Lance Armstrong vs Micheal Jordan

**scriptfactory** · 07-10-2006, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Katelette81

Puhleeze, you just don't like the fact that I raise a good argument. MJ is a good athlete... but don't put him up against someone like Lance..

That is the biggest load of bull ever. Lance has EPO enhanced endurance. That's it! An athlete also needs explosiveness, hand-eye coordination, and strength/power to be considered "better". If you took some major sports like:

1) Sprinting
2) American Football
3) Soccer/Football
4) Swimming
5) Throwing stuff (like javelins or shot puts)
6) Weight-lifting / Powerlifting

Who do you honestly think would win? Lance might win swimming, maybe...

**1819** · 07-10-2006, 07:50 AM

i thought i stay out of this but...the fair comparisons should be with the 4 major sports, and even throw in boxing, ufc etc... maybe compare lance to say a gymnast or a tennis player. ive seen male gymnasts who could do things that none of us could do but i dont think they could be compared to mike tyson. andre aggasi(spelling) can not be compared to wayne gretzky. i could not ride a bike the way armstrong can. actually not even close. and of course i think the guy is a stud but i spent my life playing and coaching pro hockey and i look at the athletes ive played with and against and im sorry, he's not even in the same league. yes he dominated his sport but bike riding compared to the nba? no way. hard work, dedication to anything is awesome. thats why i love this site. but i think its apples and oranges here.

**biglouie250** · 07-10-2006, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

That is the biggest load of bull ever. Lance has EPO enhanced endurance. That's it!

allegedly.

dont beleive the french rags. seeing the world cup final, you know they have 0 class.

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

That is the biggest load of bull ever. Lance has EPO enhanced endurance. That's it! An athlete also needs explosiveness, hand-eye coordination, and strength/power to be considered "better". If you took some major sports like:

1) Sprinting
2) American Football
3) Soccer/Football
4) Swimming
5) Throwing stuff (like javelins or shot puts)
6) Weight-lifting / Powerlifting

Who do you honestly think would win? Lance might win swimming, maybe...

I think MJ has a physical advantage... oh, other than the fact that he's getting on in age... I just don't think that cycling should be dismissed as a quality sport that incvolves exceptional ATHLETES... you have to consider not only the physical aspect but the tactical plays, the strategy etc etc as I've previously mentioned. It's not just riding a bike... dont' be so daft about this sport people..

**Just t** · 07-10-2006, 07:54 AM

Lance armstrong wins hands down in my books! I dont see how anyone can choose mj over him! Lance is an extrodaniry human being mj is too obviously but not in the same league as lance!

**scriptfactory** · 07-10-2006, 07:55 AM

I think there should have been a clear-cut definition of athlete, such as dominant specialized athlete or more athletically gifted or whatever.

**Carlos_E** · 07-10-2006, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Katelette81

Puhleeze, you just don't like the fact that I raise a good argument. MJ is a good athlete... but don't put him up against someone like Lance..

**Just t** · 07-10-2006, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Two dif sports. How can you compare the two? I'd say they're both good athletes even though I don't think much of a guy who rides a bike for a living. But whatever.

and you think highly of a guy who throws a ball for a living?

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 08:14 AM

Wow.... I cna't believe that on a site like this anyone could be so close minded about a sport such as Le Tour de France. Recognize greatness when you see it... it is apples and oranges.. interesting to compare them though.

**biglouie250** · 07-10-2006, 08:26 AM

basketball = skilled sport

cycling = straight endurance

hard to compare the athletes who compete in them. and besides, since when is basketball or cycling for that matter a sport??

**Pooks** · 07-10-2006, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Katelette81

Puhleeze, you just don't like the fact that I raise a good argument. MJ is a good athlete... but don't put him up against someone like Lance..

If u were to put Michael Jordan upagainst Lance.. Lance would piss his pants.

Michael Jordan, dominated a truely global sport. he is considered the best that ever played that sport.

Lance competes in a mostly european sport, and that even most people in Europe don't try to compete at.

I'm White myself, but even i can see that one sport Basketball is a truely Multicultural Sport that spans continents, where the other Cycling, is a Hobby, that only a few take up, and than they compete to see who is the best at it.

PLUS THE DRUG ABUSE EPO, STEROIDS ETC IN CYCLING IS SICKENING!
Maybe they havent caught LANCE red handed yet, like they did his main rivals this year, but in my book I lost all respect for him. Don't call me a hypocrite, I'm not someone millions of kidz look up to.

If I had a kid.. He'll have a MJ poster hanging on the wall. Not Lance the doper.

