my test e dbol 1st cycle

[Vitruvian-Man]

Whats up guys. I finish the 4th week of dbol yesterday. Bout to pin delt in a couple of minutes. This will be the begining of my 5th week. IM curently up 15pounds. No acne or discomfortable bloat. sex drive is crazy wife is loving it lol. Maybe i have some big balls because mine arent looking like raisins yet lol. Also should i continue eating the same since im done with the dbol? Should i also continue with the A.I? Thanks guys

a.) That's awesome you haven't broken out yet. I feel people are most susceptible to break-outs on their first cycle. Just watch out for PCT. I remember that biting me in the ass on my first cycle.

b.) Your balls may not even shrink on this cycle bro. (IE) There is no doubt after 12 weeks on test + d-bol that your HPTA will be shut down.. but it's not as had a shutdown as adding 19-nors into the mix etc...

Some people don't even like to incorperate HCG in simply test only cycles.

I never see testicular atrophy unless I am on deca or NPP. and then it's pretty significant.

c.) Yes - continue eating the same.

d.) Keep the AI if you want. I don't use one unless necessary; however, different strokes for different folks.

-VM

[ty357]

Big Ty when did you start feeling the affects of the TEST E? I did my 4th Shot today, which means I am 2 weeks in......I don't think mine has kicked in yet.......I am really missing the D-Bol that I ordered and it has YET to get here....UFB.......Oh well......the M-Drol is doing a little something.....BOOOOOOOOO........****ing sucks ass.......Maybe I will backload with the D-bol once it gets here.......if it does....****ing slow ass shit......

Honestly i felt it kick in around the 4th week appetite pick up like crazy and im f***ing the hell out of the wife lol. I guess those are the tell tell signs of the test e working. With the dbol i gained weight as soon as i popped my 1st one lol. overall i feel super great. loving this ish

a.) That's awesome you haven't broken out yet. I feel people are most susceptible to break-outs on their first cycle. Just watch out for PCT. I remember that biting me in the ass on my first cycle.

b.) Your balls may not even shrink on this cycle bro. (IE) There is no doubt after 12 weeks on test + d-bol that your HPTA will be shut down.. but it's not as had a shutdown as adding 19-nors into the mix etc...

Some people don't even like to incorperate HCG in simply test only cycles.

I never see testicular atrophy unless I am on deca or NPP. and then it's pretty significant.

c.) Yes - continue eating the same.

d.) Keep the AI if you want. I don't use one unless necessary; however, different strokes for different folks.

-VM

Thanks VM. So the clomid and nolva should be ok after this

[candian_born]

lookin good brotha

[ty357]

Heres how the wheels looking for now.

[ty357]

my bad

[ghettoboyd]

the wheels arnt that far off just keep hitting them hard and they will catch up...looking great as always bro keep at it...

[6ft5]

Agree w all tha above. Lol! Lookn hulkish! Ull prob drop some water in the near future and your abbs will pop out again. Yeaop, my woman loves to get banged to, it kinda makes me feel like I don't do a good job off cycle, Its cool tho I'm probobly not! Lmao!!

[candian_born]

way to go ty, you gaining weight like crazyyy

[methyl]

Lagging in ABs and forearms(extensors specifically) very badly. just do ABs 2x/week and heavy deads/traps if you hate direct forearm work but make sure you dont do alternate grip on either it takes stress of of extensors. Then your GOLDEN

[ty357]

way to go ty, you gaining weight like crazyyy

Yup Thanks bro

Lagging in ABs and forearms(extensors specifically) very badly. just do ABs 2x/week and heavy deads/traps if you hate direct forearm work but make sure you dont do alternate grip on either it takes stress of of extensors. Then your GOLDEN

Thanks bro. Well i havent did abs since i started this cycle. Im just basically just bulking up. I have a pic of my abs in the pic forum under ab pic. Big difference

[Okinawa_Power]

Lagging in ABs and forearms(extensors specifically) very badly. just do ABs 2x/week and heavy deads/traps if you hate direct forearm work but make sure you dont do alternate grip on either it takes stress of of extensors. Then your GOLDEN

Holy Shit bro don't look at my ab pictures...you would think I have a ****ing keg!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!

[bjpennnn]

looking solid bro.

[ty357]

looking solid bro.

Thanks bj

[DaBullet]

Damb bro ur a freaking BEAST!!! Man every time I see ur thread you keep me motivated bro! Kepp up the great work!

[ty357]

Damb bro ur a freaking BEAST!!! Man every time I see ur thread you keep me motivated bro! Kepp up the great work!

