Upstate youll hate this stack M1T/SD

[IronAdam]

Manpretty...I've run two orals before as well as higher dose cycles of M1T. It's not that it can't be done, just that there are better options that are less stressful on your body. and weeks 2-6 of your planned cycle look like a liver killer to me. If you go ahead with it make sure you do blood work. Your cholesterol levels will probably be way off for a while after PCT. Not to mention your sex drive will be non existent. Good Luck with it.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I've never studied up on what your taking...Don't know anything about them honestly....But, are you a tested athlete? Do you know the detection times on them?

Why are you running both of them? I'm not saying don't do it, or anything about liver probs...I've ran Tbol/Var, for 13 weeks then finished it off with winstrol for 6 weeks after that with no probs.

Are you looking for size? I thought the name of the game was strength?
Why not run Var/Halo for your goals...If in fact its to be faster and stronger? Doesn't M1t and whatever else your taking pack on lots of weight?....

So which is it, size or strength, or both?

[Manpretty]

true enough but im going through a bit of a dry spell here....lots of busts lately so PH are the only thing i can get my hands on.
det times are all good i wont be competing for at least 6 months....just trying to get strong as shit right now

[Manpretty]

and yes i will have to cut a bit but htat will come off when i start running again.....im off season right now

[Hellmaskbanned]

Alright gotcha.

You keeping a log?

Are these PH's more powerful than Tbol/Winstrol?

I know Tbol's pretty weak, but winny packs a punch!

[UpstateTank]

Alright gotcha.

You keeping a log?

Are these PH's more powerful than Tbol/Winstrol?

I know Tbol's pretty weak, but winny packs a punch!

Ive never ran tbol/winstrol, but from what ive read they are pretty much 2 of the most powerful orals you can get (dont know if they are more powerful than a-bomds or halo)--either otc roids or "real" roids

[K.Biz]

Well man you look pretty dead set on doin this cycle. so at least do a log for us. this could produce some pretty crazy numbers. ur gonna be shut down like a lil girl though hahaha

[Manpretty]

Alright gotcha.

You keeping a log?

Are these PH's more powerful than Tbol/Winstrol?

I know Tbol's pretty weak, but winny packs a punch!

i think i will keep a log but weekly prob..... im not sure i can keep up with daily

not sure compared to tbol winny guessing more powerful because i do know M1T is the most powerful oral there is besides methyl tren

[Manpretty]

i will do a week of "testing" before hand to find all my max lifts and body part measurements along with the diet i will try and maintain

[goose]

Alright gotcha.

You keeping a log?

Are these PH's more powerful than Tbol/Winstrol?

I know Tbol's pretty weak, but winny packs a punch!

Dude these are like two of the Strongest orals around,ever.MG for MG the Strongest,will add lean gains like no other.I would class this cycle as heavy as halo at 60mg,if it`s kept to 4 weeks it will go good.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Dude these are like two of the Strongest orals around,ever.MG for MG the Strongest,will add lean gains like no other.I would class this cycle as heavy as halo at 60mg,if it`s kept to 4 weeks it will go good.

Damn lol
Never knew, might need to look into these then.

[Manpretty]

Damn lol
Never knew, might need to look into these then.

lol i suggested M1T to you in your thread earlier this week

[Hellmaskbanned]

lol i suggested M1T to you in your thread earlier this week

I remember that but I didn't know how good it was.
Thought that Prohormone shit was weak...Guess I was wrong!
Yeah I want to track your progress, make a weekly log.

[Manpretty]

ok i dont know if anabolic/androgenic ratings mean anything to you but
inject test is 100/100
inject tren 500/500
M1T 1200/800
Methyl tren 12000/6000 that isnt a typo

[Manpretty]

those ratings are some what deceiving but give a general idea of strength of the compound

[Manpretty]

ok ive made a few minor changes to the cycle tell me what you guys think

im going to move to a 4 week cycle and use phera-plex instead of SD it will look like this

week 1-2 & 4: 20 mged M1T 30mged PP
week 3: 30mged M1T 45mged PP

pct by goose and ancilliaries by upstate posted ealier in this thread

[UpstateTank]

ok ive made a few minor changes to the cycle tell me what you guys think

im going to move to a 4 week cycle and use phera-plex instead of SD it will look like this

week 1-2 & 4: 20 mged M1T 30mged PP
week 3: 30mged M1T 45mged PP

pct by goose and ancilliaries by upstate posted ealier in this thread

Why are you peaking doses during week 3, and tapering off for week 4?

[Manpretty]

Why are you peaking doses during week 3, and tapering off for week 4?

well i figured that PP peaks at week three and therefor so would the doses......maybe im wrong about PP peak tho

[UpstateTank]

well i figured that PP peaks at week three and therefor so would the doses......maybe im wrong about PP peak tho

alright i gotcha

just real quick though...ive read that peaking your doses then tapering w/ this kinda stuff can actually be counterproductive

if it was me id peak the doses at week 4

[Manpretty]

hmmm really?
im not going to start for a couple of weeks yet if you knew where you read that id be very appreciative if you pm'd me with the link if its on the web that is.

[UpstateTank]

Ill see if i can find it

[Manpretty]

awesome thanks alot

[Manpretty]

here is the log you guy wanted
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...31#post3330931