Breaking Point Rant !!

[Mizfit]

How did I know you would have all the answers....lolol Thanks !! I know it si HER choices, but she is weak from her addictions and doesn't think she deserves anything better than she already has so....who knows???......

I've been cheated on and disappoiunted before as well - I never went after the other chick - i just decked him. I felt alot better. It's not the other parties fault, it's the person your talking to or in a relationship iwth.

If they make false promises or don't come thru, regardless od what is going on in their lives or what they chose to blame it on, ultimately it is there decision and their fault.

We are all accountable for our own actions.

[SMAN12b]

I've been cheated on and disappoiunted before as well - I never went after the other chick - i just decked him. I felt alot better. It's not the other parties fault, it's the person your talking to or in a relationship iwth.

If they make false promises or don't come thru, regardless od what is going on in their lives or what they chose to blame it on, ultimately it is there decision and their fault.

We are all accountable for our own actions.

AGREED !

[SMAN12b]

Welcome to the longest response of AR history…




I’m gonna come at this really abrasively, but I want you to understand I wouldn’t do anything or say anything I didn’t truly believe you could handle or even already knew but disillusioned yourself from seeing it.

I believe if I’m soft on you and sugarcoat shit it will leave you in a comfortable spot, however not ultimately solving a damn thing, and wont serve to prevent similar situations from occurring in the future. I can’t ignore the fact that a great deal of your problems are built on a foundation of ideals, which is precisely why they collapsed. Because it wasn’t real cement, I was more like play-dough.

If you ran into a burning house to save a woman and she said you looked like the spitting image of her dead husband and you 2 proceeded to engage in durable life-long and satisfying relationship, that would be called FATE.
Because in the course of FATE you have an essential timeline that defined it to be so. Ie: AFter you've been with her for 10-15 years you can then say "it was fate". But even so it wouldnt be an accurate way of interpreting reality.
So in the future, choose the word “luck”, you met each other through LUCK. But even “luck” is a bad way of looking at it. The best way to interpret it is you met through a random prevalence.
People like words like “fate” because it mystifies the initial encounter, increase emotions, and satisfies a lot of people’s core idealizations of how loves suppose to be. A lot because that’s how society has brainwashed us through books and movies.

Now the “incredible connection”. You’ve already demonstrated this fate outlook which will add to the strength of a perceived connection between 2 people. We know if we think logically however LOVE did not account for the connection. So it was most likely a mix of lust, random prevalence, a few commonalities, and a emotions because the connection occurred in a high state of incertitude. Uncertainty always increases emotions. Which is why men tell each other to keep their woman on their toes. Again if there was any REAL connection besides lust and other factors, anything really bonding that existed, you 2 would no doubt be together right now.



Successful in her career, struggling in her real life. A high degree of contradiction which indicates high potential lack of self-esteem. Red flag was thrown up, you chose to neglect it.



Again more signs she’s not secure, secure woman don’t get involved in relationships outta obligation. Problem is attraction is not a choice. And you cant understand why she chose to be attracted to him. Simple, she DIDN’T. If she’s attracted to him she cant logically think her way out of those emotions. And the fact that he seems a little unstable probably fueled her attraction even more. Woman love guys who create EMOTION for them. It doesn’t always matter whether the emotions are good or bad. A swing of emotions makes people addicted to things, like gambling. The more intense and rapid the change from + to – emotions the more addictive. He may have been a loser but her was probably good at creating drama or emotional situations that kept her stuck on him.

I said she was probably acting out of obligation before but now it becomes a pattern. “ONE MORE CHANCE” = she really still has feelings for him, she’s telling you “I owe it to him” to ease the blow on you instead of saying “I still love him but I want you to hang around and wait for me like a tool” even if she claims other words and tries reverse psychology like “maybe you should move on”.

She demonstrated to you she was hung up on 2 guys. You took advantage of the power of novelty to influence her (gifts, passionate letters, all the new things relationships are born on) However she has demonstrated thoroughly she is EXTREMELY confused, unsure of what she wants, and probably addicted to the DRAMA and EMOTIONS both of you are creating for her by your human game of tug-a-war.

