0-60mph what can u do.

[Foskamink]

yes i am guessing. since my stop watch isnt going to be dead set. its alot quicker next to a stock wrx. new exhaust system and sti headers is a good 50hp done correct.

[king6]

2004 Cobra (Slighty modded), 0-60 4.0sec.

[ecivon]

STIs run sub five seconds over here easy. Some models beat it easy and they are stock. for example

2004 subaru imprezza WR1 edition
0-60 4.2secs
1/4 mile 12.8

2005 STI stock

Engine:Flat-4-cyl, 2457cc, 16v, turboMax power:277bhp @ 6000rpmMax torque:289lb ft @ 4000rpm0 - 60mph:5.0sec Top Speed:158mph Price:£26,9
For once I agree with Foska

Those times I find very difficult to believe. What kind of car did you get these figures from? They certainly didn't come from a stock subaru. The only difference from a european subura and an american version is the timing. Everything else is the same. Higher octane will make a noticeable difference in performance, but not the figure Fosk posted, nor yours here Beast. What you posted here are some pretty damned impressive performance times.

[gixxerboy1]

im not sure 100% on the subaru in usa. but im going to asume they have smaller injectors. let alone the octan to match the fuel injection. its all relevant. serious do tests. use the abosolute lowest for 1 tank then the absolute highest. but ur car has to be decent. u cant just test it on a 140 hp sedan. should have atleast 200. altho the HP is not really relevant in cars either. the wrx stock has 230 hp europe. 224 hp usa. sti in europe is not much hp higher then the usa model.
STI runs 0-60 stock 5.4 i saw 4.5 off a qutor mile website. relating stock cars. but that wouldnt have been stock. but serious. try using 2 diff octans

I'm not going to debate this with you. I used to build motors. We would dyno them. Yes i know octane makes a difference. You just don't get that's its not much. Especially on a stock car. And yes you have exhaust that's still a stock car.

In fact just so you know to high of octane will actually make you loose hp

[Foskamink]

only if ur car isnt ment for high octane. my exhaust is 2.5 inch. i wont be loosing hp from octan 100 only gaining. if i had a 3 inch i would be in all sorts of trouble. plus i got the sti headers. which are a huge increase

[LukeNY]

"There is a misconception in the street-racing world that high octane fuel will make your car go faster or run better. This is simply not true. "

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-high-octane-fuel.htm

The sole reason gas stations sell more than one level of octane fuel is a phenomena called engine knock, or pinging. Gasoline will sometimes spontaneously explode when it is compressed, before the spark plus zaps it, prematurely forcing the piston back down and causing a conspicuous noise. High-octane gasoline is capable of being compressed more than low-octane gasoline before it detonates simply from compression, avoiding knocking.

http://www.tooeletranscript.com/inde...13996&Itemid=2

Does High Octane Gas Give More Power?

No. Unless your car is explicitly designed for high octane gas (see your car's manual), using a high octane gas will NOT improve the power output of your engine. Again, the octane rating relates to how much energy it takes to ignite the gas, but NOT directly to how much energy the gas puts out.

http://www.wanderings.net/books/is-h...orth-the-money


There are a million more links like this. American WRX is suppose to run on 91, anything above that isn't going to shave a second off your 0-60

[LukeNY]

And a modified exhaust system does not change a cars octane requirement

[perfectbeast2001]

Those times I find very difficult to believe. What kind of car did you get these figures from? They certainly didn't come from a stock subaru. The only difference from a european subura and an american version is the timing. Everything else is the same. Higher octane will make a noticeable difference in performance, but not the figure Fosk posted, nor yours here Beast. What you posted here are some pretty damned impressive performance times.

same figures listed in top gear magazine, EVO magazine (both big performance road car mags in UK). Yes they are stock. For me it is not suprising, the only thing that does suprise me is that the yank versions are so slow!

[Foskamink]

no one said exhaust changes requirement. but the headers should be changed to depending what octan ur stock is ment to use. and engine size.

there are alot of reports saying higher octane fuel is fake but its simply not. real drivers test it and will see the incredible difference.

