All Oral Cycle

[admirals56]

anavar but if you only want all orals your not ready for steroids.. i wanted to use steroids when i was 15 but held off till now and im 19 and about to do my first cycle... when i was 15 i didnt mind doning injections and i never thought once of doing an all oral dont be scared of the needle just use a 25g and it may take a minet to finish but no pain..

[juicenchris2989]

wooohooooo go baby go go lol

[J*U*icEd]

oral only cycle= very bad cycle... plan a better one

[juicedapple463]

run a test in there, like test e for 10-12 weeks at 500mg/week

[Big_BoneZ]

Oral cycle cant be all bad. I've done a deca/test/dbol cycle and only gained 16 lns in 2 months... but a little while ago, i started anadrol only cycle and guess what... I gained 14 lbs in 10 days.. started with 50mg a day and a week later went to 100mg.

Some user made a comment that newbies think of orals as magic pills, but lets look at it these lines... Are we ALL guilty of taking injectable steroids as MAGIC or a easy way out?

I've been training for over 7 years and I don't look bad at 6 ft tall (242 lbs - 15% bf), and I have competed at a natural competition 4 years ago (placed third). From experience, I can tell we can gain weight naturally, and this is something a lot of experienced bodybuilders can agree with.

Our problem is we have been training and eating right for SO DAMN LONG that it gets repetitive and boring, and we want to keep seeing results, so anabolics do the magic.

Problem with newbies is that they don't want to go through ANY pain, they don't like to eat plain bland food day in and day out, and most of them don't eat enough. They look at us and they think only way they can look like us is taking steroids.

I believe reason they want to use orals is -
1. Scare of needles and this is a BIG problem, and I agree with them. Injecting yourself isn't easy, My first shot took me almost and hour to do it and I never had a problem with my friend injecting me. My friend injected me wrong and caused an abscess, and guess what--- I was out of training for almost a year.

2. Orals are easy to take daily basis and are shorter cycle - 4-6 weeks as opposed to 12-16 week cycle.

Just like we treat our first competition as experience, we should let these - gain weight quick with no pain newbies - try oral cycle as experience. I say this because these guys are looking to gain 10-15 lbs to boost their ego. Most (not all) steroid users don't keep working hard after their first cycle and once they lose their shape they abuse steroids to keep up with their shape.

Steroid abuse eventually gives regular users a bad name, so for bodybuilding's sake we should let them try it.

Only advice I have to give to newbies is ONLY do 1 oral steroid eg. Anadrol or Dbol (These two are the best orals, in that order) and you don't have to go nuts with PCT, only take it if you feel any gyno or sexual problems.

Safe dosage of Anadrol is 50mg/day for newbies, and 100 - 150mg (150mg can be Dangerous for new users)
Dbol is great at 40-50mg/day for new users

Only thing I would suggest is to have something for acne, because excessive testosterone will do that to you if you are prone to it.

[rain88]

Thank big_bonez for your constructive post. Just asking is taking dbol and winstrol together is ok? and then clomid for PCT if there are any signs of gyno.

So what i was thinking is going with 40mg dbol and 40mg winstrol a day for say 5-6 weeks? And not to forget i will be taking milk thistle tabs everyday to protect my liver.

[legobricks]

Oral cycle cant be all bad. I've done a deca/test/dbol cycle and only gained 16 lns in 2 months... but a little while ago, i started anadrol only cycle and guess what... I gained 14 lbs in 10 days.. started with 50mg a day and a week later went to 100mg.

Some user made a comment that newbies think of orals as magic pills, but lets look at it these lines... Are we ALL guilty of taking injectable steroids as MAGIC or a easy way out?

I've been training for over 7 years and I don't look bad at 6 ft tall (242 lbs - 15% bf), and I have competed at a natural competition 4 years ago (placed third). From experience, I can tell we can gain weight naturally, and this is something a lot of experienced bodybuilders can agree with.

Our problem is we have been training and eating right for SO DAMN LONG that it gets repetitive and boring, and we want to keep seeing results, so anabolics do the magic.

Problem with newbies is that they don't want to go through ANY pain, they don't like to eat plain bland food day in and day out, and most of them don't eat enough. They look at us and they think only way they can look like us is taking steroids.

I believe reason they want to use orals is -
1. Scare of needles and this is a BIG problem, and I agree with them. Injecting yourself isn't easy, My first shot took me almost and hour to do it and I never had a problem with my friend injecting me. My friend injected me wrong and caused an abscess, and guess what--- I was out of training for almost a year.

2. Orals are easy to take daily basis and are shorter cycle - 4-6 weeks as opposed to 12-16 week cycle.

Just like we treat our first competition as experience, we should let these - gain weight quick with no pain newbies - try oral cycle as experience. I say this because these guys are looking to gain 10-15 lbs to boost their ego. Most (not all) steroid users don't keep working hard after their first cycle and once they lose their shape they abuse steroids to keep up with their shape.

Steroid abuse eventually gives regular users a bad name, so for bodybuilding's sake we should let them try it.

Only advice I have to give to newbies is ONLY do 1 oral steroid eg. Anadrol or Dbol (These two are the best orals, in that order) and you don't have to go nuts with PCT, only take it if you feel any gyno or sexual problems.

