Erection Problems...

[devildog1967]

Answers in bold.

I still dont understand your comment how blasting on trt is more dangerous then cycling and doing pct. If you are already on trt the damages to your natural production is already done. THere is really nothing to risk

So if i dont know a great deal ! Are cycling steroids safe or not ? If the answer is yes to that question then why dont people take large cycles all year long ? If the answer is no there not safe then you have your answer why cycling while on TRT is dangerous. As i said TRT is about keeping all levels stable to a near natural level , If the oestrogen rises then the doc would lower the level of the test . Now if your cycling while on TRT the chances are that you would have to get a AI . So again you would be messing with the levels the doc put you on. Now here is the fun part! having larger than normal test levels gives you MORE chance of having a high RBC . where on medicated TRT at a low dose does not always run your RBC so high if at all . Yes people get away with it with donating . But thats not the point . You say you know your levels to return them back to normal ? You dont go for blood test that often? So you are saying your not getting older so your levels will never drop E.C.T thats how you know your levels(ITS NOT JUST THE TEST LEVELS THINK OF THE FULL BLOOD PANEL ) . If you had a headache would you take 2 pain killers ? Or maybe directions on a pack dont count and there is no more risk in taking 100 to kill the pain (INSTRUCTIONS AND DIRECTIONS ARE THERE FOR A REASON). Thats what medicated TRT is all about keeping at a stated level and not risking health . after all why do people go to the docs for TRT. I cant see the point if you are not going to follow instructions just wasting the docs time .

You say your not on TRT ?

[gixxerboy1]

If your going to blast while on TRT then you may as well just cycle AAS and PCT after and dont bother with doing TRT.

if you had low test levels before how can you cycle and pct. you will still have low test when you come back off. trt is testosterone replacement therapy. Running higher dose is still replacing what you are missing.

why blast when your on TRT . Thats when you run into trouble , If your hormones were messed up before TRT and the TRT cured it then why would you want to mess it up with adding more too the mix. People take TRT because the have health issues . Im saying if you are going to mess around with your treatment and cycle extra then what is the point in going for TRT ? I do TRT at only 100mg from 200mg and would not dream of messing my excellent results . Also keeping it low will help estrogen that means no AI. I do TRT for heath reasons NOT vanity .

Plus cycling while on TRT is more dangerous ..

I thought you didnt say that, The point of going on trt is because your test levels are low. Blasting cycling what ever you want to call it is still going to give you elevated test levels and fix the problems you already had

Iv done 3 cycles of sus 250 1 mil a week for 8 weeks about 9y ago. I have trained natural a part from that( been training for over 20y). only been doing TRT for 10 weeks to treat low sex drive and depression . And yes that me in the pic .

again you have no actual experience

Are cycling steroids safe or not ? If the answer is yes to that question then why dont people take large cycles all year long ? If the answer is no there not safe then you have your answer why cycling while on TRT is dangerous.

i cant do this anymore. You really do lack the understand of cycling or even trt.

[devildog1967]

I will leave it at that and i will do it the TRT way we all have to agree to differ sometimes

Thanks for the debate

Good luck Bro

[Tres']

damn....well I went on hrt or trt with a family history of lower levels. I never had a problem with my sex drive or erections before I went on. I did have a full blood panel done after my cycle...it was all in the normal range. Did not get the estro checked though, next time I will.

Thanks for the help guys..I am back to working order ^_^

[auslifta]

damn....well I went on hrt or trt with a family history of lower levels. I never had a problem with my sex drive or erections before I went on. I did have a full blood panel done after my cycle...it was all in the normal range. Did not get the estro checked though, next time I will.

Thanks for the help guys..I am back to working order ^_^

Good to hear. Yeah next time, full blood panel means everything.

[mike10]

Tres what did u do to fix ur problem and how long did it take u ? are things back to normal now ?

[Tres']

Tres what did u do to fix ur problem and how long did it take u ? are things back to normal now ?

This thread is getting heavy!! Mike10....I got back on my hrt and got cialis from the doc. I got back on both at about the same time and
I was back to full strength in a matter of days! Took me 4 months to get to that point though...what a waste of time!

[Fit N Fun]

If I was facing erectile problems, I would try a PCT, before resigning myself to a life on HRT.

You might also want to try some Low dose Naltrexone while on your HRT to get your HPTA working along with some HCG so that your nuts are full size for about a month.

