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    If I was facing erectile problems, I would try a PCT, before resigning myself to a life on HRT.

    You might also want to try some Low dose Naltrexone while on your HRT to get your HPTA working along with some HCG so that your nuts are full size for about a month.

    Then I would do a full PCT, Swifto has discussed this PCT scenario on here before about how to try and get your system back after two years on cycle, I think the OP should read that before giving up.

    Nothing to loose but plenty to gain.

    Also you may find that Low dose Naltrexone would support your erectile function like HRT does, so might be another option for you to consider.

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    Hahahaha, WOW hijacked thread for sure!! LOL Hey Tres hows the weener doing?

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    When you did your cycle there was no reason to stop the test cyp TRT shots that you were taking. Whatever you want to use as a cycle, you just add it on top. There is a info thread on " blast and cruise" that is aimed towards TRT people.
    As for doing a PCT, there is no need to do so. Same with naltrexone, since you are already on TRT you dont need to restimulate the long feedback regulation. HCG is beneficial on cycle to maintain testicular size and ITT which can help maintain spermatogensis, if you are thinking of kids in the future.
    also, some other issues that TRT people have is an imbalance on 'brain' hormones, so adding in 2 supplements will also help the issue. DHEA and Pregnegolone are both precursors to testosterone, but their concentrations are mainly in the brain.
    Those are some ideas for the future if you have any more issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    When you did your cycle there was no reason to stop the test cyp TRT shots that you were taking. Whatever you want to use as a cycle, you just add it on top. There is a info thread on " blast and cruise" that is aimed towards TRT people.
    As for doing a PCT, there is no need to do so. Same with naltrexone, since you are already on TRT you dont need to restimulate the long feedback regulation. HCG is beneficial on cycle to maintain testicular size and ITT which can help maintain spermatogensis, if you are thinking of kids in the future.
    also, some other issues that TRT people have is an imbalance on 'brain' hormones, so adding in 2 supplements will also help the issue. DHEA and Pregnegolone are both precursors to testosterone, but their concentrations are mainly in the brain.
    Those are some ideas for the future if you have any more issues
    Lemonada8, nice post.

    Clearly my last post was aimed at re-starting the OP natural testosterone production, if there is no interest in that, then please ignore

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Did you have sex drive and erections while on TRT before you blasted AAS?
    If you answer yes then you know the problem . ( IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT )

    In my opinion TRT is about getting your levels about right so you have a normal life.

    If your going to blast while on TRT then you may as well just cycle AAS and PCT after and dont bother with doing TRT.
    man, that is just rubbish. no offence, but you've a poor understanding of this subject
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    OP, you sound like you havnt a clue what you are doing, best to educate yourself in these matters before going any further

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    Tres what did u do to fix ur problem and how long did it take u ? are things back to normal now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    man, that is just rubbish. no offence, but you've a poor understanding of this subject
    Whys that then ? common sense tells you that if you did not have a problem before blasting then bloody hell i have a problem with ED since blasting . That should ring a bell in anyone's head. SORRY i thought extra hormones than the body needs messes the balance up.. Bugger me i must be so wrong .. Thats like saying while on a cycle you dont need PCT or a AI. As the extra will not alter anything .

    People go on TRT cuz they have ED,LOW SEX DRIVE , E.C.T and there given hormones to correct a imbalance . So blasting alters that balance that the TRT got you too ..IS THAT WRONG ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    OP, you sound like you havnt a clue what you are doing, best to educate yourself in these matters before going any further
    Please dec11 tell us all in your wealth of knowledge of the human hormone system as you seem to say you know it all .. Im i oar of you oh mighty one .

    So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ????
    So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ???
    So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ??
    So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ?
    Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ?
    Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2?
    Are you on TRT?

    So too me he had a problem NOT with TRT but the blasting which took his E2 levels too high.

    Why do doctors keep patients on as low as possible TRT treatment ? Maybe its because too much extra hormones can cause too much side effects . But i know nothing about TRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Whys that then ? common sense tells you that if you did not have a problem before blasting then bloody hell i have a problem with ED since blasting . That should ring a bell in anyone's head. SORRY i thought extra hormones than the body needs messes the balance up.. Bugger me i must be so wrong .. Thats like saying while on a cycle you dont need PCT or a AI. As the extra will not alter anything .

