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    Quote Originally Posted by zabster151 View Post
    currently 185lb benching 400
    All from your mom's basement? LOL!!!!! Is there some conspiracy that enables you to bench so much at such a light weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    All from your mom's basement? LOL!!!!! Is there some conspiracy that enables you to bench so much at such a light weight?
    hey now, lol no conspiracy here

    i knew you were going to say something lol all good

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    Quote Originally Posted by zabster151 View Post
    hey now, lol no conspiracy here

    i knew you were going to say something lol all good
    Drug history; training style; diet regime; sleep patterns; mother/father genetics; please provide precise details.



    What training principles do you follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_J8 View Post
    Drug history; training style; diet regime; sleep patterns; mother/father genetics; please provide precise details. eat lots but its clean, training i have posted my routine in other areas but manly workout mon tue "wedoff" thur fri weekends off. lots of sleep, and im 100% italiano my mom side from north Italy, father from Sicily
    i work out half power lifting half stamina training mostly negative work best for any lift i want to incess


    What training principles do you follow?

    eat lots but its clean, training i have posted my routine in other areas but manly workout mon tue "wedoff" thur fri weekends off. lots of sleep, and im 100% italiano my mom side from north Italy, father from Sicily
    i work out half power lifting half stamina training mostly negative work best for any lift i want to incess
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    drugs used manly deca test d-bal some win at talil end of cyc "cant wait to try my anadrol" o yea weed and beer & ltl blow .. you know to keep me sane
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    when I was 16 I did 225lbs now at 38 i barely make 210lbs...

    but I'm aiming for 260lbs before I'm 40

    Im only 188lbs and 6'2"

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    budy of mine is 190 and said he pushes 380. now ive trained with him before and wasnt impressed. so he tells me this and i call b.s. and ask around. he has a bunch of cronnies that worship him to vouch for his statment. he wont come to our gym to pump just his cronnies garage gym. so i ask him what "vitamins" he on and he says none and i know he cycled before cause i helped him out........

    my question: is it possible to bench twice your bodyweight raw and clean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishizzle0927 View Post
    budy of mine is 190 and said he pushes 380. now ive trained with him before and wasnt impressed. so he tells me this and i call b.s. and ask around. he has a bunch of cronnies that worship him to vouch for his statment. he wont come to our gym to pump just his cronnies garage gym. so i ask him what "vitamins" he on and he says none and i know he cycled before cause i helped him out........

    my question: is it possible to bench twice your bodyweight raw and clean?
    yeah.. i benched 405 3x which is 441 on the 1rm calculator when i weighed 215.. that was on juice

    i did 365 4 times naturally which is 408 on the 1rm when i weighed 200lbs.. i did it using this program where you do bench 2 times a week and do reps like 6,6,4,4 one day and 3,3,neg,neg, the next.. with negs you would put more weight that you can do with a 1rm and lower it as slow as you can with spot there just to make sure you don't drop it.. put 50lbs on my bench in ten weeks.. did it again about a month or two after and put another 30lbs on my bench.. it was more complicated then what i said above but that is the jist of it.. Negatives will blow your 1rm through the roof.. to bad i work out alone, would love to run it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    yeah.. i benched 405 3x which is 441 on the 1rm calculator when i weighed 215.. that was on juice

    i did 365 4 times naturally which is 408 on the 1rm when i weighed 200lbs.. i did it using this program where you do bench 2 times a week and do reps like 6,6,4,4 one day and 3,3,neg,neg, the next.. with negs you would put more weight that you can do with a 1rm and lower it as slow as you can with spot there just to make sure you don't drop it.. put 50lbs on my bench in ten weeks.. did it again about a month or two after and put another 30lbs on my bench.. it was more complicated then what i said above but that is the jist of it.. Negatives will blow your 1rm through the roof.. to bad i work out alone, would love to run it again.
    It wasn't 'Critical Bench Program'?

