Anavar cycle 43yo 2nd cycle

[LBSOMEIRON]

Classic post....I love it.

40plus - you rock my friend. You rock.

[LBSOMEIRON]

I especially LOVE the 'broad shoulder' smack.....Honest to god, I laughed out loud and I have done that reading a post in a very long time.

"you'll never be as tall or broad shouldered...." You are truly the best. This thread should be saved forever.

[tjax03]

What a ridiculous log. Too many compounds for a first cycle. You don't seem to have a clue about what you are doing and for someone older than 40 years old, you have the maturity of a 15 year old. LBsomeiron knows his shit, gives great advice and he has posted pics of himself to back up his posts. You have done a great job of making sure you will never get the advice you desperately need.

[40plusnewbie]

What a ridiculous log. Too many compounds for a first cycle. You don't seem to have a clue about what you are doing and for someone older than 40 years old, you have the maturity of a 15 year old. LBsomeiron knows his shit, gives great advice and he has posted pics of himself to back up his posts. You have done a great job of making sure you will never get the advice you desperately need.

It's not my first cycle and libshit comes across like a dick or i wouldn't have him on ignore. The manner in which he gives advice is ridiculous and childish. let me know when libshit hits his max muscle gain and i'll take a look at a pic then when i hit mine I'll put up a pic and we will let the pic's speak for themselves.

I can see that u are also in the habit of speaking like a mature adult and giving constructive criticism in an adult fashion lol

I am an adult and choose what i put in my own body. You give me a detailed write up of why what I am doing is dangerous or stfu.

[tjax03]

It's not my first cycle and libshit comes across like a dick or i wouldn't have him on ignore. The manner in which he gives advice is ridiculous and childish. let me know when libshit hits his max muscle gain and i'll take a look at a pic then when i hit mine I'll put up a pic and we will let the pic's speak for themselves.

I can see that u are also in the habit of speaking like a mature adult and giving constructive criticism in an adult fashion lol

I am an adult and choose what i put in my own body. You give me a detailed write up of why what I am doing is dangerous or stfu.

I could, but you don't appear to listen to any of the advice you are given, so I will not waste my time. Bottom line, your cycle was obviously not given much thought, or planned out at all really.

[40plusnewbie]

I could, but you don't appear to listen to any of the advice you are given, so I will not waste my time. Bottom line, your cycle was obviously not given much thought, or planned out at all really.

3 yrs ago I weighed 300 lbs. I dropped down to 217lbs and due to lack of muscle mass looked a bit emaciated so moved myself up to 220lbs. Since that time I had to serious injuries unrelated to working out where I underwent minor surgeries and had limited range of motion of one of my arms/shoulders and was in Physical Therapy for 1 year. I slowly progressed to full range of motion in the arm to not being able to raise a 2lb dumbbell out to my side, PT 3x/week for 1 year. After PT I still could not work out with heavy weight, only light weights due to risk of re-injury, so I only played with light weights for several months. Since that time I have went from 220lbs to 260lbs and I can assure you that that 43lb weight gain was not even close to all fat gain so I think I have a clue as to how to modify my body comp safely and in a healthy way. Thanks for your concern.

I agree that my cycle was not given much thought/planned out. That does not change the fact that it is not dangerous to my heath, that I am not taking proper precautions during my cycle, or that I do not have a proper PCT set and ready to go. R U gonna tell my mommy on me that my cycle wasn't planned out well in advance???

[tjax03]

3 yrs ago I weighed 300 lbs. I dropped down to 217lbs and due to lack of muscle mass looked a bit emaciated so moved myself up to 220lbs. Since that time I had to serious injuries unrelated to working out where I underwent minor surgeries and had limited range of motion of one of my arms/shoulders and was in Physical Therapy for 1 year. I slowly progressed to full range of motion in the arm to not being able to raise a 2lb dumbbell out to my side, PT 3x/week for 1 year. After PT I still could not work out with heavy weight, only light weights due to risk of re-injury, so I only played with light weights for several months. Since that time I have went from 220lbs to 260lbs and I can assure you that that 43lb weight gain was not even close to all fat gain so I think I have a clue as to how to modify my body comp safely and in a healthy way. Thanks for your concern.

I agree that my cycle was not given much thought/planned out. That does not change the fact that it is not dangerous to my heath, that I am not taking proper precautions during my cycle, or that I do not have a proper PCT set and ready to go. R U gonna tell my mommy on me that my cycle wasn't planned out well in advance???

You do realize that anavar at the dosages you are taking has the potential to wreck your lipid profile. I'm taking single digit HDL and high LDL, but you already knew that when you said there was nothing dangerous about your cycle.

[40plusnewbie]

You do realize that anavar at the dosages you are taking has the potential to wreck your lipid profile. I'm taking single digit HDL and high LDL, but you already knew that when you said there was nothing dangerous about your cycle.

FYI: My INITIAL cycle plan was test prop and var along with adex as a precaution due to my bf. My wife had thrown out a bunch of my stuff and I thought she had thrown that out too, as it came up missing. That's when I changed the cycle to var only as I wasn't going to run test at my bf without an ai.

