Above 1000 trt levels year round anyone?

[sfgiantsfan55]

ive been on TRT for about 3 months started i was like 148 -ish? currently at about 330. INcreasing... but terribly slow (im a novice, dont claim to know a ton about it)...also on a 1x week ( had been q10 days) regiment of 200 of test cyp. am i increasing at a reasonable pace or should my md be more agressive with dosing? again, i dont claim to know smack about this, (learning alot from this site though)..whats a very high dose for trt ? thanks (im not currently on hcg or anything else atm)

[kelkel]

200mg per week is pretty much high end TRT. You should be much higher that 330 after 12 weeks on a proper protocol. What is your current BF level out of curiosity and if you're self injecting are you sure you are measuring correctly. Also when was your BW pulled relative to your last injection.

[sfgiantsfan55]

had bf checked a few weeks ago was 12% ..im not self injecting... low t center doesnt do that or so they say. My MD doenst seem concerned, or at least hasnt told me as such. bw was done at 10 days after last injection. have to dig up my results. fwiw my e2 is pretty low as well..not sure if thats relevant here (22 i think?)

[LowT Mike]

My doc is extremely happy keeping me above 1000. Last BW was 1048. I'm on 200mg per week. Have more BW to be done in October. I'm on top of the world!!!

800-900 is generally the sweet spot for most men with a free T above 25. The doctors with LT.com and myself understand that a mans T level should be pushed until they have symptomatic improvement. Thats the big picture. Not the labs being at an exact number...Everybody's optimal spot is different and too many docs treat the labs and not the patient. Labs are not a perfect gauge of what is going on inside the body...When you look at labs you are really just comparing numbers against averages of US men, thats how they come up with those reference ranges. Ref ranges are a "age decade dependent" census of US men. They are averages of all us men (including numbers from millions of andropausal men) for your age group.

If a man has a T level of 600 and is still showing symptoms of andropause I will keep pushing them up to 900, 1000, 1100, 1200. Until they are symptom free. Granted they are not showing other symptoms of super physiological doses, acne, polycythemia, aggression, falling HDL, ect. Its all about balance and everyone is different. Now if I have a man that came to me at 300 and I get him up to 600 and he feels great and is 100% symptom free then I will leave him there.

The key is to talk to the patient, treat the symptoms not the labs, main goal is symptomatic improvement.

[kelkel]

If you have to go there for your shots it's time to move on. Consider LowTestosterone.com - $199 All-Included Testosterone Treatment. It's a ridiculous waste of time to have to do that. You could even go with SQ injections to make it even easier / safer. BW ten days after injection I can understand the low level. It needs to be a minimum of once per week and even better if you split the dose in half and inject every 3-4 days for more stable levels. Also make sure the E2 panel is a sensitive assay.

[kelkel]

There ya go! LTM chimed in. Listen up!