    I enjoy negatives in the power cage with pins. Don't need a spot that way.

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    Yeah for sure. I train with 2 guys that bench 2 x BW raw, they are equipt lifters though..... They are clean at the moment, but I don't know if any of them have cycled before.

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    no.. not critical bench.. here is the program.. and this one is free:

    explanation of the program here:
    http://www.weightrainer.net/spreadsheets/add50.html

    charts and numbers here:
    http://www.weightrainer.net/spreadsheets/mm2kadd50.html

    now i am sure yo can do DB bench and all that too if you want since there is only three workouts a day on this routine

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    no.. not critical bench.. here is the program.. and this one is free:

    explanation of the program here:
    http://www.weightrainer.net/spreadsheets/add50.html

    charts and numbers here:
    http://www.weightrainer.net/spreadsheets/mm2kadd50.html

    now i am sure yo can do DB bench and all that too if you want since there is only three workouts a day on this routine
    I will check this out - thanks.

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    these are all raw no wraps no belts no shirts nothing but me and no supplemts
    405 bench
    505 squat
    600 deadlift
    body weight 230
    ht 5'10 long arms for benching though

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    Not even going to post my numbers..

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    a lot of people are shy about posting thier numbers, but the truth is so many train just to stay in shape and/or to get bigger and for the most part thats not what makes your numbers grow.

    if you want to get stronger you actually have to lift for strength, and its different than body building or general health.

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    I wholeheartedly agree with you Quarry (plus the bench press is the most overrated exercise in the weightroom, IMO). I also think a lot of people are looking for a magic routine to make their numbers grow. Being 37 and in the powerlifting game since 15, I've tried just about every routine out there, including being on AAS and off. And from what I've found, there is no perfect routine. I switch routines 2-3 times a year and they are all personal variations of popular routines, but they are tailored to what feels good to me. A lot of routines don't take into consideration real life outside influences. They are way too regimented and structured. Some call for sets of 90% of your max, but the fact remains it doesn't take into account that I may have had a hard day at work, hard day with the kids or wife, and just didn't enough sleep at night. So because I did more harm than good with those structured routines, I lift for how I feel. Sometimes I feel like going stupid heavy, sometimes I just feel like doing some high rep bodybuilder type stuff. But because I lift like this, I'm almost as strong as I ever have been and I haven't touched AAS in years.

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    250 lol and I have every excuse for why I am only benching 250.... And I want to be a powerlifter......hahahahaha
    Deadlift 545 and squat 495 though... Weak....Worthless....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmk327 View Post
    Deadlift 545 and squat 495 though... Weak....Worthless....
    Great numbers.

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    I'm 6'0" long arms and kinda long legs but not too long

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    ^^^Gotta start somewhere brotha!

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    Any advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmk327 View Post
    Any advice
    Learn the lifts...technique, technique, technique!! Don't fall for the latest and greatest gimmicks. Core strength is essential. I don't know how you're built, and if you lift raw or geared. But if you're a raw lifter like me, remember your big numbers come from the squat and dead so leave the ego at home and get those lifts up.

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    i hit paralell in my squats but hit that make with really wide stance and engage my back a bit like a powerlifter

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    around 450 at 6'3 260 no shirt no drugs. I can't remember exactly what i hit in the gym, it was not 455 though. A goal was 500 raw, i may work on it now as i dont think i will put a shirt a back on. I build a gym in the basement of my office. For the guys who wear shirts, especially the lanky ones like myself, your raw yo yos so much becaue you never really get a long enough time to work it. My raw strength would plummet when i started training in a shirt, and i suck at it, lol.

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    lol, nowhere near the numbers some of you guys have...

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    I just started lifting again but 3 years ago after 12 months of training (bench was my best lift)
    I was doing 3x5's at 335 (I never maxed out, usually worked out alone) and I weighed 175 pounds.

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    ............was going to say something about the above post, but I won't.