Safe dosage of Anadrol is 50mg/day for newbies, and 100 - 150mg (150mg can be Dangerous for new users)
Dbol is great at 40-50mg/day for new users

Only thing I would suggest is to have something for acne, because excessive testosterone will do that to you if you are prone to it.

Anadrol? Have fun loosing that nicely added water! 14lbs of muscle in 10days. Unlikely bro, read up a little more on anadrol and dbol cycles by themselves, also read up on how each compound directly affects your body and why you get big so fast and also why you lose most if not all the weight once your off. Those two are not recomended because you mainly blow up quick with a lot of water weight in which you loose most of it when you come off which can create a lot things like, depression, lack of motivation in the gym, etc.... So before you posts things like that read a bit more on it. You have been gifted with great genetics (natural and congrats). Just because you are using anadrol only does not means its the best idea for members. Blow up with water and lose it all. Best bet is a tbol, var, or winny cycle which youll gain a few nice solid lbs out either of them by themselves granted your diet is in check.

[rain88]

guys?

[nowdenlid]

bro read up oral only cycle is total crap.............

first cycle = test e @ 500mgs every week 250mgs monday 250 mgs thursday

nolva pct @ 30-40mgs everyday for 25-30 days ,start 14-16 days after last shot of test e.

plain and simple starter cycle...

[rain88]

I dont think oral is all crap, its just said to be by everyone. Just because its pills doesnt mean it does not work, its works the same except burdens our liver more.

[legobricks]

I dont think oral is all crap, its just said to be by everyone. Just because its pills doesnt mean it does not work, its works the same except burdens our liver more.

You need to research more on each compound (injectables and orals) in the steroid profiles section. This will give you an idea of what is good used alone and what is not. Once you have an idea then come back and ask on what we think. There was some bad advice given in here and the post that I quoted above you is a prime example.

[rain88]

I'm just lookin to gain some visible muscle's guys. Not looking for much, after this i will go for injections but just for my first time i would rather go with tablets, please do understand

[rain88]

double post.

[Big_BoneZ]

I have nothing to prove to anyone, I am just trying to help someone who is lost. Flaming a newbie and inexperienced bodybuilder is no good and does not show any professionalism or pride. If you must know, I have 18.5" arms on a good day and arms are my weak bodypart.

rain88, you still have LOTS of naturally occurring free testosterone, and NO you do not need to shoot yourself 5 times a week to gain 20 lbs of muscle and lose it 2 months later.

If you were in vancouver, I could make you gain 15 lbs in 2 months NATURALLY with just protein powder as a supplement. I know genetics give some bodybuilder an advantage over others, but when a fresh steroid user works hard in the gym and EXPLORES his option READING up on steroids before taking any shows me that this kid is serious, and is no DRIVE-BY cycle. I researched steroids for 2 years before I did mine, but I had 3 years training experience before.

rain88, from experience I can tell you that reason I didn't get big when I was your age is LACK of calories. If you really want to prove to us you are serious, go out and fix your diet first, this will give you advantage over other people who go nuts with drugs.

Do this -

BEFORE CYCLE:

Calculate calories: take 1.5g/lb your bodyweight and don't go below 1g/lb bodyweight up until 1 month after finishing your cycle
Eat 2g/lb Carbs everyday
Eat about 50-60g Healthy fat everyday

Eat 4 SOLID meals HEALTHY, no junk whatsoever, maybe 1 cheat meal a week, and have two shakes a day (about 60g protein each)
Make sure you eat broccoli everyday.

Train with proper form, irregardless of weight you push. If some arrogant asshole makes fun of you, IGNORE HIM. You are not at the gym to get into catfights with idiots, focus on weights alone and intensity of workouts, no idiots, no TV (if your gym has any), and no hot chics shaking their ass - its YOU against the IRON.

If you can do the above - diet and exercise for AT LEAST 2 weeks, you prove to be a serious bodybuilder and worthy of taking drugs. DO NOT TRY to prove anything to ANYbody, only person that matters to you is YOU. Me and other guys can sit here and talk for HOURS, but only person that matters in the end is YOU, you have to prove it to YOURSELF that you are the MAN, not ME, not anybody else who babies you or puts you down.

IF YOU CAN NOT DO THE ABOVE, QUIT BODYBUILDING AND YOU MIGHT AS WELL START RUNNING MARATHONS WITH SOCCER MOMS.

Cycle:

Go with Anadrol only cycle and taper it - start low dosage for two weeks (50mg/day), then double it for two weeks and then rest of two weeks (100mg/day) go back to half dosage.

Take Milk Thistle AND Saw Palmetto everyday - this will keep your liver and prostate safe. You may not need clomid, only take it if you cant get it up 1 month after your cycle ( I had ABSOLUTELY no issues after - I can have sex 8 times a day if I had time)

I am not a doctor, not a steroid GURU, but I am just trying to help you with least side effects and helping you KEEP the weight you gain on cycle. People will tell you to use steroids to get big, and then use steroids to lose fat and then use steroids for PCT and 6 months later when you look the same start with same thing again, you have to ask yourself WHEN the **** DO WE stop taking steroids?

rain88, if you have any questions, PM me.