She’s communicating to you your basically a more stable person with goals but at the same time disqualifying you because you two are too *different*. I would have called her out on her BS right at that moment. “Well I can help you make up your mind… peace bitch, im out”. Watch how fvcking fast she comes running back. So its her, her pothead bf, and you a stable person with goals and drives who’s demonstrated your willing to tolerate a certain degree of BS from her now. She verbalizes she cant “feel strong by herself” its time for you guys to spend a week together. At this point your in way too deep. Shes keeping YOU on YOUR toes and not the other way around, your allowing her to set you up for disaster.
You haven’t laid down any rules or boundaries with her.
Your using her confusion to fuel your desire to seduce and conquer her (ignore the choice of words if its offensive)
This is a competition of the Venusians Arts.



At this point she exercises no concern over what she says to you or how it will affect you, shes working to feed and reinforce that *foundation of ideals* she helped create in the beginning, maybe because subconsciously she realizes it will collapse soon if she doesn’t.

But MORE THAN ANYTHING. Your with this woman for HOW LONG??!!
She’s talking about a “life with you” a “future with you” “your house feeling like HER fvcking home??!!!!!”. WTF?!?!?!
I would have kicked her psycho ass out at the second, or apologized for being so blatantly irresponsible and idealistic and leading her on.
YOU NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER start talking about your future with someone you haven’t even REALLY and TRULY even been with yet.
They say “love is blind” well that is true and doesn’t apply here but the quote “lust is blind” does. She pulled the wool over your eyes, you both pulled it over each others eyes.

I am not meaning to anger you, I’m saying take a REALISTIC look at all this shit. Take all your ideals and flush them out the fvcking toilet this second. They are killing you. Your with a confused ass chick who’s been with you for not even a week and shes feeding the shit out of YOUR ego because she doesn’t even have one.






Same idealistic BS as above.




I would have said “well… you have to, now get out” this whole ordeal just sounds so emotionally draining and serious that you guys don’t even joke with each other. Curious if she would have started crying had you said that. It’s a little test I use on secure girls called “sarcasm” the insecure ones cant handle it as simple as it is, the ones who laugh can stay.



She was nervous about HER talking to HIM because she didnt have faith in HERSELF and that idea that she really KNEW what SHE wanted.



Now you see the matrix, all this crap you’ve been telling yourself about this guy like “hes a pothead, hes a piece of shit, etc” YET she wants to be with him.
Why?
First understand it rarely has to do with who the *better person* is.
Because he may be a piece of shit to you, and maybe even her, but she’s responding to emotions she cant control. I’ll conclude at the end..



You say you don’t want to believe she meant any of it. Id be willing to submit she meant more than you expect she did because you are bitter to a degree right now and probably still highly idealistic about the situation like “what if she calls me and wants to persue something? What should I do?”


Understand woman are attracted to emotions. If you can learn how to manufacture not CONSISTENT emotions but INCONSISTENT emotions, you will become the male form of heroin.

This is hard for a lot of people to grasp.

When you give woman gifts and love letters, and than you hang out with her and unquestionably accept everything she says without dispute, like “she wants to be a part of your future” blah blah
You are poisoning the seed of attraction.

How often did you confront her?
Like when you guys talked on the phone for 5 hours and all these wonderful things about your future were brought up, who brought them up? Because I’ll tell you rule number one DO NOT discuss your future with a girl unless your on the minimum of a 10th date with her, and even so discuss only the immediate future like tomorrow. If she brings it up you instantly confront her be real with her, because its not realistic or mature to plan out your future with someone so novel in your life.
I’m trying to refine or clarify a few things that really bothered me.
Its comparable to a woman saying “I love you” after the 3rd or 4th date. In which I’ll respond something along the lines of “you’re an idiot”. How in the **** can you plan anything with someone you haven’t been with for a minimum of a few years? Or even tell you them you love them?
Even when your married to someone for 25 years you STILL don’t really know them like you think you do. All you know is what they choose to show you.
This is why the divorce rate in this country is so high. Because people don’t teach how to love in school, we learn it from movies, the media, and books. We learn it from our parents who read the same books, and watched the same movies, and read the same newspapers.
Its all idealistic bullshit.
And it often takes many people a lifetime of heartache and near suicide before they finally get a realistic grasp of what love really is.