Then I would do a full PCT, Swifto has discussed this PCT scenario on here before about how to try and get your system back after two years on cycle, I think the OP should read that before giving up.

Nothing to loose but plenty to gain.

Also you may find that Low dose Naltrexone would support your erectile function like HRT does, so might be another option for you to consider.

[Gi812Many]

Hahahaha, WOW hijacked thread for sure!! LOL Hey Tres hows the weener doing?

[Lemonada8]

When you did your cycle there was no reason to stop the test cyp TRT shots that you were taking. Whatever you want to use as a cycle, you just add it on top. There is a info thread on " blast and cruise" that is aimed towards TRT people.
As for doing a PCT, there is no need to do so. Same with naltrexone, since you are already on TRT you dont need to restimulate the long feedback regulation. HCG is beneficial on cycle to maintain testicular size and ITT which can help maintain spermatogensis, if you are thinking of kids in the future.
also, some other issues that TRT people have is an imbalance on 'brain' hormones, so adding in 2 supplements will also help the issue. DHEA and Pregnegolone are both precursors to testosterone, but their concentrations are mainly in the brain.
Those are some ideas for the future if you have any more issues

[Fit N Fun]

When you did your cycle there was no reason to stop the test cyp TRT shots that you were taking. Whatever you want to use as a cycle, you just add it on top. There is a info thread on " blast and cruise" that is aimed towards TRT people.
As for doing a PCT, there is no need to do so. Same with naltrexone, since you are already on TRT you dont need to restimulate the long feedback regulation. HCG is beneficial on cycle to maintain testicular size and ITT which can help maintain spermatogensis, if you are thinking of kids in the future.
also, some other issues that TRT people have is an imbalance on 'brain' hormones, so adding in 2 supplements will also help the issue. DHEA and Pregnegolone are both precursors to testosterone, but their concentrations are mainly in the brain.
Those are some ideas for the future if you have any more issues

Lemonada8, nice post.

Clearly my last post was aimed at re-starting the OP natural testosterone production, if there is no interest in that, then please ignore

[dec11]

OP, you sound like you havnt a clue what you are doing, best to educate yourself in these matters before going any further

[devildog1967]

OP, you sound like you havnt a clue what you are doing, best to educate yourself in these matters before going any further

Please dec11 tell us all in your wealth of knowledge of the human hormone system as you seem to say you know it all .. Im i oar of you oh mighty one .

So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ????
So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ???
So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ??
So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ?
Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ?
Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2?
Are you on TRT?

So too me he had a problem NOT with TRT but the blasting which took his E2 levels too high.

Why do doctors keep patients on as low as possible TRT treatment ? Maybe its because too much extra hormones can cause too much side effects . But i know nothing about TRT.

[dec11]

Please dec11 tell us all in your wealth of knowledge of the human hormone system as you seem to say you know it all .. Im i oar of you oh mighty one .

So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ????
So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ???
So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ??
So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ?
Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ?
Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2?
Are you on TRT?

So too me he had a problem NOT with TRT but the blasting which took his E2 levels too high.

Why do doctors keep patients on as low as possible TRT treatment ? Maybe its because too much extra hormones can cause too much side effects . But i know nothing about TRT.

you're obviously an idiot and not worth debating with, as im on trt and have blasted on it with no probs, i think im in a better position to advise someone. sheer ignorance, arguing about something you've no clue about

[devildog1967]

you're obviously an idiot and not worth debating with, as im on trt and have blasted on it with no probs, i think im in a better position to advise someone. sheer ignorance, arguing about something you've no clue about

But can only answer 1 question . you advice people to play with there health when TRT is for medical reasons. That shows your ignorance when you cant answer the other questions honestly . And you say i have no clue ...lol..And calling someone a idiot is the lowest form of wit at least i have the maturity not to call someone play ground names. Get a grip . Dont give advice if you cant answer the questions on medical grounds as TRT is medical.