[LukeNY]

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/...rx_sti_wr1.asp

The WR1 is a limited edition STi, not really a run of the mill WRX

Still a very impressive car though

[LukeNY]

no one said exhaust changes requirement. but the headers should be changed to depending what octan ur stock is ment to use. and engine size.

there are alot of reports saying higher octane fuel is fake but its simply not. real drivers test it and will see the incredible difference.

I'm sure so many real drivers feel the incredible difference... yet there is little to no information supporting this incredible diffference and a ton of information supporting the exact opposite

[Foskamink]

same figures listed in top gear magazine, EVO magazine (both big performance road car mags in UK). Yes they are stock. For me it is not suprising, the only thing that does suprise me is that the yank versions are so slow!

thats how i feel. and i do think the octane is a large part especially if the headers are lower on usa cars. also its funny how a stock wrx sti is 277hp its a quick car for its low hp in comparison

[Hackamaniac]

I don't know much about your car Foska..
I still don't see a 2 second difference in times under any circumstances ..Sorry..

[Foskamink]

I'm sure so many real drivers feel the incredible difference... yet there is little to no information supporting this incredible diffference and a ton of information supporting the exact opposite

if u have a car thats ment to run on proformance fuel. (91? in usa) run it with 85 for a while then that 93/94 if u can find it. and u will without doubt have a faster car on acceleration and response

[Foskamink]

its like comparing a deisel to a petrol. in some sense of the response. let alone acceleration

[PROTEINSHAKE]

my g35 coupe 6mt does about 5.3 0-60 they say...

[LukeNY]

if u have a car thats ment to run on proformance fuel. (91? in usa) run it with 85 for a while then that 93/94 if u can find it. and u will without doubt have a faster car on acceleration and response

If I have a car meant to run on 91 (which is what almost all performances cars in the US recommend, such as BMW or a WRX) and I run 85 in it, there will be a performance decrease.

If I take the same car and run 91 in it, it will run like it is suppose to.

If I take that car again and run 94 in it (or 100 for that matter), it will run just like it did on 91, with no performance gains (no second off the 0-60 time).


I never said the wrong octane couldn't hurt performance, I said running a higher octane then what your car wants won't help it. I can't take that same car, run 94 octane, and say it dropped a second off the 0-60 time

[Foskamink]

i am suspecting there might be a few minor adjustments on usa cars for the lower octane that might make it a bit slower too. because thats like then saying the 95 here will not run any faster then the 91 even tho wrx ment to have 98 and its noticeably faster. and 100 is even faster.

[Foskamink]

my g35 coupe 6mt does about 5.3 0-60 they say...

that cars pretty sick looking. hows it go on the corners?

[LukeNY]

i am suspecting there might be a few minor adjustments on usa cars for the lower octane that might make it a bit slower too. because thats like then saying the 95 here will not run any faster then the 91 even tho wrx ment to have 98 and its noticeably faster. and 100 is even faster.

We dont run lower octane in the US, its just the rating system.

"In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91-95 (regular) in Europe."

[Foskamink]

i have been to usa and driven cars too. it is lower octane.

[perfectbeast2001]

maybe the Subarus in America eat loads of Mcdonalds and pastrami sanwiches and they get bloated and slow!
Where as in England we fill them up with Tea and the occasional cucumber sanwich!!

[Fordfan01]

I race a 92' mustang and work at a garage part time. I havent run it on a 1/4 mile track because i have a 1/8 mile track about 2 miles down the road. This past thursday i ran a 6.24 1/8 mile im pretty sure thats close to a 10 second run on a 1/4 mile gixxer wat u think?

[Haro3]

ur fuel argument is rediculous dude. from 91-98 you would see very little difference. i've ran 89 octane and up to 104 in my old bike and there was a lil difference but nothing exceptional, a little more throtle responsive but i gaurantee not a second faster 0-60. and my buddies bike we ran 120 in his on the track which it was TUNED for which made a difference yea ill agree but it was tuned for the high octane. the extra combustion ur engine gets out of 7 more octane rating isnt 1.8 seconds worth on ur 0-60.

next thing ur gonna say is how cars run better on jet fuel LOL

[Foskamink]

maybe the Subarus in America eat loads of Mcdonalds and pastrami sanwiches and they get bloated and slow!
Where as in England we fill them up with Tea and the occasional cucumber sanwich!!

sounds fair to me!


hey ford ur car sounds pretty sick. must be cool. got any pictureS?