I DID not intend to offend you, or ridicule you. I’m trying to help rid you of certain mindsets, notions and ideals many people have that are the poisonous roots of these flowering love spells that look like tulips and roses initially, than we soon realize they were really dandelions, these little fvcking weeds we chose not to pull out and now they devoured the garden and destroyed everything.

Just next time all I recommend is drop the ideals, and what naturally will happen when you do this is the next time you meet someone your gonna ask yourself “where the fvck is the connection or the spark?”
Its inside the both of you charging, when the static builds and true commonalities are established, it will fired off not as a little random static discharge from your rug to the doorknob, but a bolt of lighting straight between each others hearts.

I sincerely hope some of this helped, because I am a looser and just wasted 45 mins of my Saturday night typing the shit.

Much luck brotha.

~Bo

So now that I already screwed it up with illusions, how do I proceed from here??? IF she would happen to contact me again???? How do I get her back on her Toes instead of me on mine??

[Mizfit]

So now that I already screwed it up with illusions, how do I proceed from here??? IF she would happen to contact me again???? How do I get her back on her Toes instead of me on mine??

U dn't want to.. move on

[SMAN12b]

U dn't want to.. move on

Why is that always easier said than done??? I mean, you are right! I want to be strong enough to just say Fvck It!! But part of me wants the satisfaction of knowing she realizes she screwed up ......oh well.....this too shall pass as with them all.......

[Mizfit]

Why is that always easier said than done??? I mean, you are right! I want to be strong enough to just say Fvck It!! But part of me wants the satisfaction of knowing she realizes she screwed up ......oh well.....this too shall pass as with them all.......

Then the same thing will happen

[SMAN12b]

Then the same thing will happen

Yeah, but why do you have to be right ALL the time.....LOLOL

Do you see her calling at some point though?? If so , do I just ignore it?

[DSM4Life]

Why is that always easier said than done??? I mean, you are right! I want to be strong enough to just say Fvck It!! But part of me wants the satisfaction of knowing she realizes she screwed up ......oh well.....this too shall pass as with them all.......

You want to hurt her the same way she hurt you, that's why you feel what way. I felt like that a lot when i first broke up with my girl. I still think of it here and there. I have finally come to terms that in the long run thats not a nice thing to do and in the end i still love the girl to death. I spent 3 weeks not talking to my X but tonight we are going to see each other which is going to be weird but i dont want it to be. You first need to deal with your feelings, like i said before no talking, texting, emailing for a few weeks to a month. Try and figure out all them feeling flying around in your head. Once you start to heal yourself then maybe you can work on healing the relationship (as friends) if that is even wanted.

[SMAN12b]

You want to hurt her the same way she hurt you, that's why you feel what way. I felt like that a lot when i first broke up with my girl. I still think of it here and there. I have finally come to terms that in the long run thats not a nice thing to do and in the end i still love the girl to death. I spent 3 weeks not talking to my X but tonight we are going to see each other which is going to be weird but i dont want it to be. You first need to deal with your feelings, like i said before no talking, texting, emailing for a few weeks to a month. Try and figure out all them feeling flying around in your head. Once you start to heal yourself then maybe you can work on healing the relationship (as friends) if that is even wanted.