**Carlos_E** · 07-10-2006, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Just t

and you think highly of a guy who throws a ball for a living?

Yes I do. I can ride a bike. I can't play basketball.

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Pooks

If u were to put Michael Jordan upagainst Lance.. Lance would piss his pants.

Michael Jordan, dominated a truely global sport. he is considered the best that ever played that sport.

Lance competes in a mostly european sport, and that even most people in Europe don't try to compete at.

I'm White myself, but even i can see that one sport Basketball is a truely Multicultural Sport that spans continents, where the other Cycling, is a Hobby, that only a few take up, and than they compete to see who is the best at it.

PLUS THE DRUG ABUSE EPO, STEROIDS ETC IN CYCLING IS SICKENING!
Maybe they havent caught LANCE red handed yet, like they did his main rivals this year, but in my book I lost all respect for him. Don't call me a hypocrite, I'm not someone millions of kidz look up to.

If I had a kid.. He'll have a MJ poster hanging on the wall. Not Lance the doper.

I'm not going to dignify this with an answer... everyone is welcome to their opinion. But drug abuse is everywhere and if you think basketball is clean then you've got some seriousl wool over your eyes..

**biglouie250** · 07-10-2006, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Pooks

If u were to put Michael Jordan upagainst Lance.. Lance would piss his pants.

Michael Jordan, dominated a truely global sport. he is considered the best that ever played that sport.

Lance competes in a mostly european sport, and that even most people in Europe don't try to compete at.

I'm White myself, but even i can see that one sport Basketball is a truely Multicultural Sport that spans continents, where the other Cycling, is a Hobby, that only a few take up, and than they compete to see who is the best at it.

PLUS THE DRUG ABUSE EPO, STEROIDS ETC IN CYCLING IS SICKENING!
Maybe they havent caught LANCE red handed yet, like they did his main rivals this year, but in my book I lost all respect for him. Don't call me a hypocrite, I'm not someone millions of kidz look up to.

If I had a kid.. He'll have a MJ poster hanging on the wall. Not Lance the doper.

cmon man, nothing proven yet. and to pass judgement either way when we are on a steroid board is being a hypocrite. basketball is more global then cycling? thats open for debate lol!!! only in the last 15 years has baketball taken on a global feel.

and i dont see how you can call basketball a sport and cycling not. personally i think they can be hard to do at their respective levels, but neither is a sport! when you can foul and foul at the end of a game and make the last 30 seconds of a game a foul shooting contest that isnt a sport. also when you cant so much at look at someone without a foul being called thats not a sport. MJ was awesome and there maybe no other athlete that thrived in pressure spots better. the thing is, lance never needed to make a comeback or a last second victory because he was so far ahead of his peers.

**Just t** · 07-10-2006, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Yes I do. I can ride a bike. I can't play basketball.

you cant throw a ball?

**Carlos_E** · 07-10-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Just t

you cant throw a ball?

How many ways can I say I do not know how to play basketball? There is a reason I was a gymnast growing up. I can't catch for shit. I can't play baseball either. But I know how to ride a bike.

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

But I know how to ride a bike.

Not like Lance ... lol. I'm just foolin with ya...

**scriptfactory** · 07-10-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

How many ways can I say I do not know how to play basketball. There is a reason I was a gymnast growing up. I can't catch for shit. I can't play baseball either. But I know how to ride a bike.

I was about to make a joke about catching balls but decided it would be in poor taste.

You're cool, Carlos!

**Carlos_E** · 07-10-2006, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

I was about to make a joke about catching balls but decided it would be in poor taste.

You're cool, Carlos!

And I could make a joke about what my balls would be doing but it would be in even poorer taste.

**JohnboyF** · 07-10-2006, 12:35 PM

MJ is a good athlete.. But lance is a way better. His cardio conditioning is through the roof. Dont get be wrong b-ball players are good atheltes as well. I use to play bball last year for my university but there diets aren't the best. In the off-season. Jordan is the best basketball player but he cant touch Lance armstrong. Football players esp Tight ends and Running backs are way better athletes than Basketball players IMO.

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 01:17 PM

I have always wondered what the guys nads feel like after a day of riding though... that mustget pretty rough... LOL

**scriptfactory** · 07-10-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Katelette81

I have always wondered what the guys nads feel like after a day of riding though... that mustget pretty rough... LOL

That's why Lance was so dominant! He could just tuck his one nut off to the side!

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by scriptfactory

That's why Lance was so dominant! He could just tuck his one nut off to the side!

LOL... does he even have the one? I thought both had to go...

He should get nudicals...