Thanks DB. Hows everything going with your cycle

[DaBullet]

Thanks DB. Hows everything going with your cycle

Going to start it in two weeks finally got my gear and waiting for the rest of my pct to come in, dont want to start it without having everything on hand. Thanks for all the motivation and help bro. I cant wait to post some before and after pics.

[candian_born]

what weight you trying to get to like 250?

[ty357]

what weight you trying to get to like 250?

Yea bro im trying to hit the 250 mark. lets see how much i could keep during and after pct. im already 240+ in my 7th week. Hopefully ill put up some progress pics later.

[Twist]

TY you are looking ****ing ripped bro!!! Don't forget to increase your calories as your weight increases. Try to prevent that tapering due to diet. Great progress bro.

[ghettoboyd]

i wanna be ty when i grow up....wait a minute, im an old man i guess its to late...

[oldschoolfitness]

really lean for 240lbs. you've no doubt worked really hard you deserve those gains. i was just wondering and i may have missed it totally what rep range are you currently using? good luck bro.

[ty357]

TY you are looking ****ing ripped bro!!! Don't forget to increase your calories as your weight increases. Try to prevent that tapering due to diet. Great progress bro.

Thanks twist. Twist i also not drinking all them shakes so i took your advice on that, and i will definitely up my cals through out the day. Can i add fruits to this diet as well

i wanna be ty when i grow up....wait a minute, im an old man i guess its to late...

LOL its never to late brother

really lean for 240lbs. you've no doubt worked really hard you deserve those gains. i was just wondering and i may have missed it totally what rep range are you currently using? good luck bro.

Working sets i try to stay in between the 8-12 rep range. thnks bro

[ty357]

Here how im looking so far brothers. All the advice and im's i get i follow to a t. Thank you guys. You really help me out alot. Diet is still the freaking same yuk lol. weight is still 240+. Still no acne or small balls. Im lifting everything in the gym. um elbow joints started hurting when i started to increase my weight. Other than that no itchy pecs bloat is not that bad at all. I feel very good. ThaNKS GUYS

[CMonkey]

Lookin damn good bro, keep it up!!

[ty357]

Lookin damn good bro, keep it up!!

Thank you bro

[Jumbo18]

wow....congrats....nice...wow...lol

[Twist]

You are a beast. I see that your bf didn't jump up at all. I honestly think you could eat even more. you said your diet is "yuk" I would like to remind you that you are not the type who has to avoid seasoning and such. You said you are still at 240+ and at your 7 week this is when the gains start to taper. Shove your face bro! MAke your protein shakes with peanut butter and oats and drink 3 per day in addition to your meals. A good way to create a calorie surplus is to take time off. Take a day off in between workouts maybe and eat as much as you can. There are always ways to gain more. You are so big I am actually excited while writing this. lol

[ty357]

wow....congrats....nice...wow...lol

Thanks jumbo

You are a beast. I see that your bf didn't jump up at all. I honestly think you could eat even more. you said your diet is "yuk" I would like to remind you that you are not the type who has to avoid seasoning and such. You said you are still at 240+ and at your 7 week this is when the gains start to taper. Shove your face bro! MAke your protein shakes with peanut butter and oats and drink 3 per day in addition to your meals. A good way to create a calorie surplus is to take time off. Take a day off in between workouts maybe and eat as much as you can. There are always ways to gain more. You are so big I am actually excited while writing this. lol

Thanks twist. What about adding fruit through out the day? Also im going to add thrd shake back. monday will be the beginning of my 8th week and what ever i could do to keep most of these gain let me kno brother

[Okinawa_Power]

Thanks jumbo


Thanks twist. What about adding fruit through out the day? Also im going to add thrd shake back. monday will be the beginning of my 8th week and what ever i could do to keep most of these gain let me kno brother

Twin stay away from the fruit...It is full of sugar and will only add fat. Add the shakes like our above friend said to do it will do you good. Don't let all this added muscle go to waste, start eating now...I mean really eating...no more bullshit...up those calories......continue to grow brother!!!!!

[ty357]

Twin stay away from the fruit...It is full of sugar and will only add fat. Add the shakes like our above friend said to do it will do you good. Don't let all this added muscle go to waste, start eating now...I mean really eating...no more bullshit...up those calories......continue to grow brother!!!!!

Thanks alot twin will do

[Vitruvian-Man]

You are a beast. I see that your bf didn't jump up at all. I honestly think you could eat even more. you said your diet is "yuk" I would like to remind you that you are not the type who has to avoid seasoning and such. You said you are still at 240+ and at your 7 week this is when the gains start to taper. Shove your face bro! MAke your protein shakes with peanut butter and oats and drink 3 per day in addition to your meals. A good way to create a calorie surplus is to take time off. Take a day off in between workouts maybe and eat as much as you can. There are always ways to gain more. You are so big I am actually excited while writing this. lol

He's on Test-E is gains will not be tapering whatsoever, till at least week 10 imo.

chances are he's probably experiencing full-concentrated bloodlevels only now.

