how do i know when the test enth and eq have kicked in?

[jiggy]

i am a fighter so i dont lift for max weight. so i cant compare like guys who see a 50lb increase in their max for example.

how do i know when its kicked in? i am going to be doing the first shot of the 4th week this wednesday (shooting every wed n sun).

i have been lifting more weight and felt like i have had more stamina since the first day ive been on it because of the mental change of being on a cycle, but how do i know when it has really taken effect?

[Banelord]

on the 4th week u will go to the gym and everything will be lighter. That when u know.

[skinnykenney]

on the 4th week u will go to the gym and everything will be lighter. That when u know.

only takes 1-1.5 weeks on me.
after that 55lbs feels like 40-45lbs

[Big]

only takes 1-1.5 weeks on me.
after that 55lbs feels like 40-45lbs

on long esters you feel a strength increase in less than 2 weeks?

[skinnykenney]

on long esters you feel a strength increase in less than 2 weeks?

yes sir,
my liver matabolizes a little faster when it comes to aas.
but my liver motabolism is slower to other meds.
the long ester may take 2 weeks for some and 1.5weeks for others and 3weeks for another group.

since my liver is fast i stick to 8week cycles with great results!

[Big]

yes sir,
my liver matabolizes a little faster when it comes to aas.
but my liver motabolism is slower to other meds.
the long ester may take 2 weeks for some and 1.5weeks for others and 3weeks for another group.

since my liver is fast i stick to 8week cycles with great results!

so your liver is metabolizing testosterone fast?

[Amorphic]

should feel a sex drive increase by weeks 1-2

weeks 5+ you will feel the strength and weight gain

[jiggy]

skinny doesnt know shit. hes talking about the mental change u feel. "55's feeling like 45's" isnt really a big strength increase. lol


anyway..

if im still getting muscle soreness the day after lifting, its safe to say it hasnt kicked in yet? most people say muscle soreness never occurs once ur really "on"

[skinnykenney]

skinny doesnt know shit. hes talking about the mental change u feel. "55's feeling like 45's" isnt really a big strength increase. lol


anyway..

if im still getting muscle soreness the day after lifting, its safe to say it hasnt kicked in yet? most people say muscle soreness never occurs once ur really "on"

not everyones liver motabolizes anything the same
the numbers are all averaged out. you do not have to take my word. Do research and you will see.
and ask your doctor if everyons liver motabolizes at the same exact rate as everyones does. The answer will be no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

plus i don,t get that mantal strong man feelling either so wrong there also Bro.
I don't ever get a mental change from aas.

and when you are talking about a 195lb six foot one man increasing his sets by 15lbs on curls it is substantial!

anyone would be happy with that increase in a week on each curl and each arm a 15lb increase in 1.5Bro.
now who don,t know ;#%&*!!!!!!!!?

you will make a lot of friends on here with that aproach. LOL!

[skinnykenney]

oh and a week and a half after i went from 3days 2.5 hour workouts to 6-7 days no problem

[jiggy]

i dont even want to respond. lol


anyway.. does anyone have anymore helpful contributions?

[skinnykenney]

i dont even want to respond. lol


anyway.. does anyone have anymore helpful contributions?

no, just me LOL!
left yourself open for that one.

[MuscleScience]

when you get an erection it will curve to the left, thats when you will know.

[Big]

when you get an erection it will curve to the left, thats when you will know.

your left or mine?

[MuscleScience]

your left or mine?

Hmmm, left in anatomical position.

[Banelord]

1.5 week for Test E? Come on man u sure about that or it in your head. Test P can belive but not Test E.

[Banelord]

That is true once your on, forget about it, after a crazy work out, wait 4 hour, u will want to work out again, but don;t u still need the rest. When it hit u friend u will think u are in heaven. It that good.

[MercyDog]

depends on dosage also, how much are you taking?

At lower doses you may never actually feel any different, at higher doses...........well......you'll know

[jiggy]

test e 500mg/wk, eq 600mg/wk

[MuscleScience]

Metabolize

[skinnykenney]

Metabolize

thanks Bro, i don't know what the hell i would do if i spelled that wrong again!
is misspellink ( LOL!)a word not allowed on this forum?










?

[MercyDog]

you should feel it in about 3 weeks from start, you sex drive should be better and you should begin bloating. Hands and feet swell some most noticably. You may also be getting restless. At that dose by week 3-4 you should def. feel something different about yourself or you more than likely got burnt.

[PingPang]

i would say you know your test is good
when you have multiple raging boners
throughout the day and you flog your
bone 3 times per day.

This should be around 1-2 weeks in

It takes longer to build in your blood
for strength gains. About 4-7 weeks

[Big]

In fact, Andriol, which is the only recognized oral testosterone, bypasses the first pass through the liver.

[jiggy]

tttttt

[skinnykenney]

tttttt

this should'nt even count as a post.
what the heck is this?

[Big]

sorry to get off track on your original question, the first thing I notice is a drastic increase in sex drive. If you haven't noticed that by week 4 or 5 I would start to question the gear.

[skinnykenney]

I found this when I googled for a bit ( I did not write the article)

Oral steroids are more difficult for the liver to metabolize
than injectable steroids. Liver cells are damaged as the
liver attempts to break down the oral agents.(3) There are
changes in the structure of the liver with continued use, and the
liver's ability to rid the body of wastes (excretory function) is
decreased.(4) In one type of toxicity, blood-filled pockets
open inside the liver as a result of steroid use. This is known
medically as "peliosis hepatitis," and although rare, is not
restricted to high doses or long-term use of steroids. (2,5,6)

I just found this for you to read.
see the part about orals being more difficult to metabolize than injectable steroids

[skinnykenney]

Bump in the road!
to the top.

[foxxy08]

start your own thread.

[Big]

skinney, the original poster's question has been answered, no need for you to bump his thread. You just go ahead believing your speedy liver metabolizes test lightning fast. I know what works for me, if you know the same then there is no reason to continue this debate.