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    So my bad steroids are the reason then, looks like the media is true after all and steroids are evil. No, steroids arent the reason, people who use steroids then go on tequila fueled benders are the reason why the media blows it out of proportion.

    and higher test levels means you WILL be more agressive and flip? this is all what your saying, so therefore nightclubs I frequent should basically be a large boxing ring since majority of fellas in there are using aas. WILL is a strong word, it was a generalized WARNING, to lay off the hard alcohol and stick with beer. call it damage prevention. Most of those young fellas have higher test levels than the old fellas. Hence most fights are young guys.

    and by the way, me get a hold of myself? your the one who reckons ''alcohol+steroids=RAGE'' Hard alcohol and elevated test is more likely to make someone more emotional than a non AAS dude drinking.

    or do you think that steroids give you confidence and with this confidence and even more confidence from the alcohol you may decide to try act the hard man when if you were sober you wouldnt have the guts to say boo? IME this is alot of the reasons behind it and since you cant seem to obtain steroids I doubt your around/associate with people who actually use steroids to actually know much on the subject and you just going by what you hear in the news[/QUOTE] LOL, man ive been around the block.

    That was just my 2 cents. I dont think people on cycle should drink at all, and if they must hard liqour should be a definite no. It wasnt an attack on you. I think you are overreacting.

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    yea bro honestly i think it goes either way...on one hand one night wont kill you and if your not even amatuer BB than no harm.... but on the other hand, where does BB/goals/training/recovery stand to you...all subjective to you...truth is you could make it without drinking one night...good luck

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    do you realise how many people are on steroids and go out drinking several times a week? its far more then the people who use and dont drink

    do they go out fighting every weekend or ''rage'' as you put it? no

    this is real world experience, dont know where you get yours from, a book or magazine prehaps?

    simple as that, im done

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    I have drank a couple times this cycle. I didn't have any problems I had a great time but then felt guilty and regretted the next day at the gym during my cardio session so I decided to cut the drinking out and just have at the gym while trying to get my yoke on

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    no Dan. Ive run 3 cycles in my 10+ years of training, along with competitive powerlifting. I know thats nothing in the AAS world but it was 9 months of my life on cycle and enough to give me an idea of how my body reacted to alcohol and test. Again it was a warning, a suggestion, to drink in moderation. And Ill stick with it. Although maybe I should rephrase it to-alcohol and steroids could trigger the urge to assert yourself in an aggressive and potentially offensive fashion, instead of alcohol+steroids=rage or perhaps overreacting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by castiron View Post
    no Dan. Ive run 3 cycles in my 10+ years of training, along with competitive powerlifting. I know thats nothing in the AAS world but it was 9 months of my life on cycle and enough to give me an idea of how my body reacted to alcohol and test. Again it was a warning, a suggestion, to drink in moderation. And Ill stick with it. Although maybe I should rephrase it to-alcohol and steroids could trigger the urge to assert yourself in an aggressive and potentially offensive fashion, instead of alcohol+steroids=rage or perhaps overreacting...
    now your getting somewhere and basically agreeing with what im saying, i like how you have stepped back from your original statement with every subsequent post too

    its a mentality people get into ''im on steroids so im hard'' not the steroids causing people to lose control of themselves and go on a rampage as your orginal post suggested

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    I think it was actually a misinterpretation on your part originally. We mean the same thing, we just say it differently. This is great couples counseling.

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    Why would someone want to jeopardize their health and liver function by drinking alcohol on cycle? Plan ahead and make sure you have nothing on (events etc) that may tempt you into drinking alcohol. There is simply no point. Absolutely baffles me. I suppose most of you are older than me and have other reasons to drink, so they are fair points.

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    You do realise how little effect it will have on health and people drink regularly with no ill effects right?

    Unless you do it professionally, bodybuilder, fight, powerlifter,etc then there is no reason to put your whole life on hold

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    You do realise how little effect it will have on health and people drink regularly with no ill effects right?

    Unless you do it professionally, bodybuilder, fight, powerlifter,etc then there is no reason to put your whole life on hold
    Yeah but there is still no point drinking regularly. Again, it depends on the person. Some people can drink and commit suicide cause of mental issues they may not have even noticed about. Some people may **** up their liver. It just depends on the person. I've never been a heavy drinker - I've always drunk and got smashed when I was younger, but now that I am twenty I just don't see the need. You can go out and have a good time but getting sloshed makes you look like a fool. One of the few reasons I look up to Zyzz is that I am pretty sure he never touched alcohol - full stop. Whether it was on cycle or off, he just decided there was no point to it. Although I am certain he didn't have time off from cycles - there is no way he got to his size and lean body mass and that shredded without regular use of AAS. For that he is an idiot. I know a lot of people do that but there are also a lot of people who drink alcohol on cycle - bad move in my opinion. It's like with other substances (the kush is what I am referring to) - alcohol is just a drug pretty much and much worse than marijuana.