    People go on TRT cuz they have ED,LOW SEX DRIVE , E.C.T and there given hormones to correct a imbalance . So blasting alters that balance that the TRT got you too ..IS THAT WRONG ?
    his issue wasnt because he blasted and threw off his balance. Its because he stopped and didnt go back on trt. PCT for him wasnt going to do anything since he already had low T issue before the blast. If he would have blasted and went right back to trt then there would have been no ED issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    his issue wasnt because he blasted and threw off his balance. Its because he stopped and didnt go back on trt. PCT for him wasnt going to do anything since he already had low T issue before the blast. If he would have blasted and went right back to trt then there would have been no ED issue.
    Blasting when on TRT alters the balance of the hormone system . If he did not blast then he would not of had the problem. TRT is ment to be for medical purposes and you go on it for that reason .. If he did not blast then there would not be any problem and like you say he would not of fell into the trap of thinking he should do a PCT. Im not flaming anyone for blasting as thats upto them but i would not risk the benefits of TRT over gaining a pound or two, neither would my mrs thank me for it..lol

    Blasting dose alter the balance thats common sense (people try and drop there levels for blood tests so that means blasting throws the balance of line) . How many people do you know thats took too much AAS and lost there sex drive E.C.T ? Whats deca dick all about then for example ? E2 rises with the more AAS you take other wise you would not need a AI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Blasting when on TRT alters the balance of the hormone system . If he did not blast then he would not of had the problem. TRT is ment to be for medical purposes and you go on it for that reason .. If he did not blast then there would not be any problem and like you say he would not of fell into the trap of thinking he should do a PCT. Im not flaming anyone for blasting as thats upto them but i would not risk the benefits of TRT over gaining a pound or two, neither would my mrs thank me for it..lol

    Blasting dose alter the balance thats common sense (people try and drop there levels for blood tests so that means blasting throws the balance of line) . How many people do you know thats took too much AAS and lost there sex drive E.C.T ? Whats deca dick all about then for example ? E2 rises with the more AAS you take other wise you would not need a AI.
    i cant debate this anymore. You lack some understanding since you never done it before.
    His problem isnt because of a high E2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i cant debate this anymore. You lack some understanding since you never done it before.
    His problem isnt because of a high E2.
    Take it your not on TRT ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Please dec11 tell us all in your wealth of knowledge of the human hormone system as you seem to say you know it all .. Im i oar of you oh mighty one .

    So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ????
    So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ???
    So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ??
    So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ?
    Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ?
    Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2?
    Are you on TRT?

    So too me he had a problem NOT with TRT but the blasting which took his E2 levels too high.

    Why do doctors keep patients on as low as possible TRT treatment ? Maybe its because too much extra hormones can cause too much side effects . But i know nothing about TRT.
    you're obviously an idiot and not worth debating with, as im on trt and have blasted on it with no probs, i think im in a better position to advise someone. sheer ignorance, arguing about something you've no clue about

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Take it your not on TRT ?
    actually yes i am

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you're obviously an idiot and not worth debating with, as im on trt and have blasted on it with no probs, i think im in a better position to advise someone. sheer ignorance, arguing about something you've no clue about
    But can only answer 1 question . you advice people to play with there health when TRT is for medical reasons. That shows your ignorance when you cant answer the other questions honestly . And you say i have no clue ...lol..And calling someone a idiot is the lowest form of wit at least i have the maturity not to call someone play ground names. Get a grip . Dont give advice if you cant answer the questions on medical grounds as TRT is medical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    But can only answer 1 question . you advice people to play with there health when TRT is for medical reasons. That shows your ignorance when you cant answer the other questions honestly . And you say i have no clue ...lol..And calling someone a idiot is the lowest form of wit at least i have the maturity not to call someone play ground names. Get a grip . Dont give advice if you cant answer the questions on medical grounds as TRT is medical.
    wtf are you slabbering about? im one of the most cautious on here when it comes to advising. your here 5mins and making assumptions on ppl who know how this site works. we'll see how long you last

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    But can only answer 1 question . you advice people to play with there health when TRT is for medical reasons. That shows your ignorance when you cant answer the other questions honestly . And you say i have no clue ...lol..And calling someone a idiot is the lowest form of wit at least i have the maturity not to call someone play ground names. Get a grip . Dont give advice if you cant answer the questions on medical grounds as TRT is medical.
    blasting is no more of a risk then cycling. Its actually less. Because you don't have to worry about restoring your natural test production since you are on TRT. What are you not understanding?

    So if you think people on trt shouldn't blast then normal people should never cycle and we should just shut this site down

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    blasting is no more of a risk then cycling. Its actually less. Because you don't have to worry about restoring your natural test production since you are on TRT. What are you not understanding?