I understand what you are saying, but in my case I do NOT want to hurt her or her to be hurting. for me it is more like I just want to know that I wasn't crazy in what all she said she wanted with me and even moreso, (and I know this is NOT healthy), I guess I want to know that I am worth the effort to her since I already put so much into her. Instead of her just being able to make one call and break my heart, and never looking back. that is what will hurt ME more I guess.
It would be easier for me to accept that HE was there at her house and made her call and say those things to me even though I know she is responsible for her own actions, but he knows how to manipulate her, and the things she said just did NOT sound like things she would ever say. SO I guess I am dreaming that I get a call telling me she was at gunpoint to threaten me to stay away.......LOLOL but she really didn't mean it
How sick am I???.....

Its ok Mizfit, give it to me good, I know you want to , and I know I need to hear it, that is the whole reason for this thread. to kick my ass and get my head where it needs to be!!!! I know my actions are NOT helping me

[DSM4Life]

I understand what you are saying, but in my case I do NOT want to hurt her or her to be hurting. for me it is more like I just want to know that I wasn't crazy in what all she said she wanted with me and even moreso, (and I know this is NOT healthy), I guess I want to know that I am worth the effort to her since I already put so much into her. Instead of her just being able to make one call and break my heart, and never looking back. that is what will hurt ME more I guess.
It would be easier for me to accept that HE was there at her house and made her call and say those things to me even though I know she is responsible for her own actions, but he knows how to manipulate her, and the things she said just did NOT sound like things she would ever say. SO I guess I am dreaming that I get a call telling me she was at gunpoint to threaten me to stay away.......LOLOL but she really didn't mean it
How sick am I???.....

Its ok Mizfit, give it to me good, I know you want to , and I know I need to hear it, that is the whole reason for this thread. to kick my ass and get my head where it needs to be!!!! I know my actions are NOT helping me

You need to stop trying to guess what/how she is feeling about you. Remember i said this time is YOUR time. Worry about yourself and yourself ONLY. The sad part is she left you, there is nothing you can do to change her mind. If the other guy talked her into making the call then guess what ? Its going to happen again and again. You need to decide if its a lost cause or not. Ask yourself what you want from this girl, if its just a relationship which you know you can't have then move on. If you guys both agreed on being just friends then you might want to work at that. Before you do anything, take the time for YOURSELF and collect your thoughts. I know there are a million thoughts running through your head in the shower, driving to work, at work, getting dressed, before bed. I been there (you saw my thread) but when taking time out for yourself you help clear the fog in your head. You will still think about her but when you talk to her or text her the fog comes right back because of your emotions. Just take you time, talk to someone, cry it out of you and don't be scared to do it. The girl i been talking about was the first girl i EVER cried in front of but i can't tell you how much better it made me feel in the end. Man, this girl has made me soft , damn you

Good luck

[SMAN12b]

You need to stop trying to guess what/how she is feeling about you. Remember i said this time is YOUR time. Worry about yourself and yourself ONLY. The sad part is she left you, there is nothing you can do to change her mind. If the other guy talked her into making the call then guess what ? Its going to happen again and again. You need to decide if its a lost cause or not. Ask yourself what you want from this girl, if its just a relationship which you know you can't have then move on. If you guys both agreed on being just friends then you might want to work at that. Before you do anything, take the time for YOURSELF and collect your thoughts. I know there are a million thoughts running through your head in the shower, driving to work, at work, getting dressed, before bed. I been there (you saw my thread) but when taking time out for yourself you help clear the fog in your head. You will still think about her but when you talk to her or text her the fog comes right back because of your emotions. Just take you time, talk to someone, cry it out of you and don't be scared to do it. The girl i been talking about was the first girl i EVER cried in front of but i can't tell you how much better it made me feel in the end. Man, this girl has made me soft , damn you

Good luck

THANKS MAN !! you are right, and I guess I been getting soft too.....LOLOL

[DSM4Life]

THANKS MAN !! you are right, and I guess I been getting soft too.....LOLOL

Yup and i know the feeling all to well.

I just watched a bunch of UFC videos online to help balance me out

[Bojangles69]

I understand what you are saying, but in my case I do NOT want to hurt her or her to be hurting.

