Methyl 1-Test

[LM1332]

yeah man just chill out eat some protein instead

[MMC78]

Quick Facts

Methyl-1-testosterone is not a prohormone, it is a steroid.

Methyl-1-test doesn't convert to DHT. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the compound isn't very androgenic. It's easy on the hairline and skin.

Methyl-1-test doesn't convert to estrogen, little bloating is reported.

Methyl-1-test isn't like 1-test. Methylating the molecule changes it's properties to a large extent, i.e. Dianabol is in fact just a methylated form of boldenone
altered with a C-17 methyl group to allow for oral dosing. Anyone who has done boldenone and dianabol knows that they are different.

Cheapest place to buy:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/legal/methyl.html
LegalGear was one of the first and most respectable companies to market methyl-1-test.

No, I've never tried it, but everything I've heard about it has been positive. Don't expect this product to be around for long though.

[FmRommel]

Quick Facts

Methyl-1-testosterone is not a prohormone, it is a steroid.

Methyl-1-test doesn't convert to DHT. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the compound isn't very androgenic. It's easy on the hairline and skin.

Methyl-1-test doesn't convert to estrogen, little bloating is reported.

I would love to believe this....but...I know it doesnt convert to estrogen, but not DHT either? Is this at all possible?

FM

[hoss827]

Naw...cheapese place to buy would probably be www.massnutrition.com Everythin is cheaper there.

[MMC78]

It's already 5-alpha reduced, so no it doesn't convert to DHT. This doesn't mean that it doesn't exert any androgenic however.

[RockyX]

So, like any other steroid, if I were to take this at my age now (18) would it have an effect on my natural testosterone levels? I don't want to take it and have any adverse effects, but at the same time I would like to get my hands on the stuff before they put a stop to it. Just don't want to put myself on a downward spiral ya know?

[MMC78]

Yes, it will shut down your natural testosterone pretty hard in the first 4-5 days. 18 is still too young for this kind of compound.

[RP7]

Whats the best way to cycle this stuff?
-2 weeks on, 2 weeks off or 4 weeks on?

Do you need clomid? Will tribulus do the trick post-cycle?

Is this stuff legal in Canada?

......oh man is this thread ever getting me excited!

[MMC78]

You will stop growing and there's a good chance that you'll mess up your endocrine system permanently.

[RP7]

Whats the best way to cycle this stuff????

[MMC78]

Whats the best way to cycle this stuff????

Well, most people are doing 2 weeks of 20mg/day. Then 2 weeks of PCT, then another 2 weeks 20mg then 2 weeks PCT.

There's a lot of m1t cycle logs at bodybuilding.com. But there's also a lot of garbage to sort through as well .

[RP7]

Well, most people are doing 2 weeks of 20mg/day. Then 2 weeks of PCT, then another 2 weeks 20mg then 2 weeks PCT.

There's a lot of m1t cycle logs at bodybuilding.com. But there's also a lot of garbage to sort through as well .

What are guys using for PCT?

[nostawk]

for pct use clomid or nolva and for whoever asked if designersupps is any good ive orderd from them and their customer service is definatley good and there are no reasons to doubt their products

[German]

If I did a heavy 3 week cycle of m1t and 4 diol could I safely get away with using 6oxo and tribex for anti-E?Iam currently 6'1'' and 220 pounds(intermediate bodybuilding level).

[MMC78]

No you can't get away with just 6-oxo. Use real PCT or your're just asking for bad side effects.

[FmRommel]

No you can't get away with just 6-oxo. Use real PCT or your're just asking for bad side effects.

Agreed...dont risk it.

FM

[Buddie]

www.powernutrition.com has got it

[German]

Is there anything over the counter I can use for PCT?Could a 2 on 2 off cycle be mild enough to eliminate the need for anything prescription?

[MMC78]

Hello McFly!!!! Anybody home?

No. Get ahold of clomid and/or nolvadex.

[RP7]

Would the nolvadex be better?

