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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    What white skinned people were kidnapped and sold into slavery. Indentured servitude is totally different than the African slave trade. Please do some research before speaking on topics you know nothing about. Besides, Kratos cleared up this argument in a very short, terse post on page one. Look it up and read it. Besides, no one was asking for reperations or complaining about slavery. As a matter of fact, that is not what this thread is about so why even take it there? Or maybe you're just a bandwagon jumper trying to stir shit up...
    so because it not your ideas or what you have studied it must not be true right? sometimes people go looking for the answer they want and no matter what they see they find what they want... it maybe the truth or not but it is what they are looking for. as for stiring things up not really you just dont like what i found to be truthful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Because BET Tv is owned by Viacom, the same company that owns MTV. Ebony mag is owned by the same company that owns Time magazine. Both companies are headed by whites, not blacks. Neither owns a race but a product. Again, what is your point of this?
    simple the point is that if they (who ever they are) ever came out with the same mag for white people it would be a bad thing, or tv show it would be a bad thing ... why is that ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    so because it not your ideas or what you have studied it must not be true right? sometimes people go looking for the answer they want and no matter what they see they find what they want... it maybe the truth or not but it is what they are looking for. as for stiring things up not really you just dont like what i found to be truthful.

    look people are allowed their own thoughts and if you were in their shoes maybe you would c i their way///\\\
    So are you asking for a history of the AFrican Slave trade? Or are you asking for dissertation of the difference between the African Slave trade and European endentured servitude? I could provide suggested reading on both issues if you are interested... But it seems to me that you have no desire to learn, but rather to expouse more foolish rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    so because it not your ideas or what you have studied it must not be true right? sometimes people go looking for the answer they want and no matter what they see they find what they want... it maybe the truth or not but it is what they are looking for. as for stiring things up not really you just dont like what i found to be truthful.

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    look man, it's a mute point
    who is responsible for drug trade? The cartel or the mexican who runs it across the boder between his ass cheques. Clearly whites were very involved in the slave trade from point of orgin, to a market for the slaves. Does it matter whites exploited poor Africans in need of food, and guns for protection to do the dirty work? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    simple the point is that if they (who ever they are) ever came out with the same mag for white people it would be a bad thing, or tv show it would be a bad thing ... why is that ok?
    Because it reaches a certain demographic. Latinos have their own mag and channels. Jews have their own mags and channels, etc., etc. The fact remains that there are niche markets to be exploited for monetary gains so appealing to them aren't racist, but rather smart marketing. The Nashville Network is a white channel, right? I don't recall very many minorities on that channel. There are many magazines that cater to a predominantly white audience as well. Nothing racist about, again, smart marketing for monetary gain!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    You will be missed....and it all came about without a single shot fired. My god what an extremely effective scheme to destroy a culture and soveriegn nation. They have the "people" believing this garbage "Diversity"..."Don't be racist".."Accept this culture"...they have everyone so afraid to be "racist" that they spend all their time kissing immigrant ass while forgetting their own culture. Face it, America simply no longer has a culture and will follow the same route as Europe.


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    and...what do you want us to do about it?
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    OH MY GOD, WHITE CHRISTIANS BETTER START FVCKING...
    here is the direction of the conversation... so who changed it? me? some white dude? or bgmc31? you(kratos)?

    look it is simple imo state what you want, challenge every thing... and above all love God and each other

    as for bgmc i love him a well even though i think he dislikes white people... that is ok and i respect that BUT the next person who doesnt like black people he cant have much to say cause he carries the same values just black to white or white to black... get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    here is the direction of the conversation... so who changed it? me? some white dude? or bgmc31? you(kratos)?

