Jay Won

[G-1000]

I think jay looks much better then ronnie. That is the first time A Mr.O has lost and has not steped down.

[Chad B]

I think it is funny how people get into the conspiracy theory. Come on guys, it is a little far fetched to think that a whole row of judges conspired to be dishonest in a BB competition. I mean it is hard for 2 people to keep quite let alone a bunch, ever heard the saying, “the best way two people can keep a secret is if one is dead?”

Face the truth. I have no favorite but I am opening minded. It is clear to all the judges and reasonable people that Jay had a better body. What a better body means is an equal balance between mass and proportionate, which Jay had over everybody. Another word the winner should always be the person with the most mass while still proportionate.

But hey, a lot of people here are just obsessed with size; they have lost touch of the artistic side of BB, which thank god the judges haven’t.

chad

[scriptfactory]

I think it is funny how people get into the conspiracy theory. Come on guys, it is a little far fetched to think that a whole row of judges conspired to be dishonest in a BB competition. I mean it is hard for 2 people to keep quite let alone a bunch, ever heard the saying, “the best way two people can keep a secret is if one is dead?”

Face the truth. I have no favorite but I am opening minded. It is clear to all the judges and reasonable people that Jay had a better body. What a better body means is an equal balance between mass and proportionate, which Jay had over everybody. Another word the winner should always be the person with the most mass while still proportionate.

But hey, a lot of people here are just obsessed with size; they have lost touch of the artistic side of BB, which thank god the judges haven’t.

chad

If Jay is so proportionate how do you explain the right side of his body. If looks like some kind of muscle eating bacteria attacked his right arm and leg leaving it much smaller than his left. His right arm is 20" and his left is like 23"... Retarded.

[pepperoni]

If Jay is so proportionate how do you explain the right side of his body. If looks like some kind of muscle eating bacteria attacked his right arm and leg leaving it much smaller than his left. His right arm is 20" and his left is like 23"... Retarded.

this is just flat out not true at all, not much else to say. One arm may appear a bit bigger, but there is nowhere near a 3 inch difference, and probably not any difference at all if measured.

And if we are talking about flaws, then nobody can argue that Ronnie's abs are just terrible. looks like a pile of slop on his gut.

This doesn't mean I think Jay should have won, but It's hard to argue against any of the top guys winning. Everyone at this level is very closely matched, so you can make an argument for ALMOST anyone to win.

[Anavar Man]

The "O" is so fixed it makes my cat look like she never got her tubes tied. Now Jay can receive the biggest Weider contract of all time and he can make his eight year run.

[scriptfactory]

this is just flat out not true at all, not much else to say. One arm may appear a bit bigger, but there is nowhere near a 3 inch difference, and probably not any difference at all if measured.

Have you looked at any of his recent pictures.

And if we are talking about flaws, then nobody can argue that Ronnie's abs are just terrible. looks like a pile of slop on his gut.

Jay is like the only pro bodybuilder with a 9-pack... His gut is as wide as a fridge and looks like someone decided to cut up their ravioli...

This doesn't mean I think Jay should have won, but It's hard to argue against any of the top guys winning. Everyone at this level is very closely matched, so you can make an argument for ALMOST anyone to win.

I do agree with you here. I would have accepted ANYONE else in the top 5 as the winner, except for Jay. He simply didn't look great this year. He looked worse than last year, IMO.

[pepperoni]

Have you looked at any of his recent pictures.


Jay is like the only pro bodybuilder with a 9-pack... His gut is as wide as a fridge and looks like someone decided to cut up their ravioli...


I do agree with you here. I would have accepted ANYONE else in the top 5 as the winner, except for Jay. He simply didn't look great this year. He looked worse than last year, IMO.

I have seen plenty of recent photos, and one arm may appear a bit larger, but there is nowhere near a 3 inch difference.

haha "cut up their ravioli"

[Chad B]

I think it is funny how people get into the conspiracy theory. Come on guys, it is a little far fetched to think that a whole row of judges conspired to be dishonest in a BB competition. I mean it is hard for 2 people to keep quite let alone a bunch, ever heard the saying, “the best way two people can keep a secret is if one is dead?”

Face the truth. I have no favorite but I am opening minded. It is clear to all the judges and reasonable people that Jay had a better body. What a better body means is an equal balance between mass and proportionate, which Jay had over everybody. Another word the winner should always be the person with the most mass while still proportionate.

But hey, a lot of people here are just obsessed with size; they have lost touch of the artistic side of BB, which thank god the judges haven’t.

chad

Bump!!

[scriptfactory]

I have seen plenty of recent photos, and one arm may appear a bit larger, but there is nowhere near a 3 inch difference.

haha "cut up their ravioli"

Ok, maybe not 3 inches but there is a pretty noticeable difference. My wife asked if he got hurt on the right side of his body because his arm looks injured.