    So if you think people on trt shouldn't blast then normal people should never cycle and we should just shut this site down
    Iv never said should not blast while on TRT , I was saying you are given medically prescribed TRT to help health issues so why would you knock the balance off and have problems again for the sake of a blast . If the doctors gave you a chance to get back to a normal happy life , then why throw it back in there face. There are alot on this forum that have had problems when blasting with TRT. Just take a look around . There are also alot on here that have been on TRT for 10 plus years that have not and would not blast. They are the responsible people that see TRT as a god send and a new lease of life. The more people that abuse TRT the more doctors will not prescribe it . I struggled to be prescribe it and had to self med to prove a point to docs E.C.T . If people want to cycle AAS then that too is upto them but at-least they are not using a doctor to warrant it . A doc will only give you a set dose and if he found you abusing the fact he would kick you off TRT. So there is another danger to TRT users the more people that cheat the system the more they will refuse to give it to . WELL SEEMS LIKE I HAVE UPSET SOME ON HERE THAT CAN ONLY SEE IT THERE WAY THEN GET ABUSIVE AND SPIT THERE DUMMY OUT .. SO AS MR DEC11!! LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL BAN ME .. SO THERE GOES FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND DEBATE .

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Iv never said should not blast while on TRT , I was saying you are given medically prescribed TRT to help health issues so why would you knock the balance off and have problems again for the sake of a blast . If the doctors gave you a chance to get back to a normal happy life , then why throw it back in there face. There are alot on this forum that have had problems when blasting with TRT. Just take a look around . There are also alot on here that have been on TRT for 10 plus years that have not and would not blast. They are the responsible people that see TRT as a god send and a new lease of life. The more people that abuse TRT the more doctors will not prescribe it . I struggled to be prescribe it and had to self med to prove a point to docs E.C.T . If people want to cycle AAS then that too is upto them but at-least they are not using a doctor to warrant it . A doc will only give you a set dose and if he found you abusing the fact he would kick you off TRT. So there is another danger to TRT users the more people that cheat the system the more they will refuse to give it to . WELL SEEMS LIKE I HAVE UPSET SOME ON HERE THAT CAN ONLY SEE IT THERE WAY THEN GET ABUSIVE AND SPIT THERE DUMMY OUT .. SO AS MR DEC11!! LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL BAN ME .. SO THERE GOES FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND DEBATE .
    you start calling out ppl on a subject they practise and continue to argue a point in which you have no clue about, you're an idiot plain and simple, no other way to describe you. debate? how can you debate effectively if you dont know anything about the subject. you then go on to call me wreckless?! get a life

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you start calling out ppl on a subject they practise and continue to argue a point in which you have no clue about, you're an idiot plain and simple, no other way to describe you. debate? how can you debate effectively if you dont know anything about the subject. you then go on to call me wreckless?! get a life
    But you cant answer simple questions . Which is ment to be what your good at ..
    So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ????
    So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ???
    So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ??
    So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ?
    Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ?
    Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2?

    Just try and answer without getting abusive .. im sure your followers would like to see you answers.

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    And maybe dec11 you should stop blasting cuz i think you have anger issues .. Another side affect..

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    But you cant answer simple questions . Which is ment to be what your good at ..
    So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ???? of course they do
    So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ??? yes
    So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ?? yes
    So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ?not necessarily
    Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ? trt isnt cycling most people just call it blasting
    Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2? both can but dont always

    Just try and answer without getting abusive .. im sure your followers would like to see you answers.
    your acting like blasting it is going to cause a permanent imbalance and ruin trt. It Does Not. Once you are done with you blast and return back to your trt you will be back to the same as before. But have the benefits of what you accomplished on your blast. You seem like your not able to get past that point. Blasting is NOT going to ruin your TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    But you cant answer simple questions . Which is ment to be what your good at ..
    So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ???? ah duh, of course
    So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ??? it replaces missing test levels, there are more hormones present than test which may require other meds
    So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ?? no, why would it be, you'd still be on trt?!
    So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ? person dependant
    Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ? no, trt is not a cycle. blasting/cycle, no diff to me, a cycle is a period of time simply put
    Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2? person dependant

    Just try and answer without getting abusive .. im sure your followers would like to see you answers.
    OMG, im actually starting to feel sorry for you. ask me something difficult lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    your acting like blasting it is going to cause a permanent imbalance and ruin trt. It Does Not. Once you are done with you blast and return back to your trt you will be back to the same as before. But have the benefits of what you accomplished on your blast. You seem like your not able to get past that point. Blasting is NOT going to ruin your TRT.
    x2. i dont get what dog cant understand?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    x2. i dont get what dog cant understand?!
    i really dont get it either. Its not complicated