[dec11]

But can only answer 1 question . you advice people to play with there health when TRT is for medical reasons. That shows your ignorance when you cant answer the other questions honestly . And you say i have no clue ...lol..And calling someone a idiot is the lowest form of wit at least i have the maturity not to call someone play ground names. Get a grip . Dont give advice if you cant answer the questions on medical grounds as TRT is medical.

wtf are you slabbering about? im one of the most cautious on here when it comes to advising. your here 5mins and making assumptions on ppl who know how this site works. we'll see how long you last

[gixxerboy1]

But can only answer 1 question . you advice people to play with there health when TRT is for medical reasons. That shows your ignorance when you cant answer the other questions honestly . And you say i have no clue ...lol..And calling someone a idiot is the lowest form of wit at least i have the maturity not to call someone play ground names. Get a grip . Dont give advice if you cant answer the questions on medical grounds as TRT is medical.

blasting is no more of a risk then cycling. Its actually less. Because you don't have to worry about restoring your natural test production since you are on TRT. What are you not understanding?

So if you think people on trt shouldn't blast then normal people should never cycle and we should just shut this site down

[devildog1967]

And maybe dec11 you should stop blasting cuz i think you have anger issues .. Another side affect..

[gixxerboy1]

forget it. then stick to the trt section on here. that's apparently where you are more suited.
I can tell by your last post this isnt about the dangers of it or screwing trt up.

[Shol'va]

[gixxerboy1]

^^^ have i told you that i love you today

[devildog1967]

Why would i be jelly ? Iv got nothing against people who blast , Why would i ? There are some on here that take TRT serious and some here that have TRT to solve health problems then blast and moan they are having problems again. Just cant see the logic in that .. I dont give a monkeys toss who dose what . It seems silly to me why go to all that hard work to get prescribed TRT just to blast it and potentially cause yourself problems which we see on here day after day in black and white. Maybe im on another planet but i would not take 100 aspirins for a headache when 2 will do.

[Shol'va]

Why would i be jelly ? Iv got nothing against people who blast , Why would i ? There are some on here that take TRT serious and some here that have TRT to solve health problems then blast and moan they are having problems again. Just cant see the logic in that .. I dont give a monkeys toss who dose what . It seems silly to me why go to all that hard work to get prescribed TRT just to blast it and potentially cause yourself problems which we see on here day after day in black and white. Maybe im on another planet but i would not take 100 aspirins for a headache when 2 will do.

Again you are missing the point. It's not hard work to get on TRT if you legitimately need it for low-T. And for the majority of those on TRT they use it as prescribed for controlling their low-T. However I repeat However this is a steroid site and those few who are on TRT blast and cruise as part of their overall bodybuilding efforts, which they have considered through coming to this site and reading up on the possible pros and cons and then made their own conscientious educated decision to go ahead with the Blast and cruise. Again these are bodybuilders doing this knowing full well the possible consequences, and not some John Doe down the street. ( well for the most part)

[devildog1967]

Again you are missing the point. It's not hard work to get on TRT if you legitimately need it for low-T. And for the majority of those on TRT they use it as prescribed for controlling their low-T. However I repeat However this is a steroid site and those few who are on TRT blast and cruise as part of their overall bodybuilding efforts, which they have considered through coming to this site and reading up on the possible pros and cons and then made their own conscientious educated decision to go ahead with the Blast and cruise. Again these are bodybuilders doing this knowing full well the possible consequences, and not some John Doe down the street. ( well for the most part)

thanks

[Shol'va]

thanks

Your welcome, but it's also possible I'll win the lottery too but realistically that ain't gonna happen either.

[dec11]

Again you are missing the point. It's not hard work to get on TRT if you legitimately need it for low-T. And for the majority of those on TRT they use it as prescribed for controlling their low-T. However I repeat However this is a steroid site and those few who are on TRT blast and cruise as part of their overall bodybuilding efforts, which they have considered through coming to this site and reading up on the possible pros and cons and then made their own conscientious educated decision to go ahead with the Blast and cruise. Again these are bodybuilders doing this knowing full well the possible consequences, and not some John Doe down the street. ( well for the most part)

no point mate, someone has got an empty space between their ears.

wonder if he goes on car forums to tell ppl they should walk instead of drive?

[Shol'va]

no point mate, someone has got an empty space between their ears.

wonder if he goes on car forums to tell ppl they should walk instead of drive?

Well since this thread is titled erection problems ya suppose he has an erection problem? That would tend to make him mad at the world and want to take it out on someone instead of whip it out on someone.