    look it is simple imo state what you want, challenge every thing... and above all love God and each other

    as for bgmc i love him a well even though i think he dislikes white people... that is ok and i respect that BUT the next person who doesnt like black people he cant have much to say cause he carries the same values just black to white or white to black... get it?
    You're assumptions my you look like an ass!!! Just because I refute ignorant claims about minorities, I don't like white people? That's absurd!!! My comment about white people better start fvcking is in response to the thread that says whites aren't reproducing in sufficient numbers. So what would be the solution to that...the need to start, correct? Is that show I don't like white people or just pointing out the obvious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    look man, it's a mute point
    who is responsible for drug trade? The cartel or the mexican who runs it across the boder between his ass cheques. Clearly whites were very involved in the slave trade from point of orgin, to a market for the slaves. Does it matter whites exploited poor Africans in need of food, and guns for protection to do the dirty work? I think not.
    mute point agreed cause many of the slaves were sold by blacks - so who is worse the black slave traders or the white buyers ? i guess imo it would be the black slave traders cause they placed a value on the head of innocent people... or one could say the white buyers cause they paid the money....

    the point i would like to bring up and end for the whole world is where are the people who could be held responsible? who do we arrest for those crimes?

    if we cant find them let agree to move on and embrace our past, show pride for how far we came

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    This thread was about the decline of European (white, christian) cultures due to (non-white, non-christian) immigration...

    What about the American slave trade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    You're assumptions my you look like an ass!!! Just because I refute ignorant claims about minorities, I don't like white people? That's absurd!!! My comment about white people better start fvcking is in response to the thread that says whites aren't reproducing in sufficient numbers. So what would be the solution to that...the need to start, correct? Is that show I don't like white people or just pointing out the obvious?
    its you covering your ass for a raciest comment... what if i said back men should stop getting women preg and start taking care of what they have already produced ... it is a numerical fact and cant be disputed - would i be a raciest for pointing that out? or "just pointing out the obvious?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    its you covering your ass for a raciest comment... what if i said back men should stop getting women preg and start taking care of what they have already produced ... it is a numerical fact and cant be disputed - would i be a raciest for pointing that out? or "just pointing out the obvious?"
    No I'm not covering my ass. There was nothing racist about my comment and you know it. As far as blacks not taking care of their own, I've stated that same thing numerous times, so where is the racism in that comment if it applies to the topic. Look you seem to have a misunderstanding of what is considered racism and what isn't. The truth isn't racist, but skewing to truth in order to further racist ideology is...get it? Keep trying brotha!!!

    Again, what does any of this have to do with this thread?

    I'll give you the last word Amcon. I'll bow out gracefully because this thread has nothing to do with the original post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce View Post
    4th: when muslim immigrate to europe because their countries are depressed and backwards..it further drains those countries as the people that tend to leave are the most talented-there is an endless 'brain-drain' making the situation even worse.
    This is FALSE, atleast in my country. Infact its the exact opposite.
    Take it from someone who lives in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    You mean "it was my home" right?

    Oh that's right, Muslim xenos are taking over. Next week it'll be the NWO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    mute point agreed cause many of the slaves were sold by blacks - so who is worse the black slave traders or the white buyers ? i guess imo it would be the black slave traders cause they placed a value on the head of innocent people... or one could say the white buyers cause they paid the money....

    the point i would like to bring up and end for the whole world is where are the people who could be held responsible? who do we arrest for those crimes?

    if we cant find them let agree to move on and embrace our past, show pride for how far we came
    This comment reeks of intollerance. You are actually trying to exonerate guilt from Europeans and trying to say it was all because of Africans. Kratos is right, you clearly have issues as is being shown in your attitude toward BgMc31. I mean do you actually have an opinion on what this thread is about, that apparantly Muslims parents are having 8 kids at a time and slowly taking over the West. Or do you just want to validate white people? At the end of the day, whites and blacks are as bad as each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightwolf View Post
    this is false, atleast in my country. Infact its the exact opposite.
    Take it from someone who lives in europe.


    i live in europe to m8 . And this place is going to the dogs ireland used to be a beautiful country now its full of these "people "
    constantly begging at every cornor complainging about this and that , well guess what you dont like it fvck off i didnt ask you to move here you came here and now want us to change our ways to suit you . Mosques going up every where you look . Its a disgrace .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    Yeah, I think you should do that.
    That was not very nice, I have taken my meds today so will leave this alone....haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWolf View Post
    This is FALSE, atleast in my country. Infact its the exact opposite.
    Take it from someone who lives in Europe.
    There is a thread of truth to it...a lot of doctors do leave and go where they can make money.
    They have to pass the Euro or US boards so it's often the smarter ones who can get out.

