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    Quote Originally Posted by gman2021 View Post
    It doesn't have to be a magic pill. Just as long as it's not a magic injectable. All I want is to get a good boost into a healthier lifestyle and I want to know how I can dose my Dianabol to get that.
    This is such a ridiculous thread. We get these "dianabol only cycle" threads all the time, at least 2 a week. This has got to be the worst. Most people just ignore us and go ahead and run it anyway, I'm guessing. You've been working out for 2 years, and you want to start running cycles? Give me a fking break man. Have some discipline. You're handicapping yourself at 21, that is in no realm a good idea.

    You want a good boost into a healthier lifestyle? You think steroids is going to help you? If you can't find it within yourself to maintain a healthy lifestyle then AAS is not for you. Not only are you exhibiting bad decision making skills by deciding to use AAS at this stage in your life, you are going about it COMPLETELY the wrong way.

    You know all those guys you see on the news editorials and reports about how bad steroids are? You are those guys. Those are the guys that didn't want to do research, didn't want to hear what anyone had to say...and did it anyway. It came back and bit them in the ass, and now they cry about it and blame their misfortunes on AAS. It's always better to find some beast lurking in the night to blame your stupidity on.

    Do us all a favor, and don't use AAS.

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    I think the whole thing is a waste of time, I was just advising the maximum safe dosage. if you chose to run a second cycle with them, I would wait a couple months after pct before another go. next time you should ask your questions before you order, there are some oral-only cycles I really like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I think the whole thing is a waste of time, I was just advising the maximum safe dosage. if you chose to run a second cycle with them, I would wait a couple months after pct before another go. next time you should ask your questions before you order, there are some oral-only cycles I really like.
    What are they?

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    liver happy for someone you're size is probably 20mg a day would more then suffice, and basicly stacking a test is the way to go, dbol is a "/cycle starter", you need to add test to your equation if you want to have you're gains stay on you're body after 3 month.

    if you wanna look like those little boys pumping up to 220 pounds from like 170, and then see them in another 3-4 months with liver issues and being back to 155 pounds go for it, do d-bol only cycle.

    if you don't wanna end up like these weaklings, man up, take a tower put it in your mouth and take the needle and shuve it in your butt cheek, don't take 2 hours to pounder if you should stick it in or not, get it done with then you'll stop fearing the pain because it dosent hurt.

    and max for dbol cycle for d-bol is 6 weeks, most people will tell you 3-4 weeks to do it, and to drink atleast 2 gallons of water per day, and do some cardio, and take either liv52 or milk thistle

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    tbol, anavar, primo all aren't bad, better than dbol if used properly.

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    What's so wrong with Dianabol? How is it that everything you gain, you magically lose? I've heard other people say that Dbol only cycles give them good, consistent gains and is one of their favorite cycles.

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    I think you were allready told this... 40mg for 4weeks max ran with Test. I was a little nervouse about needles too but you should try stabbing ur self instead of pently poking it. I just throw it in there and dont feel a damn thing. you sit there and play around that shit hurtz

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    o woops i didnt see that there was more then one page I answered a question on the first page my bad lol

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    Bro listen up k 20mg is by far enough do a 6week cycle at 20mg a day for 3 weeks then down to 15mg a day for 1 week then 10mg a day for 1 week then 5mg a day for a week after the last day begin with your pct for 2 weeks take milk thistle daily drink heaps of water and KEEP TRAINING dont stop k dont take 40mg jus save for your next cycle time on = time off your gona lose round 50% dont worry most of its water keep training your keep abit depends on you tho but listen to the pros they know what they on about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hack da Squat View Post
    Bro listen up k 20mg is by far enough do a 6week cycle at 20mg a day for 3 weeks then down to 15mg a day for 1 week then 10mg a day for 1 week then 5mg a day for a week after the last day begin with your pct for 2 weeks take milk thistle daily drink heaps of water and KEEP TRAINING dont stop k dont take 40mg jus save for your next cycle time on = time off your gona lose round 50% dont worry most of its water keep training your keep abit depends on you tho but listen to the pros they know what they on about.
    Is that really enough? It seems kind of low... What kind of gains could I expect with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman2021 View Post
    Is that really enough? It seems kind of low... What kind of gains could I expect with that?
    by the time week to comes around yourl be nice an buff but train hard like really hard and eat and eat and rest and rest good food only i recomend clomid for pct good luck and at the end when you get weak push through it this is wheva you wasted your money or not you slak off here yourl lose alot more

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    I never said you lose all of your gains on dbol, I said there are other oral compounds I would prefer if I were to run an oral-only cycle.