Are you not hurting to a degree because of her right now?
Are you not confused out of your fvcking mind as to why things worked out the way they did?
Im not saying you need to wish retribution upon her, what I am saying is her actions have PROVED she DOESNT care about YOU being hurt.
And she may honestly claim to her self or you that she DOES care, that she has had no control or major influence on the outcome. She is a flake dude, she has spent her whole life behaving like this and men have been letting her get away with it.
Do you even realize how fvcked up this situation can really can be percieved?
She kept you in suspense, she'd pull you towards her and run away, shed make promises and break them, she could even keep bouncing back and forth between you and him for the next 6 months and keep telling you "hes annoying" your the *strong presence in my life* and you WOULD have believed it.
Why would you believe it?
NOt because your dumb. Of course not.
Because she is (well not really, shes just insecure and confused) and she believes herself. And this is why people believe strangers, because if that stranger acts like they really believe in what they're saying we'll totally buy it (unless its really far out) But she is confused, this is like the blind leading the blind here. Put it this way, shes your seeing eye dog, but she has a fvcking blindfold on!!! Because- she is confused. Even what she believes about herself in all likelyhood is false, because confused people change thier minds too much for ANYTHING to be reliable, factual or ever taken seriously.

Craziest part is if she called you right now and said i got rid of him chances are you would totally take her back.

Has she not been behaving badly? Has she not lied to you? Has she not said one thing and done another? But why.. why would you still reward that negative behavoir by forgiving her? Because shes your seeing eye dog, and you expect her not to lead you into traffic, BECAUSE your being naive bro, your idealizing again. She will drag you right over a set of railroad tracks and leave you there, and you'll ask where are we? and she'll say i dont know im confused but you can *TRUST* me, and you *WILL*, and that train is the only thing that can end it for some people. Trust that is. Dont let shit reach that point EVER.

Im not guessing here, if she did care about how you felt she would have exercised more concern over the words that came out of her mouth like "i see a future with us blah blah" She just spoke, she never once had the thought "well maybe i should play this cool because fact is we really dont know each other as good as i think we do, and by any chance things change i have the respect to not lead him on now because in the future i TRULEY dont want to hurt him." thats what secure and mature fvcking people do.
So with that said, you should understand now. You are not going to try to hurt her, thats what psychos do, your aware of this which is why you already stated it earlier.
HOWEVER, you will NOT give 2 fvcks by chance she DOES get hurt.
It WILL not affect you.
You have to earn certain things from people.
She has NOT earned YOU to be even the slightest bit irratated for her had you been informed something bad happened to her.
Its a cold world? NO. Your worrying about yourself, id say its responsible. Many overlysympathetic nice guys have wasted so much emotional energy and stability worring about someone who never reciprocated. They soon become a punching bag for people to dump thier issues on.

for me it is more like I just want to know that I wasn't crazy in what all she said she wanted with me and even moreso, (and I know this is NOT healthy), I guess I want to know that I am worth the effort to her since I already put so much into her. Instead of her just being able to make one call and break my heart, and never looking back. that is what will hurt ME more I guess.
It would be easier for me to accept that HE was there at her house and made her call and say those things to me even though I know she is responsible for her own actions, but he knows how to manipulate her, and the things she said just did NOT sound like things she would ever say. SO I guess I am dreaming that I get a call telling me she was at gunpoint to threaten me to stay away.......LOLOL but she really didn't mean it
How sick am I???.....

It IS healthy, but you know what? your not concerned about balancing out the amount of effort you put into this compared to the amount she has returned.
You are the most normal guy around. WOW i wish you knew. Everyone has mental issues bro. Your whole life you've been trying to sort out these issues. Than a woman comes around and soothes them, quells them alltogether, she makes you feel like a man, she makes you feel like your worth the reason you know you were put on this planet (to reproduce) she makes you forget all those old issues.
It doesnt matter really how much effort you invested, what matters is HOW MUCH you ALLOWED her to quell your natural state of war as a man. It gets A LOT deeper and too complex to explain here but women balance men out. They help man get in touch with a different side of himself, a less aggressive more accepting side. A side that makes him be at peace with himself.