Forgive my lack of steroid knowledge but I thought clomid was better for steroids that really armoatise.

Also, would using Nutrex's 1-TU make any difference, or do all 1-T products have the same effect on the body's natural test production?

[FmRommel]

RP7....
Nolva and Clomid together are ideal...but if you can only get one, go with clomid man, you need your nat test levels up, but to block the elevated estrogen, both is ideal...theyre not expensive and easy to get...go with that. Check the educational forums for clomid doseage...but keep the nolva at about 20-40mgs a day

FM

[MMC78]

1-T is not the same as methyl-1-test. They are significantly different compounds.

[German]

Should M1T be taken on an empty stomach or full?

[FmRommel]

Should M1T be taken on an empty stomach or full?

Any Oil-Based supp should be taken with a good meal to help absorbtion..
Or at least a healthy snack

FM

[RP7]

1-T is not the same as methyl-1-test. They are significantly different compounds.

Methyl-1-test isn't like 1-test. Methylating the molecule changes it's properties to a large extent, i.e. Dianabol is in fact just a methylated form of boldenone
altered with a C-17 methyl group to allow for oral dosing. Anyone who has done boldenone and dianabol knows that they are different.

How much more effective is methyl-1-test compared to a 'normal' 1-test product? I was looking at buying Nutrex 1-TU simply because it was the best selling brand at bodybuilding.com - thought that had to count for something? If they are so much different, do these 'normal' 1-test products require PCT as well?

[BREASTMAN]

How much more effective is methyl-1-test compared to a 'normal' 1-test product? I was looking at buying Nutrex 1-TU simply because it was the best selling brand at bodybuilding.com - thought that had to count for something? If they are so much different, do these 'normal' 1-test products require PCT as well?

M 1-T is in another league from regular 1-test products...both in effectiveness and toxicity.

Yes, even regular 1-test products require pct, but only with OTC products like 6-OXO, etc.

[IronAdam]

M 1-T is in another league from regular 1-test products...both in effectiveness and toxicity.

Yes, even regular 1-test products require pct, but only with OTC products like 6-OXO, etc.

What about aromodex as an anti-E? Seems lame that manufacturers can produce what is essentially a legal steroid but they cant make an effective legal anti-E.

[BREASTMAN]

What about aromodex as an anti-E? Seems lame that manufacturers can produce what is essentially a legal steroid but they cant make an effective legal anti-E.

Aromadex is excellent. I have used it several times myself with success. VPX recommends 8 cc per day, but 12 cc does the job for me. I like it better than 6-OXO.

[MMC78]

I'm trying not to be rude, but you seriously have to do some searches on the bodybuilding.com forum. Or just go to the supplements section and read a few M1T threads.

[LM1332]

this is a great website for information on M1T plus you can buy it only for like 10 bucks NOW THTS A DEAL!!!! http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=38
and i was wondering what would happen if you stack it with T BomB?

[kaotik1]

from what i read from the leagal gear stuff is its not supposed to affect the liver or your sex drive so hmm.. who knows.. if it did affect my sex drive what would i take anyone got a link?? cuz im pretty sure my g/f wouldnt be to happy about that one..

[German]

Iam going on my sixth day of m1t and Iam keeping very detailed records.I will post them when Iam finished.Iam doing a 15 day cycle.

[Billmister]

I KNOW pct is needed because m1t shuts you down... but WHILE on are you supposed to take something?.. like 6OXO or nolva???? i'm talking about WHILE ON... while off i know something like nolva or clomid is neede... but WHILE on... can anyone answer this?

[nsa]

M1t doesn't aromatize, so their is no need to waste any anti-e while on m1t, save it for pct.

[baller45]

This stuff is very androgenic and feels very androgenic. Be ready.
I started too high and had to drop the dose, but I'm starting to climb up to 15mg.
The worst sides are the nausea and lack of appetite.
Its been over a week and the sides are easing up.

