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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Utter rubbish,

    Troll
    Hi friend. I don't know why you guys think I care so much that I would troll. Like I said I am logging my experience. Would you like me to read some thursday morning headlines while i make another video getting on the scale timestamped on my iphone exactly one week and one day later? Shit is ridiculous.

    Edit: With all these negative posts ill get the wednesday video that the 165 picture originates from. I will have to block out my face somehow. I didn't think people would care enough to really be questioning the validity of my posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    You started on october 20th, your using enth esters and have gained 20lbs already? Thats brilliant for 5 days

    Thanks man. I think it is mostly fat and water from eating the amount of food I am eating. When I used to train for distance sure I would eat more but maybe half what I am now. And after my knee replacements, I was maybe eating one meal a day on average with my morning bike ride (average an hour every morning). VERY LITTLE food. Naturally I do not have an appetite and would be completely satisfied eating less than 1k calories a day. I would compare it to a fighter that is depleted gaining weight after a weigh in if that makes any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Utter rubbish,

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    Nice avatar marcus. Now why do you think he should listen to you? Lmao! Your arm is as big as his waist! Lmao! Off to squat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Nice avatar marcus. Now why do you think he should listen to you? Lmao! Your arm is as big as his waist! Lmao! Off to squat...
    Haha I do listen to those kind of comments! Negative comments like that actually help push me more. Makes me want to eat even more for thursday's update. Heading in to train legs right now boys. PS just had 2.5 cups of rice with a shit ton of ground pork over a couple hours while studying. Yes 2.5 cups dry not cooked lol.

    Oh PS: To prevent more useless troll comments I can post the video from last wednesday with the date timestamped on my iphone. If anyone knows how to blank out a face on video let me know!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    Haha I do listen to those kind of comments! Negative comments like that actually help push me more. Makes me want to eat even more for thursday's update. Heading in to train legs right now boys. PS just had 2.5 cups of rice with a shit ton of ground pork over a couple hours while studying. Yes 2.5 cups dry not cooked lol.

    Oh PS: To prevent more useless troll comments I can post the video from last wednesday with the date timestamped on my iphone. If anyone knows how to blank out a face on video let me know!!
    You are full of shit or your shit is fake. That much tren kill a newbie your size. It's a matter of bodyweight. Liver would shut down. They would haul you in as green as... you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    10/24/2016 Monday: Injected 2.5cc and 3cc in both glutes. Far less pain than in delts. Virtually pain free. Up about 20 pounds I believe. Excited for my 1 week physique update. Definitely packing on weight, abs have almost disappeared. Whipping cream with NO cardio is helping immensely. Force-feeding food along with completely eliminating cardio (1 hour morning cycle) is working wonders. Superdrol seems to be working well muscles are really tight in the gym. Did notice some chest spasms during my chest workout today. Very lethargic, napping at least 2 hours everyday.


    EDIT: Reply to guy above. You should have really read my post. I outlined how I enjoy larger meals and eat them over 2-3 hours. Thereby, equaling the same as 2 or more meals. And I believe the diet above which consists of 6k+ calories while hitting my protein, fat and carb macros is more than sufficient. Even in all my years of endurance training, I never measured calories as they mean nothing to me.
    I removed my comment for being a bit harsh on second thought
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    How do you get that to be around 6000kcal?
    I just looked over quick and it was maybe half that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    How do you get that to be around 6000kcal?
    I just looked over quick and it was maybe half that.
    Haha. Definitely not half, although I don't count calories I know roughly what I'm eating. Umm to go over it quickly

    Oats 600
    Beef 700
    cream 1500
    rice 1000
    pasta 1500

    That's not counting my post workout protein which can be high in cals (beef) or low (chicken, tuna or fish), eggs, berries, sauces and numerous other things I decide to add in my diet everyday.

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    You started on october 20th, your using enth esters and have gained 20lbs already? Thats brilliant for 5 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    You started on october 20th, your using enth esters and have gained 20lbs already? Thats brilliant for 5 days



    Pics or it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MnmlTekno View Post


    Pics or it didn't happen.
    Mostly fat and water. Thanks for the useful posts guys. And yeah I will on thursday.