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    this guy is hard headed lock the thread be done with it.

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    You really got to read up about it befor you use it k no rush

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    2-3 pounds of lean muscles per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxracer View Post
    2-3 pounds of lean muscles per week.
    At only 20 mg/day?

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    if you're diet is in check, and you train properly and have plenty of rest, yes, at you're size 20mg a day is like 40mg for someone who is 220+ pounds,

    but steroids aren't a magical pill,

    here the catch, *you're first cycle is always the best cycle you'll ever have*
    if you messed it up by not having a good diet or workout ect.. you will lose the most important cycle.

    so if I were you I'd study the diet section and workouts before even jumping in steroids, and wouldn't go higher then 20mg/day! because you'll only piss the rest at you're size.

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    Wow, thanks!

    OK, what would you guys recommend for PCT? I was just thinking about doing a cycle of Clomid or Nolvadex. Should I take milk thistle as well? Is PCT even necessary with such a low dose like 20 mg/day (...still seems a little hard to believe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman2021 View Post
    Wow, thanks!

    OK, what would you guys recommend for PCT? I was just thinking about doing a cycle of Clomid or Nolvadex. Should I take milk thistle as well? Is PCT even necessary with such a low dose like 20 mg/day (...still seems a little hard to believe).
    Nolvadex or Clomid? Take em' both.
    Liv 52, or Milk Thistle (Liver support)
    Hawthorne berries (Cardiovascular support)
    Creatine
    Lots o' protein
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    Also, as everyone else has said, make sure you've got your diet in check.
    By the way, there's some GREAT reading posted on the stickies, that'll answer pretty much any future questions that you feel the need to ask.
    I know, it's information overload reading the stickies, but if you're not willing to read, and learn, then it's most likely you'll lose your gains, and be back at square one.

    ~Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxracer View Post
    if you're diet is in check, and you train properly and have plenty of rest, yes, at you're size 20mg a day is like 40mg for someone who is 220+ pounds,

    but steroids aren't a magical pill,

    here the catch, *you're first cycle is always the best cycle you'll ever have*
    if you messed it up by not having a good diet or workout ect.. you will lose the most important cycle.

    so if I were you I'd study the diet section and workouts before even jumping in steroids, and wouldn't go higher then 20mg/day! because you'll only piss the rest at you're size.
    Your still alive? I was sure you'd kill yourself with your genius insulin only cycle... I had november in the pool

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    Your still alive? I was sure you'd kill yourself with your genius insulin only cycle... I had november in the pool
    shoulda picked december!~

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxracer View Post
    if you're diet is in check, and you train properly and have plenty of rest, yes, at you're size 20mg a day is like 40mg for someone who is 220+ pounds,

    but steroids aren't a magical pill,

    here the catch, *you're first cycle is always the best cycle you'll ever have*
    if you messed it up by not having a good diet or workout ect.. you will lose the most important cycle.

    so if I were you I'd study the diet section and workouts before even jumping in steroids, and wouldn't go higher then 20mg/day! because you'll only piss the rest at you're size.
    dont listen to this guy, hes another idiot who ran insulin only cycle and then lied about his results

    he also has the lifts of school girl,

    im amazed hes actually giving advice



    to the OP, seriously u think taking dianabol cycle will give you a healthy boost in your lifestyle? how stupid are you?

    its simple, put the steroids down and stop screwing yourself

    even if we thought u were ready for steroids, NO ONE would advise you to run dianabol alone

    if your scared of needles then grow the fuk up, ur clearly still a baby, and if you havent got the confidence to post ur stats then ur not ready for steroids

    their not magic pills, thatll turn you into a muscle man

    this thread is funny, so much advice from randoms people with like 23 posts.....

    seriosuly dont take advice from these people, their probably as dum as you

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman2021 View Post
    OK, I just ordered 3 bottles of Dianafort. Each bottle has 100 10mg tabs. I want to use all of the tabs because left overs just seem like a waste of money. Would 8 weeks at 50mg/day be OK? I've heard some people say that Dianabol is terrible and will make your liver shrivel up and die, and I've heard others say it's not that bad. Don't make a post saying that a Dianabol-only cycle is a waste and I'll lose all of my gains. You obviously don't know what you're talking about if that's what you believe. I just want to know if my liver can handle it.