Every time I see his front double bi shot I feel like singing that song from Sesame Street, "One of these things isn't like the other..."

[Chad B]

If Jay is so proportionate how do you explain the right side of his body. If looks like some kind of muscle eating bacteria attacked his right arm and leg leaving it much smaller than his left. His right arm is 20" and his left is like 23"... Retarded.

All the judges thought so...but you are a better judge than all them right?

[marsab73]

Go Jay Way Overdue.....stop Hating Guys...jay Looks Great From The Pics And Video Ive Seen......go Jay....i Predict Gustavo Or Victor Next Year.....what Does The Future Hold For Ronnie ...will He Retire.....or Continue...?

[marsab73]

I Guess You Cant Please Everyone Everytime

[scriptfactory]

All the judges thought so...but you are a better judge than all them right?

Exactly right. I have a strong suspicion they were on hallucinogenic drugs that night due to the fact that the better bodybuilder did not win...

[Kärnfysikern]

I dont care much for what the judges say, the pics I have seen(and I know pics and real life is alot different) showed that ronnie was better in every pose and Im not a mass freak fan, I want dexter to win because he has the best body imo. But Jay is even less astheticly pleasing then Ronnie. I have never understood what the Cutler hype is all about. He has one of the most boring bodies of any pro bodybuilder. When he flexes nothing happens, his waist is like a cow and his abs are funky.

Was any member at the O?

[Undecided09]

I want video of the callout of the winner, and not that thing Rake put up....

[Flagg]

I don't know man but from those pics Ron looks hella better than Jay.

Okay, IF the judges believed that Jay was actually better than fine...seems kinda bullshit if they did it cause they felt sorry for him

[Anabolic CEO]

We want video....We want video....We want video....lol

[Carlos_E]

I dont care much for what the judges say, the pics I have seen(and I know pics and real life is alot different) showed that ronnie was better in every pose and Im not a mass freak fan, I want dexter to win because he has the best body imo. But Jay is even less astheticly pleasing then Ronnie. I have never understood what the Cutler hype is all about. He has one of the most boring bodies of any pro bodybuilder. When he flexes nothing happens, his waist is like a cow and his abs are funky.

I agree. I never understood the hype either.

[scriptfactory]

I agree. I never understood the hype either.

I understand it but I'm not going to go into it... it doesn't have anything to do with physiques, if you know what I mean.

[Carlos_E]

I understand it but I'm not going to go into it... it doesn't have anything to do with physiques, if you know what I mean.

You mean the great white hope?

[RuhlFreak55]

I agree. I never understood the hype either.

me neither and he trains like a fricken pansy......not intense at all most of the time

[HORSE~]

me neither and he trains like a fricken pansy......not intense at all most of the time

Uh yea I dont think trains like a pansy would fit anybody at that leval of BB........

I wish I could train like a pansy and get that big........

[Chad B]

I dont care much for what the judges say, the pics I have seen(and I know pics and real life is alot different) showed that ronnie was better in every pose and Im not a mass freak fan, I want dexter to win because he has the best body imo. But Jay is even less astheticly pleasing then Ronnie. I have never understood what the Cutler hype is all about. He has one of the most boring bodies of any pro bodybuilder. When he flexes nothing happens, his waist is like a cow and his abs are funky.

Was any member at the O?

Nothing like your own two eyes.

I sell buy and sell vintage cars on the internet. You can have two cars, one looks better in pics, but when you see them in person you can’t believe you thought the other one was better. The pictures did not show all the dings and the real quality of the paint surface, hence not being able to see the fine detail in pics.

Get it? So you can’t really judge without seeing in person. Pictures don’t even come close to the eyes.

Chad

[taiboxa]

man if i was ron i would be a raging ball of blakhate killin everyone but thats just me

[MAXIMA5]

if you take a good look then you'll see its from 2001.

-rodge

OK, it must not be posted to Youtube yet.

I always like to see what songs everyone uses in their routine.

[humungus88]

You mean the great white hope?

Hmmm........lets see, all heavyweight boxing champs are white right now, could BB be next?

[Kärnfysikern]

Nothing like your own two eyes.

I sell buy and sell vintage cars on the internet. You can have two cars, one looks better in pics, but when you see them in person you can’t believe you thought the other one was better. The pictures did not show all the dings and the real quality of the paint surface, hence not being able to see the fine detail in pics.

Get it? So you can’t really judge without seeing in person. Pictures don’t even come close to the eyes.

Chad

Yupp I know pics and real life tells different stories. But Ronnie sure looks supreme to me. I dont know it seems fishy. I hope some AR member was on the olympia and can give first hand account of what it was like.