[dec11]

Well since this thread is titled erection problems ya suppose he has an erection problem? That would tend to make him mad at the world and want to take it out on someone instead of whip it out on someone.

hes not the OP

[Shol'va]

Judging from some of your posts it seems you think that nearly everyone is going on TRT just so they can somehow get free gear from the pharmacy through their insurance company and cheat the system to blast and cruise legally. and your fear is that this will make it harder for those others that need TRT treatment not to be able to get it if the doctors find out that people are using their TRT prescriptions for blasting. This is an unfounded fear as there is no way the docs are going to prescribe enough monthly to ever do a blast cycle.

[Lemonada8]

Judging from some of your posts it seems you think that nearly everyone is going on TRT just so they can somehow get free gear from the pharmacy through their insurance company and cheat the system to blast and cruise legally. and your fear is that this will make it harder for those others that need TRT treatment not to be able to get it if the doctors find out that people are using their TRT prescriptions for blasting. This is an unfounded fear as there is no way the docs are going to prescribe enough monthly to ever do a blast cycle.

now that is arguable to a point, but WAY off topic ;-)

[devildog1967]

No sorry i dont have ED thanks for asking(MY WIFE CAN VOUCH FOR THAT) . And i hope people dont ask you 2 for help as we all know how you like to take the raz out of the inflicted . ED is not a joke . Gyno in your case dec11 is bloody funny as its self inflicted may be you should think of a sex change . You say blasting is fine while on TRT..lol funny how you need AI to sort your lady problems out. See if you just kept on your medicated TRT and not blasted with your own under ground AS then you prob would not have any gyno problems, As you stated you need a AI when your cycling . ( so TRT must be altered and not for the good )

People that cycle know the risks and handle them there selves and dont use TRT as a stepping block . Why inform people to cycle while on medicated TRT? Should you be helping them to have all the benefits of just keeping to a standard protocol . As the benifits of TRT out way the bens of blasting , If that said person had health issues before TRT. Yes i know people will blast while on TRT and you cant stop that . But just cuz you do it it dont mean you have to encourage others too , you should be giving informed choices. And as YOU know the risks of GYNO are very high while blasting.

[marcus300]

No sorry i dont have ED thanks for asking(MY WIFE CAN VOUCH FOR THAT) . And i hope people dont ask you 2 for help as we all know how you like to take the raz out of the inflicted . ED is not a joke . Gyno in your case dec11 is bloody funny as its self inflicted may be you should think of a sex change . You say blasting is fine while on TRT..lol funny how you need AI to sort your lady problems out. See if you just kept on your medicated TRT and not blasted with your own under ground AS then you prob would not have any gyno problems, As you stated you need a AI when your cycling . ( so TRT must be altered and not for the good )

People that cycle know the risks and handle them there selves and dont use TRT as a stepping block . Why inform people to cycle while on medicated TRT? Should you be helping them to have all the benefits of just keeping to a standard protocol . As the benifits of TRT out way the bens of blasting , If that said person had health issues before TRT. Yes i know people will blast while on TRT and you cant stop that . But just cuz you do it it dont mean you have to encourage others too , you should be giving informed choices. And as YOU know the risks of GYNO are very high while blasting.

Your talking in riddles, its like your going on about something what this thread isnt debating about. The OP blasted because he know doubts wants to go on cycle, he wants to build some muscle tissue more than any TRT can do. This is a steroid board, he posted in the steroid section asking about TRT and blasting and your going on about members encouraging him to go on cycle! You clearly have no idea what your on about have zero experience in the matter and don't fully understand what everyone is talking about, so I would seriously stop before you look even worse than you do. Are you taking other medication other than trt?

[dec11]

No sorry i dont have ED thanks for asking(MY WIFE CAN VOUCH FOR THAT) . And i hope people dont ask you 2 for help as we all know how you like to take the raz out of the inflicted . ED is not a joke . Gyno in your case dec11 is bloody funny as its self inflicted may be you should think of a sex change . You say blasting is fine while on TRT..lol funny how you need AI to sort your lady problems out. See if you just kept on your medicated TRT and not blasted with your own under ground AS then you prob would not have any gyno problems, As you stated you need a AI when your cycling . ( so TRT must be altered and not for the good )

People that cycle know the risks and handle them there selves and dont use TRT as a stepping block . Why inform people to cycle while on medicated TRT? Should you be helping them to have all the benefits of just keeping to a standard protocol . As the benifits of TRT out way the bens of blasting , If that said person had health issues before TRT. Yes i know people will blast while on TRT and you cant stop that . But just cuz you do it it dont mean you have to encourage others too , you should be giving informed choices. And as YOU know the risks of GYNO are very high while blasting.

you are a clueless fool who is just looking stupider by the post.

what is your problem? are you the son of Mary Whitehouse? take your anti steroid crusade elsewhere because incase you havent noticed, THIS IS AN AAS DEDICATED FORUM!!!!!