    I will say this. This is the powerlifting section. So if your benches aren't done in the following manner, it doesn't count here (may count in the bodybuilding world, though):

    1. All the way down - no knock on a bodybuilder bench in which you go half way down and back up
    2. Paused at the bottom - ie no bouncing and no "all you" spots.
    3. Not done on a machine of any type - ie no smith machine, no hammer strength, etc.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    ............was going to say something about the above post, but I won't.

    I will say this. This is the powerlifting section. So if your benches aren't done in the following manner, it doesn't count here (may count in the bodybuilding world, though):

    1. All the way down - no knock on a bodybuilder bench in which you go half way down and back up
    2. Paused at the bottom - ie no bouncing and no "all you" spots.
    3. Not done on a machine of any type - ie no smith machine, no hammer strength, etc.

    Thanks.
    I'm assuming you don't beleive me or think I was doing half-reps, to be honest my chest gets strong really fast, all my other lifts are garbage, I was squatting a little over bodyweight at the time. But it's ok it's the internet and I know most people are full of it because no one at my gym could bench anywhere near what I could and everyone on here claims big numbers.

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    I put up 295 when I was at a body weight of 175. natty obv. I'm also 6'1
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    Most of the guys on here, Justsayno, have already established their credibility. So with that said, there is a stronger chance of belief. You're a completely new member claiming outrages numbers. 335, raw, for 5 reps for multiple sets at 175lbs is WORLD CLASS! That puts your max at probably around the 370-380. Which means, with a pause, would put you in the top 10 of many powerlifting orgs. I didn't say you didn't do it, I just have a hard time believing it. Sorry! And being around powerlifting and being a powerlifter for over 20yrs, I've seen some freaks and if what you say is true, you are a freak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Most of the guys on here, Justsayno, have already established their credibility. So with that said, there is a stronger chance of belief. You're a completely new member claiming outrages numbers. 335, raw, for 5 reps for multiple sets at 175lbs is WORLD CLASS! That puts your max at probably around the 370-380. Which means, with a pause, would put you in the top 10 of many powerlifting orgs. I didn't say you didn't do it, I just have a hard time believing it. Sorry! And being around powerlifting and being a powerlifter for over 20yrs, I've seen some freaks and if what you say is true, you are a freak.
    Well a note about me, I know this sounds stupid but the ORM calculators are completely inaccurate for me. Anytime I max on a lift its just BARELY over what I do reps/sets. I don't know why that is but when I was doing sets of bench at 295 (5 reps) I tried to max 315 and got stuck halfway up. I was able to add the little 2.5's almost every week and just consistently go up, none of my other lifts were like that. About pausing I have no idea, I don't bounce it off my chest but I kinda of bounced it off my shoulderblade inflexibility, I'm not sure if that makes sense. If I come down with good momentum it comes up fast, it feels like a bounce. If that truely is a good weight maybe I should considering competeing when I get strong again.

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    Bgmc31...im 6'2 210..how much weight would I need to bench in order to impress you?(no homo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigd89 View Post
    Bgmc31...im 6'2 210..how much weight would I need to bench in order to impress you?(no homo)
    It's not about impressing me, its about not inflating numbers. Why do people keep posting their heights? That is why this is in the powerlifting section. Height doesn't matter and in a powerlifting comp, you can't make an excuse that you were beat in a certain weight class because you were taller than someone else or the guy had shorter arms. So whether you're 6'2 or 5'2 its of no consequence to me as a powerlifter. I've been totally destroyed in the bench press in many contest because I'm 6'4 with an 84" wingspan, but I can use that as an excuse.

    But back to your question, an impressive raw bench for someone at 210lbs would be in the low 400s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    It's not about impressing me, its about not inflating numbers. Why do people keep posting their heights? That is why this is in the powerlifting section. Height doesn't matter and in a powerlifting comp, you can't make an excuse that you were beat in a certain weight class because you were taller than someone else or the guy had shorter arms. So whether you're 6'2 or 5'2 its of no consequence to me as a powerlifter. I've been totally destroyed in the bench press in many contest because I'm 6'4 with an 84" wingspan, but I can use that as an excuse.