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    Not saying it will permanently cause a imbalance .. not said that once . It will knock the balance around while blasting which can cause the problems as with any cycle. Im getting at why struggle to get TRT and get everything hunky dory just to put the balance out again. Then you have the added problem of getting your blood back to normal for the blood tests. You think as you know! how long it took you to get TRT from your doc its not a easy road . Plus the benefits of TRT with body building is that the hormone level is putting you at a younger age.. Hence muscle growth . and the knowledge that you have all the backing from your doctor . All pluses no minuses . But again if your doctor knew you were blasting then it would ruin your TRT .. as they would not prescribe, so chances where you would have to hunt for another doc or self medicate . Im 43 and not looking to be a big beast so TRT the right way suits me just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    OMG, im actually starting to feel sorry for you. ask me something difficult lol
    New you could not answer . PMSL

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Not saying it will permanently cause a imbalance .. not said that once . It will knock the balance around while blasting which can cause the problems as with any cycle. and earlier you said blasting was more a risk then just cycling and running a pctIm getting at why struggle to get TRT and get everything hunky dory just to put the balance out again. this is a body building website. So most people are looking for more then just feeling youngerThen you have the added problem of getting your blood back to normal for the blood tests.there is no problem, just return back to your trt protocol. And of course you dont start it right before you need bloodwork done You think as you know! how long it took you to get TRT from your doc its not a easy road . Plus the benefits of TRT with body building is that the hormone level is putting you at a younger age.. Hence muscle growth . and the knowledge that you have all the backing from your doctor . All pluses no minuses . But again if your doctor knew you were blasting then it would ruin your TRT .. as they would not prescribe, so chances where you would have to hunt for another doc or self medicate . Im 43 and not looking to be a big beast so TRT the right way suits me just fine.
    some of your logic makes sense to the average person. You are on a body building steroid website. Most guys aren't looking just to feel and look normal. If those are your goals then blasting isnt for you. But again you have never done it so, everything and anything you comment is just speculation on your part. Your trying to debate with guys who do it and can speak from real experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    New you could not answer . PMSL
    you really are a thicko, and if you want to talk about abusive and baiting posts, take a look back to where you kicked it off with sarcasm. its dopes like you that give aas a bad name. good day

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    Originally Posted by devildog1967
    But you cant answer simple questions . Which is ment to be what your good at ..
    So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ???? ah duh, of course(SO ADDING MORE AAS WILL ALTER THE TRT THERAPY)
    So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ??? it replaces missing test levels, there are more hormones present than test which may require other meds(SORRY THATS CALLED HRT)
    So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ?? no, why would it be, you'd still be on trt?! (ALTERS THE THERAPY YOUR SET ON ADDING MORE AAS EQUALS ALTERING)
    So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ? person dependant (WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BLOOD TEST TO SEE IF E2 IS HIGH)AGAIN DOC WOULD NOT BE TOO HAPPY.
    Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ? no, trt is not a cycle. blasting/cycle, no diff to me, a cycle is a period of time simply put(MEDICATED TRT STOPS BEING THAT WHEN YOU ADD OTHER AAS.. NO DIFF FROM A NORMAL CYCLE..JUST NO PCT REQUIRED )
    Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2? person dependant (AGAIN BLOOD TESTS UNLESS YOU GET A LIMP DICK AND BITCH TITS) WHICH TO MY POINT OF VIEW BLASTING HAS ALTERED HORMONES ENOUGH TO CAUSE PROBLEMS WHERE THEY WERE NOT THERE WHEN ON TRT ALONE.