[The Titan99]

Seriously, self-medicated? EVERYONE ON HERE!!! I was told by a little skinny doctor to eat 100 grams of protein a day, do 20 minutes of brisk walking a day for exercise and then he took out a a little slide rule thing out of his pocket and told me I was borderline obese and needed to loose 50 lbs.(I'm 6'2" 250 lbs). I was the same BF% as in my Avatar!!!! What an a$$hole!!!

If we're going to go by what Doctor and FDA guidelines are telling us, we wouldn't be who we are or look like we look or do what we do. WTF!!?? Who's side are you on Dog? I could post a picture of a 47 year old doctor friend of mine. He looks like my Dad did before he died.

Everyone on here is already 24 hrs a day dedicated to the complete opposite of what your preaching. SHEESH!!!

[devildog1967]

I don't take any other medication thanks! as i dont need to, tell a lie i take anti acid for heartburn . I know what the doctors tell me and how the affects of HRT work. I also talk to him about blasting as i can talk about it as i dont do it. HRT is for medical reasons .. not vanity . If you cant see the diff about HRT and steroid use and the purpose then maybe you need to educate yourselves and why people take HRT . Would you advice your wife / gf to take steroids if she was on HRT ? Or maybe the 20y old that comes on here with low test levels .. I think in that case you would flame the 20y old and tell him to train and diet well and he would feel insulted as he was just trying to improve his life. HRT is not about gaining muscle its about the well being of the person . Blasting is about gaining muscle . Maybe you need to discuss with a qualified doctor as there is not one doctor that will agree with what you say. again HRT is for health reasons and people cry for help from there doctors and 9 times out of 10 they sort it with minimal side effects. Blasting on the other hand has a string of sides .. Thick blood,high E2 , gyno , loss of sex drive , ED.. the list goes on .

But i think its time the mods closed this thread .. as i dont matter what i say you will just keep slatting and saying everything is all ok. And not even glimps at the negs of blasting .

[gixxerboy1]

I don't take any other medication thanks! as i dont need to, tell a lie i take anti acid for heartburn . I know what the doctors tell me and how the affects of HRT work. I also talk to him about blasting as i can talk about it as i dont do it. HRT is for medical reasons .. not vanity . If you cant see the diff about HRT and steroid use and the purpose then maybe you need to educate yourselves and why people take HRT . Would you advice your wife / gf to take steroids if she was on HRT ? Or maybe the 20y old that comes on here with low test levels .. I think in that case you would flame the 20y old and tell him to train and diet well and he would feel insulted as he was just trying to improve his life. HRT is not about gaining muscle its about the well being of the person . Blasting is about gaining muscle . Maybe you need to discuss with a qualified doctor as there is not one doctor that will agree with what you say. again HRT is for health reasons and people cry for help from there doctors and 9 times out of 10 they sort it with minimal side effects. Blasting on the other hand has a string of sides .. Thick blood,high E2 , gyno , loss of sex drive , ED.. the list goes on .

But i think its time the mods closed this thread .. as i dont matter what i say you will just keep slatting and saying everything is all ok. And not even glimps at the negs of blasting .

my head is going to explode.
yes everyone else is wrong but you. Guys with more knowledge, and have actually done it. You know what blasting can do to you. All the bad things of cycling but you cycled a couple times 9 years ago and been on trt for 10 weeks.
Just cause someone uses an ai doesn't mean they have gyno. Just because E2 may be a little elevated it doesn't give them ED. You are absolutely clueless

[marcus300]

I don't take any other medication thanks! as i dont need to, tell a lie i take anti acid for heartburn . I know what the doctors tell me and how the affects of HRT work. I also talk to him about blasting as i can talk about it as i dont do it. HRT is for medical reasons .. not vanity . If you cant see the diff about HRT and steroid use and the purpose then maybe you need to educate yourselves and why people take HRT . Would you advice your wife / gf to take steroids if she was on HRT ? Or maybe the 20y old that comes on here with low test levels .. I think in that case you would flame the 20y old and tell him to train and diet well and he would feel insulted as he was just trying to improve his life. HRT is not about gaining muscle its about the well being of the person . Blasting is about gaining muscle . Maybe you need to discuss with a qualified doctor as there is not one doctor that will agree with what you say. again HRT is for health reasons and people cry for help from there doctors and 9 times out of 10 they sort it with minimal side effects. Blasting on the other hand has a string of sides .. Thick blood,high E2 , gyno , loss of sex drive , ED.. the list goes on .