    But honestly, they can keep the docs...for every one of them comes many uneducated drains on society.

    I know 4 docs personally that come from the middle east

    1. is a brain surgeon...he left Lebanon because of terrorism and said it was becoming increasingly hostile to Christians (and that's what he is). The school he went to no longer does this but at the time, it was US accredited and he could come directly here. He still goes back to visit and sends money home. Great guy, family guy, not the best neuro-surgeon but knows his limitations and doesn't attempt anything outside his skill level.

    2. A radiologist, born in Istanbul...not a religious guy, married to a Catholic...phenominal doctor but educated in America. Stayed in America after school, met his wife.

    3. A psychiatrist from Syria and educated there, he's a muslim and the crappiest doctor I know (not saying this is the cause of his crappiness). He doesn't practice medicine though, he practices money. See's patients for a max of 5min and slams out scripts. He's been kicked out of the office across the street from his office. Married a Christian in Syria and came to America to get rich. He divorced his wife with 3 children because his father on his death bed told him he wouldn't rest until he was married to one of God's people. He divorced her over the phone from Syria, and took a new 17 year old Muslim girl back with him and at this point he was in his 40's.

    4. Another brain surgeon...a muslim and African royalty...genious and amazing guy, very intense. He also came here for part of his education and he is at a teaching hospital...recruits more Africans to come over and become educated...very helpful to training doctors who will practice in their native countries.

    So, from my experience it isn't a clear brain drain because of Israel. Also, plenty of uneducates come with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Oh that's right, Muslim xenos are taking over. Next week it'll be the NWO.
    It's a scare tactic video but there is truth to a shift in Europe.


    "David Coleman, Professor of Demography at Oxford University, said: “The implications are very substantial. Some of the Muslim population, by no means all of them, are the least socially and economically integrated of any in the United Kingdom ... and the one most associated with political dissatisfaction."

    "Professor Coleman said that Muslims would naturally reap collective benefits from the increase in population. “In the growth of any population ... [its] voice is regarded as being stronger in terms of formulating policy, not least because we live in a democracy where most people in most religious groups and most racial groups have votes. That necessarily means their opinions have to be taken and attention to be paid to them.” "

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5621482.ece
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle18***54.ece

    “We have a cultural and social apartheid which fun-damentalists thrive off,” he says.
    In other words the cultures somewhat clash, and that's the problem if you like the way British society is and hope for your great grandchildren to enjoy the same lifetyle.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle3176455.ece
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post

    While The Times isn't the most credible source there is, its written by the same people that print The Sun, The Guardian however did print a similiar story the year before:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...feed=worldnews

    Now I don't know if there was a thread about this here, im certain I read it here, but I read a story about how white people in America could be become a minority group and that by 2050, only 45% of the population would be white with the remaining 55% being of mixed origins and other ethnic groups. If indeed this is going to happen on a world wide scale, it's not that white people are vanishing, it's that races are mixing more and more now.

    Prehaps if one day the human gene pool has become so diluted through mixing, that there is only one colour left, then maybe people will get along better?

    EDIT: I just read to the end of The Times article and noted it was sourced through a Labour Gov. doco so thats a good enough source for me.
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    The only problem I do have with prehaps more and more Muslims growing within all other cultures and society is this refusal to adapt. Im not saying all are like this, but a lot seem to have this traditionalist attitude that frankly does not belong in the 21st Century.

    I'm 100% for human development and I would hate to see the human race going slowly backward because a portion of it refuses to look forwards.

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    As long as Muslims can be integrated like I said before all that really changes is how the churches look. But, if the non integratables continue to be frustrated and reluctant to become a part of the western society, that's the problem. Fundamentalist Islam is a twisted way to live and I'd hate to see the become nothing but a home for a sick cult. Not that I'd be around to see it. So, I really don't care that much.