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    Was going to mention that my libido has been up for the past day or so random boners here and there (those stopped a couple years back i was 18-19 lol. From what I read online my sex drive should not be up so early on with the type of test that I am doing. I was turned to a thread on reddit discussing pharmacokinetics and frontloading. I think that since I am doing extremely high doses that I may be feeling things quicker. They also posted a way to graph your cycle and it shows the release of hormones daily. Not sure if this is accurate though... Just a thoughtClick image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    Was going to mention that my libido has been up for the past day or so random boners here and there (those stopped a couple years back i was 18-19 lol. From what I read online my sex drive should not be up so early on with the type of test that I am doing. I was turned to a thread on reddit discussing pharmacokinetics and frontloading. I think that since I am doing extremely high doses that I may be feeling things quicker. They also posted a way to graph your cycle and it shows the release of hormones daily. Not sure if this is accurate though... Just a thoughtClick image for larger version. 

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    Well now we know where you dreamed up this crazy cycle, reddit.

    One injection of test is going to raise your blood serum levels quickly, people put too much weight on esters "and the time they take to kick in". If you pin a gram of cyp your levels are going to be UP the next day by quite a bit. The process of removing the ester from the testosterone molecule is not a scheduled task, it starts happening upon injection. Ester will determine time to peak and duration.

    Your already ignoring red flags on this cycle, amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSXRvi6 View Post
    Well now we know where you dreamed up this crazy cycle, reddit.

    One injection of test is going to raise your blood serum levels quickly, people put too much weight on esters "and the time they take to kick in". If you pin a gram of cyp your levels are going to be UP the next day by quite a bit. The process of removing the ester from the testosterone molecule is not a scheduled task, it starts happening upon injection. Ester will determine time to peak and duration.

    Your already ignoring red flags on this cycle, amazing.
    Haha actually I came up with the cycle myself not reddit. Thanks for the clarifying what I was saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post

    Naturally I do not have an appetite and would be completely satisfied eating less than 1k calories a day.
    If that was true then you would be more of an endomorph with drinking all that cream than an hard gainer as you claim, so I call BS on that. I hope your not a troll though as I'm too curious to witness your undoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    If that was true then you would be more of an endomorph with drinking all that cream than an hard gainer as you claim, so I call BS on that. I hope your not a troll though as I'm too curious to witness your undoing.
    Really? To my understanding an ectomorph is a person that is very skinny and has a hard time eating (no appetite)? And an endomorph puts on weight easily and has to watch what he/she eats? I am definitely not number two lol. Eating this amount has been absolute hell.

    Edit: Anyway this is unimportant. I know what I am doing with my diet, I know my bodyfat and weight goals. Whether I am an ectormorph or not I don't know. I don't think it really matters.
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    Thats not healthy at all. But then again neither is your cycle. Nothing about this is.

    If you truly went from a 1k + cardio diet to 6+k diet with no cardio then 20lbs is definitely possible as most competitors will gain somewhere in that area without a proper reverse diet. This can be extremely taxing on your body due to the crazy amount of water retention and these "gains" are definitely temporary. It is just glycogen and water retention which you will eventually piss away. Make sure to check your BP daily so you don't die on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Thats not healthy at all. But then again neither is your cycle. Nothing about this is.

    If you truly went from a 1k + cardio diet to 6+k diet with no cardio then 20lbs is definitely possible as most competitors will gain somewhere in that area without a proper reverse diet. This can be extremely taxing on your body due to the crazy amount of water retention and these "gains" are definitely temporary. It is just glycogen and water retention which you will eventually piss away. Make sure to check your BP daily so you don't die on us.
    Thanks man yeah I know it's a drastic amount. From me looking at my body it would appear as if someone poured a gallon of water into me. haha anyway today's log. Not really exciting.

    10/25/2016 Tuesday: About to head to bed after I finish this brisket for my second meal after my workout. Not noticing the side effects from the superdrol as much. Definitely a lot of tightness in the glutes but the pain isn’t too bad. Thinking about injecting in my delts again on thursday but I don’t know if I want to go through that pain again (every time I moved them it was like a knife stabbing me)… Trained legs today, taking it easy. Friend told me since I am doing gear and I am new to lifting that I will want to increase weight too much, too quickly and to take it easy as that could be detrimental to my joints. Did 5 sets of squats and some hack squats on the machine. Feeling bloated 24/7 but that has to be my only complaint at the moment.

