tamoxifen/nolvadex = jaw growth

[Sworder]

Cabergoline in the Treatment of Acromegaly: A Study in 64 Patients
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/83/2/374.long

[mojo999]

Ease up on the HGH bro... nolva wont do that.

[AD]

Good point. After all, it is the chronic elevation of IGF-1 which cause acromegaly and intestinal growth. So it probably wouldn't be a good idea to split up you HGH dose.

here's something supporting this,

Basal, But Not Pulsatile, Growth Hormone Secretion Determines the Ambient Circulating Levels of Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/95/5/2486.full

[Sworder]

The Pattern of Growth Hormone Delivery to Peripheral Tissues Determines Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1 and Lipolytic Responses in Obese Subjects
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content...e2=tf_ipsecsha

" Only pulsatile GH augmented the rate of lipolysis "

[AD]

oopps, i think i lost the original point in the debate.

anyway.... nope, its not the nolva

[Sworder]

oopps, i think i lost the original point in the debate.

anyway.... nope, its not the nolva

Haha, yeah. Interesting articles though! Fruitful exchange. Am surprised caber is used to decrease IGF-1, I didn't know that. Might not be using caber anymore, I mean it's broscience that progestins increase prolactin anyway ;D Buuuuut, we could save that for another thread

[sharmabrah]

is there actually any way one can improve the definition (not necessarily the shape, but definition) of the jaw other than through surgery? ive seen some people have unaesthetic jaws when they were younger then all of a sudden get awesome looking jaws and jaw lines. i find that when i grit my teeth together my jaw looks much better and legit makes my face have more definition, but is there a way of making it more permanent? or is it just genetics?

[AD]

is there actually any way one can improve the definition (not necessarily the shape, but definition) of the jaw other than through surgery? ive seen some people have unaesthetic jaws when they were younger then all of a sudden get awesome looking jaws and jaw lines. i find that when i grit my teeth together my jaw looks much better and legit makes my face have more definition, but is there a way of making it more permanent? or is it just genetics?

injecting fillers.
botox, to a lesser extent.

[AD]

Haha, yeah. Interesting articles though! Fruitful exchange. Am surprised caber is used to decrease IGF-1, I didn't know that. Might not be using caber anymore, I mean it's broscience that progestins increase prolactin anyway ;D Buuuuut, we could save that for another thread

cheers bro

[sharmabrah]

injecting fillers.
botox, to a lesser extent.

are they permanent? expensive? i dunno if they'd be worth it