    It's kinda similar to my complaint mexican's live in America for a long time and never bother to learn to speak English. You wanted to come here, be a part of the country...instead all the businesses and gvmt have to provide for their diversity and ignorance for an unwillingness to change...so in the future it may become nessicary to learn Spanish in America, and it might become a fully bi-lingual country. Then you'll have the dumb-fvcks who speak either spanish or english and the educated in the middle needing to speak both to deal with the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    The only problem I do have with prehaps more and more Muslims growing within all other cultures and society is this refusal to adapt. Im not saying all are like this, but a lot seem to have this traditionalist attitude that frankly does not belong in the 21st Century.

    I'm 100% for human development and I would hate to see the human race going slowly backward because a portion of it refuses to look forwards.
    Right, and that's all I'm saying, if they come and as a result bring society backwards...that's the problem. Not that they come and bring diversity. But I would mos def say in Muslim countries the public is less educated, more traditional, more brain washable, and not moving forward or willing too anytime soon. In fact the most idiotic continuously pull the popluation into a downward spiral in these countries...the country starts moving forward, then the Muslim right wing gets all ticked off and militant and wanting to go back to traditional values and brings everyone backwards with them.

    If they come to be a part of a developed country and become a productive member of society no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    There is a thread of truth to it...a lot of doctors do leave and go where they can make money.
    They have to pass the Euro or US boards so it's often the smarter ones who can get out.
    Thats why i said "in my country" because im not sure how
    it is in the US or the rest of europe. Sure we have a couple
    of iranien dentists or some doctor but lets not compare them
    to the majority which is atleast 85% of the muslim immigrants,
    who lives of welfare (we have got the worlds most generous
    welfare system) and scams the goverment (especially iraqis do this)

    Based on this i would say his statement was false, because
    the way he was telling it, was like ONLY the smart ones left.

    Day by day the swedish people are growing very tired of
    this. On election days and by peoples extremely changed
    view about immigration issues you can clearly see this.

    Oh and passing the Euro boards are no problem, they hire
    someone called "kajachi" which means "transporter" and
    they (the kajachis) smuggle them into the borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWolf View Post
    Thats why i said "in my country" because im not sure how
    it is in the US or the rest of europe. Sure we have a couple
    of iranien dentists or some doctor but lets not compare them
    to the majority which is atleast 85% of the muslim immigrants,
    who lives of welfare (we have got the worlds most generous
    welfare system) and scams the goverment (especially iraqis do this)

    Based on this i would say his statement was false, because
    the way he was telling it, was like ONLY the smart ones left.

    Day by day the swedish people are growing very tired of
    this. On election days and by peoples extremely changed
    view about immigration issues you can clearly see this.

    Oh and passing the Euro boards are no problem, they hire
    someone called "kajachi" which means "transporter" and
    they (the kajachis) smuggle them into the borders.
    yup, it was a bullshit statement. I know plenty of Russian and Asian docs too that make a better living here.

    Sorry for compensating our professionals...clearly we do it to hurt muslims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Oh that's right, Muslim xenos are taking over. Next week it'll be the NWO.

    Hey, your country is the one allowing Sharia law courts to rule over the Muslim population. Its not gonna stop there, I will apologise to you Sir for calling your country "a pile of shit", I should have rather said it is turning into one (agree?). Its no secret that Europe with the UK in the lead is a breeding ground for the Elite's plans of a one world government and banking system.

    Don't feel bad, your country is not alone but is definately the front runner for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    Hey, your country is the one allowing Sharia law courts to rule over the Muslim population. Its not gonna stop there, I will apologise to you Sir for calling your country "a pile of shit", I should have rather said it is turning into one (agree?). Its no secret that Europe with the UK in the lead is a breeding ground for the Elite's plans of a one world government and banking system.

    Don't feel bad, your country is not alone but is definately the front runner for sure.

    I appreciate this post and I know what you are saying. Im not happy about certain relaxed Sharia laws being passed either. I mean it was done without even letting the public know. I can see this country turning to shit but it isn't just immigration (though that is a large problem) but things like youth crime is a huge problem here as well. I could definitely see myself leaving for other pastures once im finally done with school because the system here is failing but like you guys we just have a two party system dominating (Conservatives and Labour, Pepsi and Cola) and I just cant see what else anyone can do anymore.