    Just try and answer without getting abusive .. im sure your followers would like to see you answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Originally Posted by devildog1967
    But you cant answer simple questions . Which is ment to be what your good at ..
    So Steroids dont alter the balance of the human hormones ???? ah duh, of course(SO ADDING MORE AAS WILL ALTER THE TRT THERAPY)
    So TRT is not ment to get your hormones in balance ??? it replaces missing test levels, there are more hormones present than test which may require other meds(SORRY THATS CALLED HRT)
    So TRT therapy will not be altered if blasting ?? no, why would it be, you'd still be on trt?! (ALTERS THE THERAPY YOUR SET ON ADDING MORE AAS EQUALS ALTERING)
    So a AI would not be needed at any time while blasting as the extra hormones will not effect E2 levels ? person dependant (WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BLOOD TEST TO SEE IF E2 IS HIGH)AGAIN DOC WOULD NOT BE TOO HAPPY.
    Is TRT called a cycle ? Would Blasting while on TRT be called a cycle ? no, trt is not a cycle. blasting/cycle, no diff to me, a cycle is a period of time simply put(MEDICATED TRT STOPS BEING THAT WHEN YOU ADD OTHER AAS.. NO DIFF FROM A NORMAL CYCLE..JUST NO PCT REQUIRED )
    Do high E2 levels cause ED ? Do extra steroids cause High E2? person dependant (AGAIN BLOOD TESTS UNLESS YOU GET A LIMP DICK AND BITCH TITS) WHICH TO MY POINT OF VIEW BLASTING HAS ALTERED HORMONES ENOUGH TO CAUSE PROBLEMS WHERE THEY WERE NOT THERE WHEN ON TRT ALONE.

    Just try and answer without getting abusive .. im sure your followers would like to see you answers.
    man your a total ignorant clueless retard. how the fvck would someone still not be a trt patient just by adding additional compounds?! 'sorry thats called HRT', its all HRT you clown. just braindead, totally thick

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you really are a thicko, and if you want to talk about abusive and baiting posts, take a look back to where you kicked it off with sarcasm. Its dopes like you that give aas a bad name. Good day
    no its someone like you that gives trt a bad name . Aas has always had a bad name trt is to help people . Plus you give aas a bad name by your uncontrollable rudeness . Hey no one else has done name calling other than you.. Yes i have read some of you comments on other threads and how you like to be little people .. About time you got the boot from here .. You think your god

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    no its someone like you that gives trt a bad name . Aas has always had a bad name trt is to help people . Plus you give aas a bad name by your uncontrollable rudeness . Hey no one else has done name calling other than you.. Yes i have read some of you comments on other threads and how you like to be little people .. About time you got the boot from here .. You think your god
    yeah and which banned re-join are you?

    a bit of an agenda going on here, no-one could seriously be as stupid as this

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    If your going to blast while on TRT then you may as well just cycle AAS and PCT after and dont bother with doing TRT.
    if you had low test levels before how can you cycle and pct. you will still have low test when you come back off. trt is testosterone replacement therapy. Running higher dose is still replacing what you are missing.

    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    why blast when your on TRT . Thats when you run into trouble , If your hormones were messed up before TRT and the TRT cured it then why would you want to mess it up with adding more too the mix. People take TRT because the have health issues . Im saying if you are going to mess around with your treatment and cycle extra then what is the point in going for TRT ? I do TRT at only 100mg from 200mg and would not dream of messing my excellent results . Also keeping it low will help estrogen that means no AI. I do TRT for heath reasons NOT vanity .

    Plus cycling while on TRT is more dangerous ..
    I thought you didnt say that, The point of going on trt is because your test levels are low. Blasting cycling what ever you want to call it is still going to give you elevated test levels and fix the problems you already had

    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Iv done 3 cycles of sus 250 1 mil a week for 8 weeks about 9y ago. I have trained natural a part from that( been training for over 20y). only been doing TRT for 10 weeks to treat low sex drive and depression . And yes that me in the pic .
    again you have no actual experience

    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    Are cycling steroids safe or not ? If the answer is yes to that question then why dont people take large cycles all year long ? If the answer is no there not safe then you have your answer why cycling while on TRT is dangerous.
    i cant do this anymore. You really do lack the understand of cycling or even trt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    man your a total ignorant clueless retard. How the fvck would someone still not be a trt patient just by adding additional compounds?! 'sorry thats called hrt', its all hrt you clown. Just braindead, totally thick
    because you doctor would not prescribe it any more .. So that would mean self medicating ..unless you try to de fraud the doctors .. But na thats criminal . Your a very abusive young man that needs a chill pill

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    well you dont do it right before bloodwork. But again you been on for 10 weeks. You don know about trt
    now your talking about defrauding the dr and whats criminal on a steroid website where its illegal in most places.

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    You dont need to be a rocket scientist .. Its not all about jabbing needles in every place you can..hey try natural training. It works wonders . Im proud not having to eat and stab every drug . I had all the opportunity in the world to take the easy road. Trt is low dose for health reasons and not a aid to building mass muscle . Thats why its prescribed and monitored

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    forget it. then stick to the trt section on here. that's apparently where you are more suited.
    I can tell by your last post this isnt about the dangers of it or screwing trt up.

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