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    some might if they had a specific reason to, in this case there would be none.
    in the 80's it was popular to pyramid into and taper out of a cycle. the reason? to slowly ramp up the dosage, then (it was thought) that by tapering out of the dosage the natural levels would begin to rise quicker and you would recover faster. sounds good right? not so fast, the average adult male produces the equivalent of approximately 7mg/day of testosterone, 49mg/week. if the body senses anything above that, it sees no need to produce testosterone. so let's assume the cycle was 500mg/week, and following the theory, you reduce to 400 for a week, then 300, then 200, then 100 for a week, thinking this will allow natural production to start quicker. well at 100mg/week, even subtracting for the ester weight, you are still in excess of what you product naturally, so you are not producing testosterone anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    some might if they had a specific reason to, in this case there would be none.
    in the 80's it was popular to pyramid into and taper out of a cycle. the reason? to slowly ramp up the dosage, then (it was thought) that by tapering out of the dosage the natural levels would begin to rise quicker and you would recover faster. sounds good right? not so fast, the average adult male produces the equivalent of approximately 7mg/day of testosterone, 49mg/week. if the body senses anything above that, it sees no need to produce testosterone. so let's assume the cycle was 500mg/week, and following the theory, you reduce to 400 for a week, then 300, then 200, then 100 for a week, thinking this will allow natural production to start quicker. well at 100mg/week, even subtracting for the ester weight, you are still in excess of what you product naturally, so you are not producing testosterone anyway.
    i see... interesting... and what is with stopping one drug before the other?

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    I'll stop here and make you do some research, in the process of answering that you may also learn some other things you don't even realize you need to know yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I'll stop here and make you do some research, in the process of answering that you may also learn some other things you don't even realize you need to know yet.
    ok...can you point me in the right direction? anything specific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I'll stop here and make you do some research, in the process of answering that you may also learn some other things you don't even realize you need to know yet.
    one guy says during pct you should have one AI and one SERM... what is your opinion on this?

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    I already recommended my preferred pct. there are many different protocols, you will have to find out what works well for you through trial and error. swifto knows a lot about pct and is big on torem, I haven't done a pct in years so I'm not up on newer compounds (or compounds more recently used during pct). what I suggested works very well, but I certainly wouldn't say it's the only right way to do a pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I already recommended my preferred pct. there are many different protocols, you will have to find out what works well for you through trial and error. swifto knows a lot about pct and is big on torem, I haven't done a pct in years so I'm not up on newer compounds (or compounds more recently used during pct). what I suggested works very well, but I certainly wouldn't say it's the only right way to do a pct.
    ok.. i just noticed that earlier u dropped my dose of 600mg/week to 500mg/week... a reason for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I already recommended my preferred pct. there are many different protocols, you will have to find out what works well for you through trial and error. swifto knows a lot about pct and is big on torem, I haven't done a pct in years so I'm not up on newer compounds (or compounds more recently used during pct). what I suggested works very well, but I certainly wouldn't say it's the only right way to do a pct.
    years? you haven't done any pct in years? that would imply you haven't done any cycles in years?

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    I was thinking you may have had an extensive cycle history initially based simply on your join date, then upon reviewing things I'm not sure you have ever ran a proper cycle and pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock_and_God View Post
    years? you haven't done any pct in years? that would imply you haven't done any cycles in years?
    no, I'm on trt. I'm 43 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    no, I'm on trt. I'm 43 years old.
    what is trt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I was thinking you may have had an extensive cycle history initially based simply on your join date, then upon reviewing things I'm not sure you have ever ran a proper cycle and pct.
    im sorry, i dont understand where you're getting at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock_and_God View Post
    im sorry, i dont understand where you're getting at?
    just that great gains can be made at 500mg/week. when I saw your join date I incorrectly assumed that you have been running cycles for 5 years, and were bumping the doses up because you were no longer seeing gains at 500mg/week.

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    Rock and God I would consider asking Ronnie Rowland about your cycle. His thread is one of the stickies titled 'You'll want to Read this!' in the Anabolic steriod section. You will learn everything from the cycle dosages, how to workout properly, diet properly, and what you will need for pct. He has over 37 pages worth of good info and I'm sure what you are wondering has already been asked. Read his sticky and you will learn a lot.