[PROTEINSHAKE]

that cars pretty sick looking. hows it go on the corners?

flat & fast

[Foskamink]

ur fuel argument is rediculous dude. from 91-98 you would see very little difference. i've ran 89 octane and up to 104 in my old bike and there was a lil difference but nothing exceptional, a little more throtle responsive but i gaurantee not a second faster 0-60. and my buddies bike we ran 120 in his on the track which it was TUNED for which made a difference yea ill agree but it was tuned for the high octane. the extra combustion ur engine gets out of 7 more octane rating isnt 1.8 seconds worth on ur 0-60.

next thing ur gonna say is how cars run better on jet fuel LOL

0.9 from my exhaust system and sti injectors/headers.

and 0.9 from 91-100 octane.

and i think usa subaru will have lower fuel injection for its octane or headers.

[Foskamink]

flat & fast

thats why i love the wrx. not much body roll unless u really push it and i love being in control and i feel awd gives my kinda driving style

[Haro3]

0.9 from my exhaust system and sti injectors/headers.

and 0.9 from 91-100 octane.

and i think usa subaru will have lower fuel injection for its octane or headers.

no way .9 seconds cuz of octane. maybe u jus learned how to drive better.

[epc512]

no way .9 seconds cuz of octane. maybe u jus learned how to drive better.

/agree

[bbplaya21]

My truck is a 02 z71. its prob 7 or 8 seconds for 60 and 16 to 17 seconds in a 1/4 mile. but who cares str8 pipes and big tires to go mudridin is more funner to me than racing down a track

[Foskamink]

no way .9 seconds cuz of octane. maybe u jus learned how to drive better.

well i did start really shitty on the gears. hence burning out 1 clutch already. but now im ontop of everything. im actually thinking about getting into raceing. but i really wanna try rideing a road bike before i take my car on tracks and shit.

[Fordfan01]

hey ford ur car sounds pretty sick. must be cool. got any pictureS?

yea i freaking love it BIG TIME SLEEPER! im on a friends computer but when i get home ill look for one

[Haro3]

well i did start really shitty on the gears. hence burning out 1 clutch already. but now im ontop of everything. im actually thinking about getting into raceing. but i really wanna try rideing a road bike before i take my car on tracks and shit.

you have an 06? and u already fried a clutch?

[cfiler]

My 03 Cavalier is around 8 second 0-60, and a 16ish second 1/4 mile.

My 93 5.0L stang, though, is alittle quicker, yet still pretty slow.

0-60 is low 6 seconds, and the best 1/4 mile I had was a 14.99 at 91 mph if I remember correctly. That was using drag radials, and removing asmuch weight as I could (seats, ect)

[Haro3]

buddy had an 11s neon. yea a fvckin neon.....it was pretty pimp to STOMP t/a's and camaros tho lol

[cfiler]

buddy had an 11s neon. yea a fvckin neon.....it was pretty pimp to STOMP t/a's and camaros tho lol

There is a guy at my school who put a SRT-4 motor into a old 95 4 door neon. Nice little sleeper. Don't even notice the intercooler in the front.

[Foskamink]

first mods for 07. im looking at new bloff-off valves. some HKS for show and preasure. a 24mm sway bar. going to change all the oils and ect. put some fritchen oil in the engine. change all the spark plugs. get right involved and learn about the engine. with the finer tuneing without much money

[Hunter]

Well Foska your mom will be happy your doing more of it on your own that means her credit card wont be so maxed out

[gixxerboy1]

buddy had an 11s neon. yea a fvckin neon.....it was pretty pimp to STOMP t/a's and camaros tho lol

wow he must have used really good gas to go that fast

I've seen a saturn once go low 12's that's just ****ed weird