Than she leaves and its like someone tripped over the carpet and exposed what was underneath. All this dirt you see, you feel like shit, you now have to deal with just not your normal everyday BS issues, but the loss of "something" that alleviated them.

Natural tendency? Find that "something" at all costs.

You know better now. Its not her thats hurting you, its how you allowed her to affect you, its how you used her as a patch on your spirit, on your emotions, how she offered temporary relief on these things, how she just kinda soothed things away..

Its ok Mizfit, give it to me good, I know you want to , and I know I need to hear it, that is the whole reason for this thread. to kick my ass and get my head where it needs to be!!!! I know my actions are NOT helping me

Men always ask the wrong question.
Its human, its the innate imperfectious nature of man.

They ask... "What could i do, if anything, to get her back?? I'll do anything, if only even for a second, just so I can know I could get her bac, than id tell her to fvck off bro because im cool blah blah..

They NEED to be asking.. "Why do I want her back?" "Why would I be willing to try to fix all this BS, willing to overlook EVERYTHING, to forgive someone who caused me nothing but stressful emotions, who did nothing but promise BS that mean nothing, who played with my fvcking head... why wouldnt i just want to start fresh with a cleanslate?

WHy? Why try to fix something thats so broken, why go to the sea with fire and pans to distill your own fresh water when you have a faucet in your own kitchen? Because thats real close to the logic you may be finding in your head right now. Ask yourself in the grasp of obsession over ANY woman, if i could have sex with or a relatioship with the next 10 beautiful girls I see, would i be giving this chick a second thought?
If no, she was nothing you thought she was. Everythings was a a dream. At this point all you do with her is NOT do anything. The hardest/simplest thing to do. But you DO go out and socialize with other women. Put yourself out there a little more than usual. Even tell them what this crazy psycho bitch did to you, exageratte it, they'll love you for it, a sensitive guy?? are you kidding me? where has he been all my life.

~Bo

[STEROIDZZ]

Blue you know your my boy.... you got the aol name if you need to talk.... im good in this cateogory , college is paying off ( psychology) .... just keep your head up, and remember theres more to life then women, you own the key to your own happiness..... as far as your mother..... remember theres always better places.. i just lost my great grandmother tonight,,, but what keeps me strong is the fact that i know she's with her husband, and in a state of complete happiness......remember this in times of crisis and in times of need.. seek the one who will never turn his back on you ....

[SMAN12b]

Thanks BO, I do appreciate the time you take to respond and believe it or not, you are being an incredible help to me right now!!!



Thaks KIDD, sorry to hear about your great grandmother

[Tren Bull]

I am at my breaking point! Same problems different day!
5 months without one drop of alcohol not even for fun
mother lying in bed dying and all i can do is watch
5 months of dieting
Working out 5 days a week without fail no matter what
WHY?
One more set? WHY
Pick up the heavier Dumbells. WHY
what difference does it make that I am not a lazy drunkin lard ass, she still picked HIM
what difference does it make that I am dedicated to taking care of my body and NOT afraid to work hard for things I want, she still picked HIM
Its my own fault for caring , for not givign up cause she has addictions
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on ME!
This is the second time I fell for her words of wanting a life with me only to her the phone ring again to tell me "I can't do it" Telling me to just forget her
Now I just want a drink to forget!!
THE BOTTLE:
the bottle will make me forget........
the bottle will get me through this endless nightmare of a day
the bottle will ease my heart just for one minutes peace.......
The problems will still be there in the morning
Then I will feel worse for giving in to that bottle

FVCK the bottle.....
I will do ONE MORE SET
I will lift the heavier dumbells.....
not for them.....not for you
But for me DAMMIT !!!!!!

fu_kin women... im sorry bro. if its any consolation to you, ive been in the exact same position as you

[Bojangles69]

you are being an incredible help to me right now!!!

likewise bro, i believe in a little something called the "ripple effect". you teach one person something really thoroughly, than they teach someone, than they teach someone else, and it spreads like wildfire.