[sugar-ray]

Started my M1T cycle one week ago, since then I have gone from 187lbs up to 195. I am taking 20 mg a day.
Strength increases are there as well.
As far as sides , the only thing I have noticed is the appetite suppression.No lethagy at all. In fact I feel even more energized.

I have made tremendous gains in the last couple of years.
In 2001 I was 35years old weighed
145 lbs, and smoked a pack a day of players filter.
Then one day I was driving home listening to the radio. There was some nutritional talk show going on about HGH supplements.
This caught my interest. Next thing I knew I was at the local gym.
I had quit smoking, and was starting to see results almost right away. I went natural for quite some time, maybe a year or so.
Then I hit a platueau at about 175lbs. Got some gear and climbed up to 196 lbs. (Deca+D-Bol) Lost a little after and was hovering around 186 to 188 . I was tempted a few times to smoke again but with the gains I had made thre was no @%&*ing way I was gonna lose that!!
People looked at me in a whole new light as well. It was really freaking weird .....it seemed to be contagiuos. Everybody around me wanted a piece of what I had found ...people at work stated asking me what gym I went to what my diet was etc etc. Even the owner of My workplace got in there. He opened up a gym himself. Spent tens of thousands of dollars on it. I was also promoted within My company as well. It was like some stupid comicbook story.....LOL. Anyway as far as the M1T , I am very glad happy with the results , hopefully I can keep a good portion of the gains I made. I know I will lose some , But would like to get over the 200lbs mark, and settle back to around 195 or so.
Well see. I will post an update on my progress.

[delusion168]

Quick question for the uninformed(myself). I read somewhere a while back that 1-ad should be taken with 4-ad. Does the same rule apply for the m 1-t? I am ordering MONSTER TEST (M 1-T) 240 CC, and MAD-250 240 CC (4-AD) from massnutrition.com, am i wasting my money? Also, I'm a Marine stationed in Iraq, should i be worried about popping on a piss test with this stuff? LASTLY, i weight about 145 and am 5'10'' and 21 years old.. I'm very fit, just pretty light. What would be the recomeded dossage for someone about my size? What about cycling? Thanks for all the help gents.

[BREASTMAN]

With M 1-T aka Monster Test you should certainly use a 4-AD product. With MAD 250 you have one, but in general, its not very healthy to take 2 methylated products at once. What you CAN do is take only a half dose of each, which will probably work quite well for someone of your weight anyway. So, 5 cc daily of Monster and 3 cc daily of MAD would be your dose.

As far as flagging a drug test...yes, its possible with these products. If you know when they are scheduled, try to get off these products about a week before.

You should also purchase some VPX Aromadex or Ergopharm 6-OXO for "off" periods. You should do 2 weeks Monster/MAD, then 2 weeks Aromadex or OXO, then 2 weeks Monster/MAD, then 4 weeks Aromadex or OXO. Done!

[zOaib]

With M 1-T aka Monster Test you should certainly use a 4-AD product. With MAD 250 you have one, but in general, its not very healthy to take 2 methylated products at once. What you CAN do is take only a half dose of each, which will probably work quite well for someone of your weight anyway. So, 5 cc daily of Monster and 3 cc daily of MAD would be your dose.

As far as flagging a drug test...yes, its possible with these products. If you know when they are scheduled, try to get off these products about a week before.

You should also purchase some VPX Aromadex or Ergopharm 6-OXO for "off" periods. You should do 2 weeks Monster/MAD, then 2 weeks Aromadex or OXO, then 2 weeks Monster/MAD, then 4 weeks Aromadex or OXO. Done!

i am gonna start M1T monster test by vpx , i was thinking of stacking it with 1-tu by nutrex , does anyone think its a good stack , or just get 4ad with the m1t . lem me know thx

[nsa]

I don't think stacking it with 1-tu is a good idea at all. Why would you want to stack m1t with another 1-test product? Just go with 4-ad to offset the lethargy and loss of libido.