Originally Posted by man-g
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Wrong!
You are supposed to use test for 10-12 weeks and dbol for the first 4 as a kickstart to your cycle.
Dbol is not all that bad if even steroid.com mention's using it along side other injectables at the beginning of a clcle as described here http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php
I alsways laugh when someone says dbol is shit in one thread but yet in another thread they will say to take it with test.
Dbol only cycles work just the same as a Dbol and Test cycle. You will gain a lot of water weight on either cycle in the beginning and flush 50-75% of it away when done with dbol.
Test E usually takes 3-4 weeks to start working, so by the time you are finished taking dbol after 4 weeks, your test will have kicked in and as you gain quality muscle from the test E you will also lose water weight from the dbol.
Dbol is somewhat a waste if you run it alone and really does not need to be used at all even with test unless you just want some quick encouraging results while you wait for the test to start working.
I have used dbol only before (as many of you know). I also had good quick resluts from it too gaining over 20lbs when finished and keeping 10 3 months later.
My take on dbol is that it does make you stronger while on it which in turn will make you lift heavier weights which in that will make you gain muscle alongside with lifting properly, good rest and a good diet. All other weight gained on dbol is really just water so when you quit taking dbol, what is left is the muscle from the heavy lifting.


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