all hCG related questions... if not, post your question there.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

[allessa]

in a cycle of 16 weeks of test enant. can I start hcg from the tenth week? we say to 500iu week? or should I start first?

[austinite]

in a cycle of 16 weeks of test enant. can I start hcg from the tenth week? we say to 500iu week? or should I start first?

hCG for entire cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

[AverageGymRat]

I wish I could run HCG but if my gf found out it was at the fridge, she would break up with me, I can tell. She is very anti drug. Idk what to do.

[austinite]

I wish I could run HCG but if my gf found out it was at the fridge, she would break up with me, I can tell. She is very anti drug. Idk what to do.

Well, please stop bumping several threads with the same question. Not knowing what to do about your girlfriend is not something anyone is really concerned with. That is for you to figure out.