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    You know zyzz was addicted to cocaine? regualarly used ecstasy and the whole image he put forward was b.s. yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    You know zyzz was addicted to cocaine? regualarly used ecstasy and the whole image he put forward was b.s. yeah?
    I don't want you thinking I'm a little phaggot Zyzz fan boy. Please. I respect how his body looked but I don't respect the way in which he got there. He was clearly very insecure about something and resorted to steroids and whatever else to hide his true self away. I know "Zyzz" was not who he truly was - apparently he was a decent guy when not acting up and acting all hard all the time. It's still sad that he died, but can't say he didn't have it coming. The image he put forward was definitely a load of shit, I've seen him doing his speeches on youtube and he sometimes just looks away and tries not to laugh or covers his laugh - most young Zyzz fan boy phaggots don't realize that you can't live a life like his and be successful or achieve the things in life you want to achieve.

    Anyway enough of him sorry for bringing it up.

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    Ive heard way to much zyzz mentioned on this board the last few days. The guy and his whole persona was a joke. There are many reasons he is not walking this earth no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GorillaNuts View Post
    Ive heard way to much zyzz mentioned on this board the last few days. The guy and his whole persona was a joke. There are many reasons he is not walking this earth no more.
    thank you

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    especially when its interpreted wrong. ever play the telephone game?

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    Agreed....but we gotta cut this thread short. Discussion of rec drugs is taboo on this forum and I don't want to get my arse banned! Lol

    Apologies to the forum Gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Agreed....but we gotta cut this thread short. Discussion of rec drugs is taboo on this forum and I don't want to get my arse banned! Lol

    Apologies to the forum Gods.
    Seconded. My apologies to those with insane forum powers.

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    OP go out and enjoy youself.. A good night of partying will be good for you.

    Non-drinkers, I respect your restraint but please don't go around trying to act drunk or tricking people in to thinking you are drinking. If you choose not to drink, man the fvck up and own your decision, don't put up a lame front to avoid ridicule.

    I drink on occasion and see nothing wrong with it. I only do it on/before off days and it hasn't affected a thing. Steroids are used to enhance your life, not take away things you enjoy.

    Castiron:
    steroids + alcohol = fun
    steroids + a burnt steak = RAGE

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasc View Post
    Castiron:
    steroids + alcohol = fun
    steroids + a burnt steak = RAGE
    LOL speaking of which, i have discovered a kobe/wagyu butcher shop and that shit is delicious. chargrilled bone in no 7 wagyu ribeye...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmnomnomnomnomnomnom and about 2000 calories...dont get me started on steak.

    heres a pic of a non bone in thats just absurd. nice and low fat too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castiron View Post
    LOL speaking of which, i have discovered a kobe/wagyu butcher shop and that shit is delicious. chargrilled bone in no 7 wagyu ribeye...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmnomnomnomnomnomnom and about 2000 calories...dont get me started on steak.

    heres a pic of a non bone in thats just absurd. nice and low fat too.

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    some people really love kobe but ive been stuck in japan on layovers before when i would travel to the philippines to see my in-laws and to me,, i would prefer just a regular applebees steak and a high priced kobe,,, people rant and rave about it,, but to me,, its not for me.

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    https://www.jimmypsbutchershop.com/s...evel=3&pid=245
    https://www.jimmypsbutchershop.com/s...evel=1&pid=133

    I promise you if you buy that steak and put that rub on it, your mind will be blown and you will slip into an endorphin fueled food coma for 3 hours. Thats the link to my favorite butcher shop in naples, fl. They will ship to your door. trust me. its serious. Make sure that you put the steak on the kitchen counter for 4 (FOUR) hours!!!before cooking to allow the inner temperature to raise to room temp. It is safe. Then put on the rub with a little olive oil. get the grill super (scorching flaming inferno) hot and cook it till Medium Rare. Then let it "rest" or sit on the counter uncovered for a minimum of 5 minutes, this is essential to prevent all of the juice from escaping when you cut it. Do not cut it before then. Eat it. Mind blown. BLAMMO. Trust me. Believe it or not the fat in wagyu is different than the fat in regualr meat and is said to be "healthy fat" like omega 3/6. God you got me started on steak...sorry. I used to cook alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graco View Post
    Hi everyone, iv just started a test e cycle and its a friends birthday night out coming up.. I just wondered what everyone's opinions are on have one pretty crazy night whilst on cycle.. Obviously it can't be good but on a one off would it be ok? Thanks
    I think getting smashed drunk will hinder gains via hangover etc...a few wont hurt you much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havehotasianwife

    sorry but thats kinda a shitty way of thinking,,, "i would rather get hammered or nothing at all" whats wrong with just going and being a good friend while still saying no to drinking on cycle (the responsible thing to do) or at least keeping it to a minimum while on cycle??? sorry for sounding like a a$$hole ... but it is what it is
    I didn't generally mean i would go out and get hammered, but i would rather give it a miss than go out and drink alcohol if there was any added risk of doing so whilst on steroids That's why i just wanted a few opinions. Iv decided to do so anyhow but i will be keeping my drink minimal as id rather not find out the hard way what excessive drinking and steroids could do..

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