    To be honest I am glad issues like this and climate change are being discussed, because while we might not be here in 50 years time our kids and grandkids will and it's really not on leaving them predicaments, like mentioned, to deal with. It's the same as these corrupt governments leaving a poison pill for the next administration to swallow and inherit and it's simply not on because the next administration just does the same thing and we've no right to call them out on that when the majority of the populations mentality to a problem in 50 years time is "I wont be here".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    I appreciate this post and I know what you are saying. Im not happy about certain relaxed Sharia laws being passed either. I mean it was done without even letting the public know. I can see this country turning to shit but it isn't just immigration (though that is a large problem) but things like youth crime is a huge problem here as well. I could definitely see myself leaving for other pastures once im finally done with school because the system here is failing but like you guys we just have a two party system dominating (Conservatives and Labour, Pepsi and Cola) and I just cant see what else anyone can do anymore.

    To be honest I am glad issues like this and climate change are being discussed, because while we might not be here in 50 years time our kids and grandkids will and it's really not on leaving them predicaments, like mentioned, to deal with. It's the same as these corrupt governments leaving a poison pill for the next administration to swallow and inherit and it's simply not on because the next administration just does the same thing and we've no right to call them out on that when the majority of the populations mentality to a problem in 50 years time is "I wont be here".


    I have heard that shit is out of control, to the point they are called "feral teens".
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWolf View Post
    This is FALSE, atleast in my country. Infact its the exact opposite.
    Take it from someone who lives in Europe.
    whats up night wolf????@@!!!! love that girl... tell her i said hello


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    This comment reeks of intollerance. You are actually trying to exonerate guilt from Europeans and trying to say it was all because of Africans. Kratos is right, you clearly have issues as is being shown in your attitude toward BgMc31. I mean do you actually have an opinion on what this thread is about, that apparantly Muslims parents are having 8 kids at a time and slowly taking over the West. Or do you just want to validate white people? At the end of the day, whites and blacks are as bad as each other.
    are you saying i cant have my op? what am i intollerent of? validate whites or just not giving in to the few black people blaming white people for where they are in life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    whats up night wolf????@@!!!! love that girl... tell her i said hello

    Hey Amcon,
    Good to see you man. I will be sure to say hi

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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't think of any country where there is an Islamic majority, or a country with even a significant percentage of Muslims with equality among social and religious diversity, and/or political stability. Is there a precident for Muslim tollerance? Can they live with anyone else.
    It seems like anywhere you have Islam amongst the peaceful followers you always have a percentage of activisim and eventually conflict.
    Do Islam and democracy always end up at odds? Don't Muslims prefer or desire an authoritarian government? Having the religion forced on them by law, it seems to be how they like to live, with an extreme desire to convert non-muslims or non-relgious. People who don't except this homogenious society...it always seems to go the same way, from conflict to riots to war.
    Please disprove this post, I'm not meaning to make it in ignorance. But, if you can't, I don't think it's racist or bigoted for Europe to be concerned for their way of life.

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    Uh oh...the Jews and ass kissers are at it again (its not like they ever stop but)


    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/05/08/f...ial/index.html


    I wonder how long before people will be doing prison time in the US for simply denying the Jews pity party and constant bombardment of Holocaust brainwashing? You either agree with them or suffer...
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    Remember that in Europe people have been imprisoned and punished for speaking their mind about muslims and/or the holocaust.

    Remember how Bridget Bardot said something about how muslims were "destroying the country" and faced jail time and fines for "inciting hatred"? She eventually was fined ~$25,000 and given a two month sentence (which was suspended-- she's ancient now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    Uh oh...the Jews and ass kissers are at it again (its not like they ever stop but)


    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/05/08/f...ial/index.html


    I wonder how long before people will be doing prison time in the US for simply denying the Jews pity party and constant bombardment of Holocaust brainwashing? You either agree with them or suffer...
    There are only a few reasons I can think of why someone might even take the time to deny the holococust.

    1. Probably the most common reason...they don't like Jews, and they get some sick satisfation out of getting a painful reaction.