**JohnboyF** · 07-10-2006, 01:31 PM

You guys.. Are mean.... That was a low blow....... Wait does that count???

Ahh damn it i joined you 2!!!

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 01:34 PM

Not mean at all.. the fact is, well... that's an issue for him. He's still more man than a lot of guys out there... nads or sans nads...

**1819** · 07-10-2006, 01:37 PM

while he's riding along they should make him throw papers in a mailbox or something. then people would watch.

**JohnboyF** · 07-10-2006, 01:38 PM

Me personally i lean forward when im using the bike so my bum is kinda on the edge just enough so the boys are not on the seat. Just for your info Kate.!

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 01:39 PM

I watch everyday... I don't miss one moment... you never know when someones gonna make a move or theres gonna be an accident... the sprints are cool to watch too

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by FaizakaFez

Me personally i lean forward when im using the bike so my bum is kinda on the edge just enough so the boys are not on the seat. Just for your info Kate.!

I'm gonna take up spinning... I'll take a bike at the back so I can see how teh men handle it.. LOL.

Glad to hear your boys are safe!

**1819** · 07-10-2006, 01:41 PM

actually those guys have us all beat. they get to sit on their a** all day and still be in fantastic shape.

**JohnboyF** · 07-10-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Katelette81

I watch everyday... I don't miss one moment... you never know when someones gonna make a move or theres gonna be an accident... the sprints are cool to watch too

Really? I'm a sports fanatic but cycling is one sport i cant watch. I watch the highlights thats about it. I got up at 9 yesterday to watch Federrer win!!!! yes...

**Katelette81** · 07-10-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by FaizakaFez

Really? I'm a sports fanatic but cycling is one sport i cant watch. I watch the highlights thats about it. I got up at 9 yesterday to watch Federrer win!!!! yes...

Yes.. that was a pretty sweet win... i watch at night, from 8-11. Nice way to unwind the day.. I like watching Robbie McEwen..

**J.S.N.** · 07-10-2006, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by MrMent1on

ITS CALLED EPO

lol i'm about 110% sure lance used various doping methods, as his personal doctor was dr. ferrari through 2004 but that isn't what made him so dominant. look at all the guys just thrown out of the tour. many of them are nobodies. also EPO increases your hemocrit levels, but it doesn't change your lactate threshold.

**ect0m0rph** · 07-10-2006, 03:42 PM

They both show attrbutes of a good athlete, Jordan is strong, quick and can jump through the roof while Lance has endurance, will and mental toughness. I give the edge to Armstrong because he came back from cancer he repaired his broken body to world class stature.

**bigpapabuff** · 07-10-2006, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Superhuman

i'd say lance armstrong. Michael is just a big tall guy who knows how to play basketball - sure he's got skills, but you go to any public basketball court and you'll see some undiscovered baller who's as good as if not better than Jordan. Lance Armstrong is a role model for any athlete because of the hard work, discipline, and dedication he has put in. Come on, he had testicular cancer!

This is the most rediculous thing that I have ever heard... ever!

I think that they are both amazing athletes, but I give the edge to Jordan. If you matched the two of them up against eachother in pretty much any sport Jordan would win almost every single one.

If you don't agree with me try and name five sports at which Armstrong could beat Jordan.

**J.S.N.** · 07-10-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by bigpapabuff

This is the most rediculous thing that I have ever heard... ever!

I think that they are both amazing athletes, but I give the edge to Jordan. If you matched the two of them up against eachother in pretty much any sport Jordan would win almost every single one.

If you don't agree with me try and name five sports at which Armstrong could beat Jordan.

baseball for one. j/k that was the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen. lol white chocolate is really a better player than MJ people just don't know it.

**Carlos_E** · 07-10-2006, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by bigpapabuff

This is the most rediculous thing that I have ever heard... ever!

I think that they are both amazing athletes, but I give the edge to Jordan. If you matched the two of them up against eachother in pretty much any sport Jordan would win almost every single one.

If you don't agree with me try and name five sports at which Armstrong could beat Jordan.

1. Ice Skating
2. Croquet
3. Darts
4. Synchronized Swimming
5. Horse Shoes

**Carlos_E** · 07-10-2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by J.S.N.

baseball for one. j/k that was the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen. lol white chocolate is really a better player than MJ people just don't know it.

White chocolate? I don't get it.

**chest6** · 07-10-2006, 04:33 PM

ROFL darts. I died on that one

**J.S.N.** · 07-10-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

White chocolate? I don't get it.

there was this mtv reality show a couple years bacck about street ballers, and the best guy was this ugly ****er who looked like an extra from "star trek: the next generation" called white chocolate.

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