    But back to your question, an impressive raw bench for someone at 210lbs would be in the low 400s.
    Lol im not butting in to you and justsayno conversation. You say your a powerlifter, im just curious to see what number would impress you as a powerlifter...that's all. Oh, and uh..I didn't think the height really matters I just figured you wanted to know lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigd89 View Post
    Lol im not butting in to you and justsayno conversation. You say your a powerlifter, im just curious to see what number would impress you as a powerlifter...that's all. Oh, and uh..I didn't think the height really matters I just figured you wanted to know lol
    I guess I'm basing this off a pretty small sample but my friend I used to lift with is 6'4" with really long arms and he couldn't bench for shit, it seems like the weight would have more leverage on your body if your arms were longer (making it more difficult) I'm basing this purely off speculation though I don't know anything about powerlifting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigd89 View Post
    Lol im not butting in to you and justsayno conversation. You say your a powerlifter, im just curious to see what number would impress you as a powerlifter...that's all. Oh, and uh..I didn't think the height really matters I just figured you wanted to know lol
    Like I said above, at 210lbs low 400s would be impressive to me. Anything above 2x bodyweight is very impressive at any weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justsayno View Post
    I guess I'm basing this off a pretty small sample but my friend I used to lift with is 6'4" with really long arms and he couldn't bench for shit, it seems like the weight would have more leverage on your body if your arms were longer (making it more difficult) I'm basing this purely off speculation though I don't know anything about powerlifting
    Long arms makes a huge difference in benching. Like I said, I'm 6'4 with an 84" wingspan. That's 7'! LOL!! My bench pales in comparison to the guys I compete against. I usually compete in the 308lb class or the Super Hvy which is, obviously 308+. Most guys at the elite level or benching in the mid 600's raw, but most are only 5'10-6'. Much shorter arms. So they smoke me in the bench, but most can't deadlift for shit because of their leverages, that's my forte is the deadlift.

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    Yeah I figured that was the case I've never seen a tall guy bench anything respectable, but my friend was an awesome deadlifter/squatter. On a side note, not to derail this conversation but I just uploaded some of my climbing pictures to my profile how do I make one of them my avatar I didn't see a button for it anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justsayno View Post
    Yeah I figured that was the case I've never seen a tall guy bench anything respectable, but my friend was an awesome deadlifter/squatter. On a side note, not to derail this conversation but I just uploaded some of my climbing pictures to my profile how do I make one of them my avatar I didn't see a button for it anywhere
    I wouldn't say my 575 (single ply shirt) and 525 raw bench aren't respectable, but hey, whatever! LOL!!!

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    I wouldn't say my 575 (single ply shirt) and 525 raw bench aren't respectable, but hey, whatever! LOL!!!
    Haha jesus, yeah I think that more than qualifies.... I'd love to go to a powerlifting gym sometime and see some people lifting heavy weight, every gym I ever go to I'm the only one not on some stupid machine looking around or doing curls in the mirror

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justsayno View Post
    Haha jesus, yeah I think that more than qualifies.... I'd love to go to a powerlifting gym sometime and see some people lifting heavy weight, every gym I ever go to I'm the only one not on some stupid machine looking around or doing curls in the mirror
    Go to powerliftingwatch.com they have listings of hardcore gyms all over the world. Check them out to see if there is one in your area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Go to powerliftingwatch.com they have listings of hardcore gyms all over the world. Check them out to see if there is one in your area.
    Sweet thanks man, I'm in Delaware for the next 6 weeks, but I'm moving back to Salt Lake and theres a powerlifting gym right by my house. I had never even heard of the place. I'm gonna lift on my own for another few months untill I get reasonably strong again then I'd like to check those guys out. I bet I could get really good on the bench with some proper coaching, Im stoked.

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