you teach 30 people at once and they assume everyone else already knows, or they assume its no big secret, place no real value in the knowledge, and its doomed to become a distant memory.

ive planted a seed in you that will grow into something beautiful. nourish it, water it, feed it, pull out the weeds, and soon you will yield your own fruit, your own seeds, that you can give to someone and they can give to someone else and before you know it there will be no more weeds left in the world, that is my ultimate goal in life. (gay or not)

[Bojangles69]

fu_kin women... im sorry bro. if its any consolation to you, ive been in the exact same position as you

ya c sman? and id be willing to bet that maybe NOT every guy has been in the same exact specific situation as you, but EVERY GUY has UNDOUBTEDLY experienced the SAME EXACT emotions over a woman, or have been in the SAME EXACT headspace as you.

the only difference being what we learned from the experience..

[SMAN12b]

ya c sman? and id be willing to bet that maybe NOT every guy has been in the same exact specific situation as you, but EVERY GUY has UNDOUBTEDLY experienced the SAME EXACT emotions over a woman, or have been in the SAME EXACT headspace as you.

the only difference being what we learned from the experience..

Well if my pain and experience of getting can help someone else out that might not be willing to start a thread about it, then that is GREAT !!!

[Tren Bull]

Well if my pain and experience of getting can help someone else out that might not be willing to start a thread about it, then that is GREAT !!!

if you're referring to me... i dont think anything can possibly make me feel any better about how things worked out with liz. its like i just cant forget all the fu_ked up things that have happened in the past.

HAHAHAHA like earlier today i was remembering how she purposly left part of a blue condom wrapper that she had used to fu_k some guy in a place where i would find it...

then about an hour ago i was watching an episode of the simpsons where grandpa simpson was heartbroke over some girl, and he finds a blue condom wrapper on the ground



fu_kin great man...

[Tren Bull]

ya c sman? and id be willing to bet that maybe NOT every guy has been in the same exact specific situation as you, but EVERY GUY has UNDOUBTEDLY experienced the SAME EXACT emotions over a woman, or have been in the SAME EXACT headspace as you.

the only difference being what we learned from the experience..

yea you're right... ive been through the same emotions as my bro sman is going through...

hell im still feeling this sh_t every single day. sometimes it gets so bad all i want to do is ram a giant spike through my head.

but lets not turn this into a "poor tren, lets all feel sorry for him" type thread.

its my own fu_king fault

[SMAN12b]

yea you're right... ive been through the same emotions as my bro sman is going through...

hell im still feeling this sh_t every single day. sometimes it gets so bad all i want to do is ram a giant spike through my head.

but lets not turn this into a "poor tren, lets all feel sorry for him" type thread.

its my own fu_king fault

Boy do I know how you feel about the spike in the head thing !!!!! Ya jut get so tired of dealing with the bullshit all you want is for it to stop. But you guys helped out a lot and made me realize that I can't save her and its not my fault. so I am starting to feel better the more distance I put between it cause I know I am a good person with a heart of Gold!!! Someday I will be able to give it to someone that can accept it and be able to recipricate!!

We will survive TREN, cause that is what WE are made of!!!!!

[Tren Bull]

Boy do I know how you feel about the spike in the head thing !!!!! Ya jut get so tired of dealing with the bullshit all you want is for it to stop. But you guys helped out a lot and made me realize that I can't save her and its not my fault. so I am starting to feel better the more distance I put between it cause I know I am a good person with a heart of Gold!!! Someday I will be able to give it to someone that can accept it and be able to recipricate!!

We will survive TREN, cause that is what WE are made of!!!!!

definately bro. fu_k these sadistic and manipulative females. the best thing to do is turn our negative emotions into positive results... like gains



besides, i believe that everything happens for a reason

[SMAN12b]

definately bro. fu_k these sadistic and manipulative females. the best thing to do is turn our negative emotions into positive results... like gains



besides, i believe that everything happens for a reason

Agreed !! Just takes us some time to realize that reason!! But there is always a reason

[taiboxa]

i like STUF!