    His theory is to cycle for 20 weeks for optimal results. The 20 week timeframe is made up of 2 'Reloads', that last for 8 weeks, and 2 Deloads, that last for 2 weeks, which totals 20 weeks. Now I'm not Ronnie, but I'm sure he will recommend something along these lines...

    Phase 1
    (1st Reload)
    Weeks 1-8
    Test c or e 500mgs (250mg taken twice per week)
    Anavar 50mgs daily

    Deload
    Weeks 9-10 (deload only last 2 weeks)
    Test c or e 250mgs (one injection of 250mg)
    *Do not take any Anavar* (for only this 2 week period/ deload)

    Phase 2
    (2nd Reload)
    Weeks 11-18
    Test c or e 750mgs (split into 2 weekly injections)
    Anavar 50mgs (or maybe up to 60mg)

    (2nd Deload)
    Weeks 19-20
    Test c or e 250mg (one injection a week)

    And finally pct will be weeks 21-24.

    Go to his thread, you will learn a lot. But read all of his posts if not half of them before asking him questions. You will most likely find the answers your looking for by that point.

    Hope that helps, Good luck with your cycle

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    Dear God........ my head hurts from this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    just that great gains can be made at 500mg/week. when I saw your join date I incorrectly assumed that you have been running cycles for 5 years, and were bumping the doses up because you were no longer seeing gains at 500mg/week.
    i see, thank u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisx View Post
    Rock and God I would consider asking Ronnie Rowland about your cycle. His thread is one of the stickies titled 'You'll want to Read this!' in the Anabolic steriod section. You will learn everything from the cycle dosages, how to workout properly, diet properly, and what you will need for pct. He has over 37 pages worth of good info and I'm sure what you are wondering has already been asked. Read his sticky and you will learn a lot.

    His theory is to cycle for 20 weeks for optimal results. The 20 week timeframe is made up of 2 'Reloads', that last for 8 weeks, and 2 Deloads, that last for 2 weeks, which totals 20 weeks. Now I'm not Ronnie, but I'm sure he will recommend something along these lines...

    Phase 1
    (1st Reload)
    Weeks 1-8
    Test c or e 500mgs (250mg taken twice per week)
    Anavar 50mgs daily

    Deload
    Weeks 9-10 (deload only last 2 weeks)
    Test c or e 250mgs (one injection of 250mg)
    *Do not take any Anavar* (for only this 2 week period/ deload)

    Phase 2
    (2nd Reload)
    Weeks 11-18
    Test c or e 750mgs (split into 2 weekly injections)
    Anavar 50mgs (or maybe up to 60mg)

    (2nd Deload)
    Weeks 19-20
    Test c or e 250mg (one injection a week)

    And finally pct will be weeks 21-24.

    Go to his thread, you will learn a lot. But read all of his posts if not half of them before asking him questions. You will most likely find the answers your looking for by that point.

    Hope that helps, Good luck with your cycle
    i strongly appreciate you.... thank you much... is this the slingshot training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock_and_God View Post
    i strongly appreciate you.... thank you much... is this the slingshot training?
    Yes it is. A couple members have seen great results! I have to admit, I am a believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4R View Post
    Dear God........ my head hurts from this thread
    ya.... thats why I ran away and left it up to Big

    Well played big.... you are a calm man

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock_and_God View Post
    that's what i'm doing... that's why i am asking questions ... !? dont give up on me bertuzzi please... i need u
    i need him to.

    you to read more though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    i need him to.

    you to read more though.
    Awwww.... Stevey, you need me?? Oh, you just made my night... I feel so wanted. Thank you!!

    I have been thinking for some time even before this thread started this guy may be a troll.... Anyone seconding that?

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    rock and god, on ur statement about the rxt adt supps. and how nolva and clomid only help with estrogen, i have been wondering about that myself, i have read the tore is good with bringing back the natural test, works fast, and extremely well, u might want to think about that as a possible pct option, swifto likes to stack it with nolvadex i believe, and u cant go wrong with swiftos pct advise

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