-VM

[Twist]

ok twist. so i should make my workouts like 45min when i hit pct? do i also lower the weight ive been doing during pct?

Everyone has different theories on what to do in pct. I recommend eating more and make sure that you don't slip in the diet section, and training short sessions of mainly compound movements. I don't recommend working muscles hard enough that they need time to repair because this is the hardest time for your muscles to repair themselves. I would do something like this: Monday - dips, bench, standing military press, li cardio
tuesday rest
wednesday - pullups, rows, curls li cardio
thursday rest
friday - squats, calves, lunges
sat-sun rest
workout should only be 30-45 minutes and then low intensity cardio.

others have different ideas about pct.

He's on Test-E is gains will not be tapering whatsoever, till at least week 10 imo.

chances are he's probably experiencing full-concentrated bloodlevels only now.

-VM

with 2x a week injections his blood levels are pretty high within 3 weeks. Week 5 and up to week 8 he should be making huge gains and week 9 and 10 they should start to taper.

[ty357]

damn good job man simple as that. front pose of whole body looks like something between model and bodybuilder (a place where about all of us wont to be; damn my genes) seriously good luck congrats on gains and has been a cool thread to follow.

Thanks bro.

Everyone has different theories on what to do in pct. I recommend eating more and make sure that you don't slip in the diet section, and training short sessions of mainly compound movements. I don't recommend working muscles hard enough that they need time to repair because this is the hardest time for your muscles to repair themselves. I would do something like this: Monday - dips, bench, standing military press, li cardio
tuesday rest
wednesday - pullups, rows, curls li cardio
thursday rest
friday - squats, calves, lunges
sat-sun rest
workout should only be 30-45 minutes and then low intensity cardio.

others have different ideas about pct.


with 2x a week injections his blood levels are pretty high within 3 weeks. Week 5 and up to week 8 he should be making huge gains and week 9 and 10 they should start to taper.

Ok twist ill give that a shot

[CougClan]

Wow man! You pretty much look exactly how I want to look. Nice job!

[ty357]

Wow man! You pretty much look exactly how I want to look. Nice job!

Thanks alot bro

[Twist]

You should make your shakes something like this
Grind up oats in coffee grinder and mix that with 30-40g protein, add a scoop of peanut butter and a half cup of milk and blend it right up or shake it whatever. Get as much oats as you can stand in there. Also try to up the amount food you are eating also. You can add fruit pwo or in the morning after breakfast and only cut it off if you start to see some fat gain. I do not expect you to see any fat gains unless you really go to town on the local farmers market.

This is the part where you want to get as big as possible with minimal fat gains. If you gain fat, ok whatever. Just focus on adding tons of size. Once you hit pct, that is where you want to workout way less and eat just as much if not more to keep the gains. Stimulate the muscle but do not shred it up like on cycle. After PCT put the finishing touches on it with some cardio to get rid of any fat you might have gained. Then once you are happy, revamp your diet and do it all over again.

[ty357]

You should make your shakes something like this
Grind up oats in coffee grinder and mix that with 30-40g protein, add a scoop of peanut butter and a half cup of milk and blend it right up or shake it whatever. Get as much oats as you can stand in there. Also try to up the amount food you are eating also. You can add fruit pwo or in the morning after breakfast and only cut it off if you start to see some fat gain. I do not expect you to see any fat gains unless you really go to town on the local farmers market.

This is the part where you want to get as big as possible with minimal fat gains. If you gain fat, ok whatever. Just focus on adding tons of size. Once you hit pct, that is where you want to workout way less and eat just as much if not more to keep the gains. Stimulate the muscle but do not shred it up like on cycle. After PCT put the finishing touches on it with some cardio to get rid of any fat you might have gained. Then once you are happy, revamp your diet and do it all over again.

ok twist. so i should make my workouts like 45min when i hit pct? do i also lower the weight ive been doing during pct?

[oldschoolfitness]

damn good job man simple as that. front pose of whole body looks like something between model and bodybuilder (a place where about all of us wont to be; damn my genes) seriously good luck congrats on gains and has been a cool thread to follow.

[Twist]

How you doing ty?

[ty357]

How you doing ty?

whats up twist im good. next monday will be my 10 week. I havent droped one pound yet but im also not gaining as much either. weight 243. i want to do my next cycle mid august or september. but there is a local competition in october. Do you think it will be wise to run a cycle so close to a competition. if i could what you think i could run where i could benefit