    Also, would taking milk thistle during the cycle weaken the anabolic effects of the Dianabol?

    P.S. I have every intention on doing a good PCT of Clomid or Nolvadex.

    in all fairness with stats like yours i dont think u should be telling people on a steroid forum they dont know anything when u cant seem to get anywhere

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    Among all the drugs available for an oral cycle, what was the reason for you to choose dbol over the others?

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    By the way, I think you are too young for aas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    By the way, I think you are too young for aas.
    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    By the way, I think you are too young for aas.
    Dude, he's younger than 21. He already said he'd get kicked out if he posted his stats. Then when he finally did post them, he was magically 21, and not a single one of his "stats" were ban worthy.

    If that's not an obvious lie from a 17 year old, I don't know what is. This guy is going to screw up his body and wind up on hormone replacements for life.

    And further more, what grown man would be such a ***** over needles? The guy is a kid, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunHangDo View Post
    Dude, he's younger than 21. He already said he'd get kicked out if he posted his stats. Then when he finally did post them, he was magically 21, and not a single one of his "stats" were ban worthy.

    If that's not an obvious lie from a 17 year old, I don't know what is. This guy is going to screw up his body and wind up on hormone replacements for life.

    And further more, what grown man would be such a ***** over needles? The guy is a kid, plain and simple.
    Hmmmm that makes a lot of sense unfortunately.

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    I'm on 20mg/ED Dbol and Test Prop 50mg/EOD. Aromasin 10mg/ED.

    I was actually on Dbol alone with Aromasin and Proviron 25mg/ED for 3-4 weeks and I was gaining, but it made me very lethergic. Adding a low dose of Testosterone solved things.

    Dbol alone isnt optimal, but one can keep a % of the gains with a decent PCT, diet and training protocol.

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    What kind of gains were you making?

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    At 21 you shouldnt be cycling. If you decided too, stay away from compounds that aromotase and 19-Nor's.

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    holy shat........10 peolple are telling you what to do!!!!!

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    research dianabol........its not that complicated...good luck

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    mmk im not an expert by any means..... ive done my research.. countless hours in fact. im not gona tell you what to do but honestly i think your post is a complete joke and an insult to this site. first of all if your diet and workout program is shit then why take steroids??? second if your gona take steroids then why take dianabol alone?? (o its because its all you ordered????) dianabol wont do shit inless you stack it with an injectable to keep the gains from it. and your scared of needles. oooook well if your scared of needles then think of the effects of takin all that dianabol and destroying your liver without knowing what the hell your doing. and THEN having to get your stomach CUT open to replace your liver IF your lucky. chances are that wont happn and you will die from liver malfunction!!! dude seriously if you want to change your body u have to change your life. forget about drugs and be all you can be!!!! then if things dont happin do what you want

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    plus its fake anyway. do all you want!!! take your protein powder!!! LOL

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    Some of these posts were humorous to read. Something a lot of you are forgetting is that he is 21, has high bf, and has been working out "on and off" for two years. That means he is not consistent with the gym or any workout routine.

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    either way hankdiesel. takin that much dbol will f u up lol. plus 75% of what you would gain would be lost in 2 months!!!

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    for someone who really has very little experience with anabolics 50mg a day is too much u shouldnt need that much. as for the brand u mentionedi have not heard of it so im assuming it ug brand and prob under dosed more than likely or low quality. 5 of those 10mg tabs wouldnt be the same as taking 10 thai anabols or russians. seems like u have your mind made up though but if u wont inject atleast try and get some winny tabs or var to add.

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    The way your going about this is all wrong,

    dont do steroids at your age

    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



    TRAINING
    You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

    Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

    Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


    DIET
    A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

    No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

    This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

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