But i think its time the mods closed this thread .. as i dont matter what i say you will just keep slatting and saying everything is all ok. And not even glimps at the negs of blasting .

Again I have to ask what are you reading to come up with something completely different. Yes we all know HRT is a hormonal replacement therapy for people who are suffering with low or unbalanced hormonal levels. Did I state it wasn't? no I wouldn't advice my girlfriend to take steroids if she was on HRT, Who said they would? and you seem to think I actually said something what a doctor wouldn't agree with, would you like to quote me in the post above what a doctor wouldn't agree with me on? because all I can see is me state the facts of this thread and I haven't put an opinion or gave advice. Come on lets see my opinion and my advice were a doctor would disagree with??

Steroid use is what bodybuilders implement to build muscle tissue, sides are controlled and risk's are understood and if they want to run a cycle and their stats show they at this stage and level then each one of us will give our opinion.

Some of us on here have years of experience in steroid use and HRT and each and everyone of us will give our opinion.

Did you use to take some other form of medication what you have recently stopped in the last few months or year? be truthful?


Why would I close the thread, the OP doesn't want it closing. What I will do though is leave the thread because I can see its pointless you just dont understand.

[devildog1967]

Yes i did take other meds and now i dont thanks to TRT @ low dose. why would i risk taking more AAS when TRT solved my problems ? Maybe im wrong in not messing around with other AAS. Im not against AAS one bit my best mate competes at top level and has pins sticking out of all places..lol.Iv worked 20y and still work in the gym environment instructing from GP referred the novice to the professional bb (And many on TRT)... I see steroids every single day of my life as thats the nature of the beast.

so please dont judge .. my end point is medicated TRT works wonders at correcting in balance in the hormones . And i personally would not mess the balance JUST IN CASE.. What everyone on here dose is there personal preference and good luck to them.

[marcus300]

Yes i did take other meds and now i dont thanks to TRT @ low dose. why would i risk taking more AAS when TRT solved my problems ? Maybe im wrong in not messing around with other AAS. Im not against AAS one bit my best mate competes at top level and has pins sticking out of all places..lol.Iv worked 20y and still work in the gym environment instructing from GP referred the novice to the professional bb (And many on TRT)... I see steroids every single day of my life as thats the nature of the beast.

so please dont judge .. my end point is medicated TRT works wonders at correcting in balance in the hormones . And i personally would not mess the balance JUST IN CASE.. What everyone on here dose is there personal preference and good luck to them.

You totally disregarded my questions in my post lol oh your a odd ball for sure.

I can see I am wasting my time with you and ive found out why

Now I know why you cant understand what all of us are trying to say http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...trt&highlight=

I am no doctor but I would consider going back on your medication for your mental health problems, even though you cant see it yourself many of us can. Best of luck and I hope you work things out and things become more clearer

[devildog1967]

Maybe if you read my thread saying about gf and advice on AAS E.C.T was it directed to you ..urm nope it was a general statement saying would any body do that. As meaning your all very quick to advice people about AAS while on TRT. The doctor part ...bloody hell.. a doctor would not advice anyone to blast while doing medicated TRT..

And dont get personal about mental health as i have paperwork stating im sound in mind PMSL..HAVE YOU?? many people suffer with mental health issues . Do you look in the mirror and dont like what you see ? Thats why you do AAS to try and make yourself pleasing to your own eye. And still you will think god im fat/thin ..or i need to bulk that or lose a bit there.. And wonder what AAS will achieve that.. Thats called body dis-morphia which is a mental illness . I bet most of you walk around shops looking in the window or the nearest mirror . Steroid also cause mental health problems .. aggression in some depression in others . So please dont have ago on mental health as that one thing you dont understand.