[V_Vandetta]

Sman hang in there been down this road a few times I know It hurts and at times you question you actions and what you could have done ........ But I have allways belived that all we endur is a road to better things yet to come... And I know how hard it is to keep faith when all seems turned upside down ......... but you are doing all the right things and some times the only person you can save is yourself ..........

I will pray for you to keep your strength up and head right ....... and I KNOW IT WILL WORK OUT FOR YOU just dig in and keep training and things will work out in Gods plan it always does

[HORSE~]

Agreed !! Just takes us some time to realize that reason!! But there is always a reason

I am glad U finaly realised U were gay..........

I think U should start a coming out of the closet thread bro we are here to suport you in this transitional period...........

U just let us know if any of them boys treat U wrong we got your back bro just not your butt so dont ask..........KAY?????????

Take care of that sweat sweat chica you got with you tonight brother yall have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just remeber in the morning that nothing has changed U just had a moment of weaknes and you are still truly A 100% HOMOSEXAL............KAY?????

Nighty night.............Dont let the bed bug's bite.....

[SMAN12b]

Sman hang in there been down this road a few times I know It hurts and at times you question you actions and what you could have done ........ But I have allways belived that all we endur is a road to better things yet to come... And I know how hard it is to keep faith when all seems turned upside down ......... but you are doing all the right things and some times the only person you can save is yourself ..........

I will pray for you to keep your strength up and head right ....... and I KNOW IT WILL WORK OUT FOR YOU just dig in and keep training and things will work out in Gods plan it always does

Thanks V, that means a lot to me !!!

[SMAN12b]

I am glad U finaly realised U were gay..........

I think U should start a coming out of the closet thread bro we are here to suport you in this transitional period...........

U just let us know if any of them boys treat U wrong we got your back bro just not your butt so dont ask..........KAY?????????

Take care of that sweat sweat chica you got with you tonight brother yall have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just remeber in the morning that nothing has changed U just had a moment of weaknes and you are still truly A 100% HOMOSEXAL............KAY?????

Nighty night.............Dont let the bed bug's bite.....

"in tears" ROFLMAO LOLOL you are the best Horse!! LUV you guys!! You are ALL helping me get through this stupid tough time!!!!!

[taiboxa]

Stuff?
i like it =[

[SMAN12b]

Stuff?
i like it =[

Does stuff like you too?

[taiboxa]

Does stuff like you too?

no she makes fun of me and makes threads about me and ducks! ><

[SMAN12b]

no she makes fun of me and makes threads about me and ducks! ><

I think that is her way of flirting with you

[taiboxa]

I think that is her way of flirting with you

yeah
im sure! lol

[SMAN12b]

yeah
im sure! lol

Come on, don't you remember in 5th grade when you pulled the little girls pony tails to let her know you liked her...Its the same thing....loll

[Mizfit]

It's odd when people consistently do the same thing over and over again and expect different results.

If you walk into a door - you will get hurt. So stop doing it.

[Mizfit]

Come on, don't you remember in 5th grade when you pulled the little girls pony tails to let her know you liked her...Its the same thing....loll

I make fun of everyone evenly

FOR THE RECORD I AM NOT STUFF!!!

AND r & r DOES NOT STAND 4 rest and relaxation. TAI!!!

[taiboxa]

I make fun of everyone evenly

FOR THE RECORD I AM NOT STUFF!!!

AND r & r DOES NOT STAND 4 rest and relaxation. TAI!!!

OH come on STUFF u know u want me! LOL ><

[Mizfit]

OH come on STUFF u know u want me! LOL ><

haha u know who i want

Starts with an R

[Tren Bull]

It's odd when people consistently do the same thing over and over again and expect different results.

If you walk into a door - you will get hurt. So stop doing it.

see thats exactly how i feel about liz. but its not quite as blatent as walking into a closed door. everything can seem so great, but regardless, it all goes to sh_t...