    Edit: Forgot to add this thought. If I'm being honest the one thing that has me a little anxious has to be the prami. The more I read the more I am terrified. I would like to believe that people are exaggerating and if I start at a low dose and taper up I will be fine. Well I guess we'll see right? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    Thanks man yeah I know it's a drastic amount. From me looking at my body it would appear as if someone poured a gallon of water into me. haha anyway today's log. Not really exciting.

    10/25/2016 Tuesday: About to head to bed after I finish this brisket for my second meal after my workout. Not noticing the side effects from the superdrol as much. Definitely a lot of tightness in the glutes but the pain isn’t too bad. Thinking about injecting in my delts again on thursday but I don’t know if I want to go through that pain again (every time I moved them it was like a knife stabbing me)… Trained legs today, taking it easy. Friend told me since I am doing gear and I am new to lifting that I will want to increase weight too much, too quickly and to take it easy as that could be detrimental to my joints. Did 5 sets of squats and some hack squats on the machine. Feeling bloated 24/7 but that has to be my only complaint at the moment.

    Edit: Forgot to add this thought. If I'm being honest the one thing that has me a little anxious has to be the prami. The more I read the more I am terrified. I would like to believe that people are exaggerating and if I start at a low dose and taper up I will be fine. Well I guess we'll see right? lol
    From my own experience the horror stories about prami are real - you must taper up from a low dose but the real problem doesn't rear it's head until you come off.
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    Sounds like your doing great at managing oestrogen.

    Sex change when?

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    Did you do pre blood work before cycle so you can compare them down the line? If so would you be happy to post them

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    Did you do pre blood work before cycle so you can compare them down the line? If so would you be happy to post them
    Not sure if you missed my question so thought id repost

    Sorry if its written somewhere Ive been following the log and havent noticed anything mentioned

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaxMan View Post
    Not sure if you missed my question so thought id repost

    Sorry if its written somewhere Ive been following the log and havent noticed anything mentioned
    Yeah I got blood work done by a local doctor. I got it done so I could get prescription accutane to have on hand. I never ended up getting the results he just told me everything was great and I was healthy. I am sure I could get them if I phoned in? He said my blood pressure was slightly low but that was actually a good thing and heart rate was good as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    Yeah I got blood work done by a local doctor. I got it done so I could get prescription accutane to have on hand. I never ended up getting the results he just told me everything was great and I was healthy. I am sure I could get them if I phoned in? He said my blood pressure was slightly low but that was actually a good thing and heart rate was good as well.
    Given your cycle choice, it would be vital you get the numbers to compare later down the line

    You got bloods before cycle so they should be fine, the idea is so you can compare in a few month and you will realise what your doing to your body, dont just compare the scales and the mirror, get that blood work and compare it half way through your cycle

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    QAre u measuring your BP and heart rate regularly now?
    As others have said this amount of weight gain in such a short amount of time,
    and you feel bloated 24/7 is taxing. Not to mention the amount of drugs.
    Keep an eye on BP, cause I can promise you it's allready higher than it was before cycle, but how much is impossible to tell.

    Upload some pics so we can follow your "progress", and we'd also know you're know just trolling so that stops distracting us.
    Just do a simple selfie with your phone, unflexed but with good posture, and flexed. (Don't care how many poses)

    And yeah, you know you will get some criticism on those pics because of what you're doing, but you'll get some sound advice too.
    I'll expect you'll look very puffy, but if you don't fuxk with your diet so that what you gain is water and muscle, not fat, then you'll lean out again when you stop the compounds.

    I'm trying to be helpful here, and I also have to say that I have my doubts you'll actually finish this cycle.
    But maybe you do, even when your body tells u to stop,
    just be aware that possible dangerous reactions can happen.

    Watch that BP and if you have a blood pressure monitor that detects irregular heart rhythm as well, that's better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    QAre u measuring your BP and heart rate regularly now?
    As others have said this amount of weight gain in such a short amount of time,
    and you feel bloated 24/7 is taxing. Not to mention the amount of drugs.
    Keep an eye on BP, cause I can promise you it's allready higher than it was before cycle, but how much is impossible to tell.

