10 weeks of Fina, and I'm glad it's over.

[lilchef14]

how painfull was the shots everyday though. my bud is on a prop cyp. and EQ cycle and he says the shots hurt like hell. but i guess it does vary from person to person. Would doing it every day affect my results, i know the shot would be smaller. so would i run a 100mL. prop a day and 50mL. of tren. then 50mL. of winny a day when i start it

[BUYLONGTERM]

how painfull was the shots everyday though. my bud is on a prop cyp. and EQ cycle and he says the shots hurt like hell. but i guess it does vary from person to person. Would doing it every day affect my results, i know the shot would be smaller. so would i run a 100mL. prop a day and 50mL. of tren. then 50mL. of winny a day when i start it

Painful? Depends on the person and depends on the brand your using. I started my cycle with SL Prop and thought it was a bit painful in the beginning, it was mostly pain free!! I rarely get pain from anything I shoot. I honestly think you would be MUCH happier shooting it ED. Most VETS and MODS will say the same thing.

[lilchef14]

So if i bumped up my test to 200mL. and keeped the tren at 100ml. then it will keep the edgyness down and the night sweats

[BUYLONGTERM]

So if i bumped up my test to 200mL. and keeped the tren at 100ml. then it will keep the edgyness down and the night sweats

Per day???? I hope not!!!! You still will get the side effects from Tren. There is NO way around it. But, the more you keep your levels stable, the better off your going to be! I don't recommend anyone doing TREN unless they have many cycles under there belt.

[lilchef14]

woops, didnt mean to post it twice. I have mourning star labs prop. im not sure what kind of tren and winny im gona get from my guy. i will have to see. ok, thanx for the advice man. I think i will do shots everyday. Oh, well how painfull would it be to pin myself like in the traps or the delts. cause if i have to pin myself everyday then ill have to rotate alot.

[BUYLONGTERM]

woops, didnt mean to post it twice. I have mourning star labs prop. im not sure what kind of tren and winny im gona get from my guy. i will have to see. ok, thanx for the advice man. I think i will do shots everyday. Oh, well how painfull would it be to pin myself like in the traps or the delts. cause if i have to pin myself everyday then ill have to rotate alot.

Best places for me to inject are:

(i'd stay away from traps unless you've done them before)

QUADS - 23g 1inch pin
GLUTES - 23g" 1 1/2" pin
DELTS - 23g 1inch pin

[PlasticFuture112]

Word!!!

[BUYLONGTERM]

I'm at the point where I look forward to injecting ED!!! And this is coming from someone who used to look at a needle and faint!!!!

[toolman]

I'm at the point where I look forward to injecting ED!!! And this is coming from someone who used to look at a needle and faint!!!!

Lol...alot of us converts like that.

Did you have a bad acne problem as one of your sides?

[BUYLONGTERM]

Lol...alot of us converts like that.

Did you have a bad acne problem as one of your sides?

So far, no acne. I was thinking I'd get some when I quit, but so far so good. I usually only get acne once I completely stop my cycle...

[lilchef14]

lol, ok. the high dosage was for the eod. the needles dont bother me, its just i want to be able to function with all these shots.

[Dimes]

Being honest is the best option, my gf is the one that injects me, most of them wont agree, but they will not dump you for that, especially if they love you, if they don't they'll leave you and you will be better off because you will know it just wasnt meant to be.

[lilchef14]

I feel ya man. my woman was pissed that i was gona do it. but she is coming around to the idea. she even wants to do my shots. i know she would have left me if i didnt tell her i was going to do it.

[PlasticFuture112]

I love the honest AAS users to their GF's...not to steal another thread or anything but if you got a girlfriend and you love her, TELL HER!! dont lie about it cuz you know she gonna find out anyway. then she will have the right to leave your ass cuz AAS isnt something to fool or lie about to loved ones. Just everybody ELSE!!!

[lilchef14]

i totally agree man, i love woman so much. im not gona lie to her, if anything im gona need support about this. keeping it from someone u care about is a bad move. mine was pissed at first, just because she doesnt understand what AS is. i am teaching her, but because she isnt lifting, and dont have the same goals as i do, its taking her longer to accept all the info.

[DoctaBig]

hey Blt, I totally hear ya on the being a complete prick side effect. Just out of curiosity though, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have trouble w/ mood fluctuation also. For me at least it seems like a roller coaster ride, one second im a total arrogant prick and the next i feel like crying (hold the jokes ). I'm typically an uber stable person too, off cycle people joke around about how my mood never changes, but on tren....dayum, i feel like im on 300mg of clomid a day.

[BUYLONGTERM]

hey Blt, I totally hear ya on the being a complete prick side effect. Just out of curiosity though, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have trouble w/ mood fluctuation also. For me at least it seems like a roller coaster ride, one second im a total arrogant prick and the next i feel like crying (hold the jokes ). I'm typically an uber stable person too, off cycle people joke around about how my mood never changes, but on tren....dayum, i feel like im on 300mg of clomid a day.

Yes, you said it perfect. Man, was I moody. I would watch a **** commercial and I felt like crying.

[psb]

hey Blt, I totally hear ya on the being a complete prick side effect. Just out of curiosity though, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have trouble w/ mood fluctuation also. For me at least it seems like a roller coaster ride, one second im a total arrogant prick and the next i feel like crying (hold the jokes ). I'm typically an uber stable person too, off cycle people joke around about how my mood never changes, but on tren....dayum, i feel like im on 300mg of clomid a day.

i've been getting the up and down effect on tren lately as well. this is my first cycle, and i've been dreading the clomid when i finally get to it. man i hope this is all i'll have to deal with. the way people describe clomid depression makes you think about doing all nolva pct. the mood swings have been bad but not uncontrollable.

[DoctaBig]

Well bro, i dunno if this helps, but the mood swings/depression have been WAYY worse for me on tren than they ever were on clomid. Clomid had its days, but this tren is relentless. I must confess however that during my previous cycle pct my life was pretty ok...meaning no major issues. But this cycle for some reason has been completely different. While on tren i have been through two pretty serious breakups w/ girlfriends and it has been complete hell. Typically im the kinda guy that just shakes off a breakup, but not on tren....definatly not on tren!!!! Hopefully the clomid doesnt compound the problem.

anyway. keep us posted on how things work out when you jump on the pct bus, and make sure you do the clomid pct not just nolva....You'll handle it just fine especially if your doing ok on tren.

BTW....Do you have a few week buffer between stoping the tren and starting the pct???? if you coast for a few weeks on just prop it makes the come down wayyyyyy better....

i've been getting the up and down effect on tren lately as well. this is my first cycle, and i've been dreading the clomid when i finally get to it. man i hope this is all i'll have to deal with. the way people describe clomid depression makes you think about doing all nolva pct. the mood swings have been bad but not uncontrollable.

[kman]

My girl is brewing some fina for me as we speak....I think that is being open and honest....man I am a lucky bastard....lol.......

[johnsomebody]

Hey BLT, whassup? I'm wondering if you made good gains on your cycle this time and if it was worth it.

[BUYLONGTERM]

Hey BLT, whassup? I'm wondering if you made good gains on your cycle this time and if it was worth it.

In terms of weight, I don't even check anymore. In terms of strength....It's through the roof!!!!!!! My cycle isn't over. I just ended the Fina part of it. I have several more weeks of EQ and TEST!!! (might even throw in some VAR).

Hope all is well,

BLT