we've been over that. clen works for some and not for others, you have to watch your bp and heartrate on it. it didnt do much for me.Originally Posted by mullenium
we've been over that. clen works for some and not for others, you have to watch your bp and heartrate on it. it didnt do much for me.Originally Posted by mullenium
I wanted to use Clen to burn fat but couldn't, I got it and well I found out I was a non responder. Took up to 200mcg and didn't do anything, didn't feel anything, just nothing and I know it was real because I had a friend of mine take about 2 tablets and they were shaking and experiencing all the sides of it.Originally Posted by Amorphic
							
						
					
					
						whats this DNB stuff?
Originally Posted by mullenium
You don't be worrying about "dnb" for a little while hehe
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199885Originally Posted by mullenium
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I DO NOT SUPPORT ANY UGL's OR ANY ORGANIZATION DEALING WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS/SUBSTANCES!
Difference between Drugs & Poisons
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=317700
Half-lives explained
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...inal+half+life
DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144
BE CAREFUL!
Do Not Bother if you don't know the letters.Originally Posted by mullenium
In 1999, I ran 20mg of Desoxyn 3x, on a deca, t cyp, dbol cycle. It was the best I ever looked. I ate what I wanted, got ripped, got huge, AND, for some mysterious reason, I was never lacking for motivation.
Of course, once you put a tablet on a plate, and crush it with a spoon, and realize that it is indeed possible to have the most perverted sex imaginable, for literally 7 hours or more on one load, your workout routine might start lagging behind a little.
In general, Desoxyn allows you to eat, and does not cause insane depression when it wears off, unlike dextro-amphetamine products, such as adderall, or dexedrine.
The bad thing is, there is no ceiling to the high, or how much you can take. If you mess around, the sun will set and rise twice before you realize what happened.
If taken responsibly, there is little health risk compared to something like DNP.
diet, cardio, mental strength, hard work, and dedication.... thats the best for fat loss without using dangerous poisons like DNP.... good luck!
dnp for me lost 16 pounds in 20 days on it
							
						
					
					
						T3 + Caffeine + Diet (honestly its POWERFUL)
i would hope you are meaning to say that should be an on cycle stack, otherwise you are going to lose a lot of muscle from the t3.Originally Posted by pr0digy9daniel
							
						
					
					
						anything that is used in the industrial world to make explosives, and pesticides. is never good stick with cardio and a low calorie diet and u will be more then ok
ive never had the guts to take dnp... knowing how toxic it is.... clen is good enough! well, on top of good diet and training of course
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clen works great for me and I would recommend it.
I think some of these recomendations for fatloss are a little careless
Desoxyn c'mon man, not a good idea. That is some addictive stuff and isn't worth getting involved with for a few pounds.
DNP scares me.. I stay clear of it, I prefer t3/clen but only when on cycle so ya dont lose much muscle.
							
						
					
					
						DINITROPHENOL is a huge no. It used to be sold by natives on the reserve dirt cheap to people. The cops who normally let that kinda thing slide shut that down right away. Lets you know what kinda stuff it can be.
Actually I found clen to be way more damaging to my body than DNP..both are too be respected and not taken lightly..from clen I had high bp (160/110), elevated heart rate (120beats/min) and abnormal EKG..all returned to normal, but I had only been only clen for 7 days and got up to 100mcgs after the 6th day..DNP..had no cardio vascular issues at all, blood work was find except my electrolytes (Na, K) were slightly off..i just sweated my balls off but otherwise was fine..just something to think about
DNP= bad news even for the experianced person which I am not.. However all ya have to do is read and you will learn!
on a side note great results from almost everyone who has used it tho.. I just stay away from it.
wizzle wazzle
liposuction.
actually dont they have a new thing called smart lipo that doesnt actually suck out the fat.
it zaps it with a lazer and it then melts and dissolves in the body as waste, and it supposed to tighten up the skin as well while doing it.. i seen it on cnn or nbc or something a while back.. in fact you can youtube it..
supposed to be the wonder surgery for fat loss for those who arnt really fat but need to get rid of that gut or lovehandles, make ya look natural like they were never there..
now if your 50 pounds over weight i guarentee you will still have some flabby skin! yuck!!
DNP can be safely used IMO. You must hydrate, consume enough carbs to create heat and take all of the suggested and required vitamins (anti ox's) and supps. Just prepare to feel like total sh!t during that period, smell and sweat like a fat guy in 100 degree weather with 100% humidity. If you're doing 400mgs+ ed then your life will be altered.
dnb.. is that the same as "anabar" lol
After loosing a buddy to DNP, I would have a hard time recomending it to anyone.
Best thing I find for fat loss, is something to give me energy in the morning to bust out some AM cardio.
It could be a chemical stimulant, or even a badass song. Anything that gets me pumped up and ready to run afew miles.
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