    Upload some pics so we can follow your "progress", and we'd also know you're know just trolling so that stops distracting us.
    Just do a simple selfie with your phone, unflexed but with good posture, and flexed. (Don't care how many poses)

    And yeah, you know you will get some criticism on those pics because of what you're doing, but you'll get some sound advice too.
    I'll expect you'll look very puffy, but if you don't fuxk with your diet so that what you gain is water and muscle, not fat, then you'll lean out again when you stop the compounds.

    I'm trying to be helpful here, and I also have to say that I have my doubts you'll actually finish this cycle.
    But maybe you do, even when your body tells u to stop,
    just be aware that possible dangerous reactions can happen.

    Watch that BP and if you have a blood pressure monitor that detects irregular heart rhythm as well, that's better.
    I wont criticize any more. Believe this is all just bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    QAre u measuring your BP and heart rate regularly now?
    As others have said this amount of weight gain in such a short amount of time,
    and you feel bloated 24/7 is taxing. Not to mention the amount of drugs.
    Keep an eye on BP, cause I can promise you it's allready higher than it was before cycle, but how much is impossible to tell.

    Upload some pics so we can follow your "progress", and we'd also know you're know just trolling so that stops distracting us.
    Just do a simple selfie with your phone, unflexed but with good posture, and flexed. (Don't care how many poses)

    And yeah, you know you will get some criticism on those pics because of what you're doing, but you'll get some sound advice too.
    I'll expect you'll look very puffy, but if you don't fuxk with your diet so that what you gain is water and muscle, not fat, then you'll lean out again when you stop the compounds.

    I'm trying to be helpful here, and I also have to say that I have my doubts you'll actually finish this cycle.
    But maybe you do, even when your body tells u to stop,
    just be aware that possible dangerous reactions can happen.

    Watch that BP and if you have a blood pressure monitor that detects irregular heart rhythm as well, that's better.
    Yeah I will man. I was going to take a video for instagram tomorrow as that's when I inject but I could today. I will screen capture the pictures like I did last week. I'll try to get closer, it's tough to get good quality as I have that old shitty iphone. After my last 6+(i know still old) broke I said I was done wasting money on phones.

    Oh btw. I am moving back in with my dad (dr) soon for the winter. He will be monitoring me and sending me in to make sure everything's fine.

    Edit: Oh and before all the comments come about irresponsible father etc.. I talked to him the other day and told him my plan. Long conversation. Doesn't agree(understatement) but ended with something like: "if it makes me happy then I am an adult and he is not going to stand in the way of that".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    Yeah I will man. I was going to take a video for instagram tomorrow as that's when I inject but I could today. I will screen capture the pictures like I did last week. I'll try to get closer, it's tough to get good quality as I have that old shitty iphone. After my last 6+(i know still old) broke I said I was done wasting money on phones.

    Oh btw. I am moving back in with my dad (dr) soon for the winter. He will be monitoring me and sending me in to make sure everything's fine.

    Edit: Oh and before all the comments come about irresponsible father etc.. I talked to him the other day and told him my plan. Long conversation. Doesn't agree(understatement) but ended with something like: "if it makes me happy then I am an adult and he is not going to stand in the way of that".
    Your a little boy who has found his daddies gun, your playing with fire.

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    if your "research" was limited to Reddit and various online "bro-science" outlets then you haven't really researched jack shit.

    Did you tell your daddy which drugs you were doing and in what amounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    QAre u measuring your BP and heart rate regularly now?
    As others have said this amount of weight gain in such a short amount of time,
    and you feel bloated 24/7 is taxing. Not to mention the amount of drugs.
    Keep an eye on BP, cause I can promise you it's allready higher than it was before cycle, but how much is impossible to tell.

    Upload some pics so we can follow your "progress", and we'd also know you're know just trolling so that stops distracting us.
    Just do a simple selfie with your phone, unflexed but with good posture, and flexed. (Don't care how many poses)

    And yeah, you know you will get some criticism on those pics because of what you're doing, but you'll get some sound advice too.
    I'll expect you'll look very puffy, but if you don't fuxk with your diet so that what you gain is water and muscle, not fat, then you'll lean out again when you stop the compounds.