    2. They may be of German heritage, and minimize hisorical blemishes out of national pride.

    3. They don't like Jewish politics for example Israel, and want to take support away from a cause.

    I doubt anyone is really looking at the historical facts and comming to the conclusion it didn't happen. And common denial is more likely drawing attention to it and reinforcing the Jewish cause anyway. It's my opinion that it happened, it was a horrible event, but because it happened in Europe Jews are able to get a bigger peice of spotlight then a lot of other suffering in the world. A lot of suffering goes on that doesn't get the same attention, but taking the time to deny it happend is just stupid, but also someone's free choice to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    There are only a few reasons I can think of why someone might even take the time to deny the holococust.

    1. Probably the most common reason...they don't like Jews, and they get some sick satisfation out of getting a painful reaction.

    2. They may be of German heritage, and minimize hisorical blemishes out of national pride.

    3. They don't like Jewish politics for example Israel, and want to take support away from a cause.

    I doubt anyone is really looking at the historical facts and comming to the conclusion it didn't happen. And common denial is more likely drawing attention to it and reinforcing the Jewish cause anyway. It's my opinion that it happened, it was a horrible event, but because it happened in Europe Jews are able to get a bigger peice of spotlight then a lot of other suffering in the world. A lot of suffering goes on that doesn't get the same attention, but taking the time to deny it happend is just stupid, but also someone's free choice to do so.


    No, its more like people who have read history and history shows that the Jews inflitrate and destroy countries. Everywhere they go, they cause misery and violence but hide behind "we are gods people" as an excuse that they can do no wrong.

    It's really no secret that the Jews had infiltrated and taken over most of Germany pre WWI (Gov't and Financial systems). Most business and banks were Jewish and not German.

    This Holocaust denial is a denial of the Jewish claims of what happened, many of their outlandish claims have been proven false, such as gas chambers in certain concentration camps. How many "Jews" were killed etc.

    The bottom line is, it was all sick as **** and lots of people died, and they were'nt all Jews either but the ****ers have the whole world thinking they were the only ones who suffered. That's what pisses me off.

    You would think the Jews were the only people ever mass murdered the way they brainwash everyone from early school years. There are Africans getting butchered as I type this, what about them? Are they not important? Do they not deserve the right to live?

    It's pathetic people comfort the Jews with all the Holocaust bullshit yet don't even bat an eye at the genocide that is going in in Rwhanda etc.

    The US gov't goes after Saddam for "gassing the Kurds" back in the
    80's....but does nothing about the genocide in Africa that is going RIGHT NOW! wtf?

    Do you not see the irony?

    It's blatant "We kiss Jewish ass and who cares about the black savages in Africa" mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't think of any country where there is an Islamic majority, or a country with even a significant percentage of Muslims with equality among social and religious diversity, and/or political stability. Is there a precident for Muslim tollerance? Can they live with anyone else.
    It seems like anywhere you have Islam amongst the peaceful followers you always have a percentage of activisim and eventually conflict.
    Do Islam and democracy always end up at odds? Don't Muslims prefer or desire an authoritarian government? Having the religion forced on them by law, it seems to be how they like to live, with an extreme desire to convert non-muslims or non-relgious. People who don't except this homogenious society...it always seems to go the same way, from conflict to riots to war.
    Please disprove this post, I'm not meaning to make it in ignorance. But, if you can't, I don't think it's racist or bigoted for Europe to be concerned for their way of life.

    well said

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    Oh how this is so very true

    The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea so sincerely, so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can never again escape from it.

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    I think you go too far muirlo
    who knows to what extent Jews were taking over, they were a small % of the population in Germany.
    You can't trust the anti-semetic climate in Europe of the early 1900's to report on it.
    It's overplayed...way overplayed, and lets just leave it at that.
    but part of the propaganda has roots in American and European national pride for our participation in WWII.
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    The death toll for the holocoust was most likely closer to 15 million non-combat people. With 6 million being Jews. Jews were the most intensely targeted victims, but by no means the only victim. It was a lage percentage of their total worldwide population though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    The death toll for the holocoust was most likely closer to 15 million non-combat people. With 6 million being Jews. Jews were the most intensely targeted victims, but by no means the only victim. It was a lage percentage of their total worldwide population though.

    No, they were all Jews that were murdered. Saying only 6 million were Jews is antisemetic.
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