    I'm trying to be helpful here, and I also have to say that I have my doubts you'll actually finish this cycle.
    But maybe you do, even when your body tells u to stop,
    just be aware that possible dangerous reactions can happen.

    Watch that BP and if you have a blood pressure monitor that detects irregular heart rhythm as well, that's better.
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    Just took a video for instagram and screen captured a picture again. That's me at 190.8. I can get a better pic when i get home from the gym. Will do log when I get home as well. Face is bloated to all hell lol. Today I learned how important water is on these toxic orals. Could barely eat and have had the worst migraines all day.

    Edit: Oh and if anyone want's to let me know how I can cover my face in vids then I'd appreciate it. Would be easier to just upload the two past videos of me weighing in and it shows a better perspective on the physique as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    Face is bloated to all hell lol. Today I learned how important water is on these toxic orals. Could barely eat and have had the worst migraines all day.
    "toxic orals"... yea buddy.. you clearly don't have a clue what is happening inside your body right now.

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    10/26/2016 Wednesday: Just had a going away party with some friends, as I'm moving in a few days for the winter. Felt like ass all day. Seemed to be dehydration. Very dry eyes, lips, throat, very bad migraines all day. Slammed water early on at about 12:00pm and happened to fix itself by about 9:30pm. Need to stay on top of my fluids. Didn't have a productive day for eating. I'm going to give myself the day and not worry about it. Had a good training session did rows, pull downs, pull ups and deadlifts. Very pumped forearms. Working on my form for deadlifts (with a friends help), I seemed to pick it up fairly quickly. Feeling good ready to start tomorrow fresh and keep on growing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
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    Just took a video for instagram and screen captured a picture again. That's me at 190.8. I can get a better pic when i get home from the gym. Will do log when I get home as well. Face is bloated to all hell lol. Today I learned how important water is on these toxic orals. Could barely eat and have had the worst migraines all day.

    Edit: Oh and if anyone want's to let me know how I can cover my face in vids then I'd appreciate it. Would be easier to just upload the two past videos of me weighing in and it shows a better perspective on the physique as well.
    I see no difference lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    I see no difference lol
    Me neither, but it's tough to tell at his height. 20-25 lbs weight gain isn't as noticeable when spread out over such a tall frame. It's a moot point either way though, any weight gain this early is just fat and water. I've never understood the mentality of packing on as much weight as possible with no care as to what it is made up of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter35 View Post
    Me neither, but it's tough to tell at his height. 20-25 lbs weight gain isn't as noticeable when spread out over such a tall frame. It's a moot point either way though, any weight gain this early is just fat and water. I've never understood the mentality of packing on as much weight as possible with no care as to what it is made up of.
    Yeah I thought you guys would say that. I looked at the picture and was like wtf, it looks the exact same. In person there is quite a noticeable difference. Or so I have been told by other people.

    Edit: I realize the lighting is worse (didn't have all lights on last week) and it's a little further out but I was comparing the two directly on my computer. I screen captured it. This should be easier for you guys to see the size and weight gain.

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    wtf is going on in here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post

    Yeah I got blood work done by a local doctor. I got it done so I could get prescription accutane to have on hand. I never ended up getting the results he just told me everything was great and I was healthy. I am sure I could get them if I phoned in? He said my blood pressure was slightly low but that was actually a good thing and heart rate as well.
    You're 6'5 165 lbs, at least get to 200 lbs natural and then use juice

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    Boner..that is all today folks

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    It's pretty much all water and shit in any event. In fact, lots and lots of shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    It's pretty much all water and shit in any event. In fact, lots and lots of shit.
    You think bro? Honestly, I definitely see size gain on my shoulders, even in the pictures. More capped? I don't know. Guess it's just a waiting game now anyways right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolltted View Post
    You think bro? Honestly, I definitely see size gain on my shoulders, even in the pictures. More capped? I don't know. Guess it's just a waiting game now anyways right?
    I think you are full of shit, yes.
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

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