Then I grabbed some letro and decided to pick up some cyp b/c a friend of mine wanted to run a cycle too so I got some ready made cyp rather than brewing the prop I had purchased raw. So I added in the cyp along with HCG,

As to your comment about my lipid profile: I brought my cholesterol level from a high of 278 to 136! without any medications, just through weight loss and dietary changes. I also have healthy/low bp. So don't assume I don't know what the f I am doing. U make an ass out of yourself.

My cholesterol levels off cycle are most likely better than 95% of the members here when off cycle.

My biggest side effect is tapping my wife 4x/day rather than once every 2 weeks, I'm not complaining, SHE sure as hell ain't complaining, so unless you have some constructive advice or can detail out how what I am doing is dangerous, like I said STFU.

I took an aggressive approach to wt loss and am taking an aggressive approach to muscle gain. Don't like it? I could care less.

[PistolStarta]

If you dropped the amount of weight your claiming I highly doubt you'd see any changes under you're loose skin. 70lbs of weight would leave u with huge amounts of skin.

[40plusnewbie]

If you dropped the amount of weight your claiming I highly doubt you'd see any changes under you're loose skin. 70lbs of weight would leave u with huge amounts of skin.

Not even close to huge bro. No flaps of loose skin or any of that. Just a crease/like a facial wrinkle across my lower midsection and under the love handle area. And that's part of the reason I'm not looking to moving my bf down to the 10% area at all at this point. But changes can and are being seen in my abs and other associated mid section muscles. None of the rest of my body area has been affected or will be affected as I can pack on plenty of weight due to my body type, size, and genetics. And I'm not looking to get a 32" waist, I'll grow out my obliques and keep a 36" waist.

70lbs of weight on a man of my size, and 70 lbs of weight on a man of average size are 2 very different things.

[40plusnewbie]

Did what was possibly my best workout ever today. I worked my chest and front delts. 4 sets of incline fly's, used the same weight as I did last week but got a couple extra reps out of the first 2 sets, I really was letting my arms stretch way down too. Some older guy was commenting to his workout partner next to me about the risks of letting the weights go that low. After each of the 4 sets I got about 5 incline presses directly after each set. an improvement over last week when I didn't do any. When I went to flat bench press my front delts were burning like crazy so I had to go lighter on the 3 sets of flat bench presses. My front delts were burning so much I didn't know if I'd be able to drive home as in lifting my arms up on the steering wheel.

I've got some fairly decent muscle mass from the past few weeks, I went back on var yesterday after about a week or so break. Due to the body comp change in my upper body I am gonna drop the weight gainer shakes and go high, high solid proteins, keto-ish unless it affects my mental status changing up my carb % so much and so quickly. But my physique can handle some drop in bf now and I also like to listen to my body re: the way I eat and I'm feeling the need to shovel those proteins in my gullet.

I go back to work next week, I've been away for a few weeks out sick and I think ppl are gonna question whether I was really sick or if i was at football camp or something. Fortunately I'm too old to play at 43 and can explain how my illness interfered with my ability to work but only interfered with my ability to work out for about a week. I'm expecting comments about my body comp change from co-workers and not sure how I will respond.

[morty]

I go back to work next week, I've been away for a few weeks out sick and I think ppl are gonna question whether I was really sick or if i was at football camp or something. Fortunately I'm too old to play at 43 and can explain how my illness interfered with my ability to work but only interfered with my ability to work out for about a week. I'm expecting comments about my body comp change from co-workers and not sure how I will respond.

Interesting this sounds a bit fishy, remember I'm on ignore so don't comment on my post

[Far from massive]

I stumbled across your log and I think if you look at yourself honestly you (like myself) may find you tend to go a little bit overboard, your statement about doing a double workout day and someone asking if you were O-K as you staggered to the showers and then missing a couple of days due to being sick stand out. Also if you look honestly at comment like I saw my biceps were larger than 2 days ago and my viens were visible on my shoulders that were not yesterday shows somewhat unrealistic expectations, the change in the viens was probably due to rocketing blood pressure, the biceps due to engorgment. Then there are all the comments about gaining a pound yesterday and loosing a pound today, these are just flutuations in the amount of water/crap in your body at any given time.

I am really not trying to bust you ass here, just saying that a well planned (smaller/less) cycle and a more consistant/moderate workout and diet schedule would probably serve you better. By the way I speak from experience here, I just completed my first cycle of Tren A and TNE at 60/75 ed and after PCT and another month of recovery, I plan to incorporate a much milder cycle the next time around.

[LBSOMEIRON]

Someone shoot me...

If anyone questions your physique to that extent after ONE week......so help me.

[40plusnewbie]

I stumbled across your log and I think if you look at yourself honestly you (like myself) may find you tend to go a little bit overboard, your statement about doing a double workout day and someone asking if you were O-K as you staggered to the showers and then missing a couple of days due to being sick stand out. Also if you look honestly at comment like I saw my biceps were larger than 2 days ago and my viens were visible on my shoulders that were not yesterday shows somewhat unrealistic expectations, the change in the viens was probably due to rocketing blood pressure, the biceps due to engorgment. Then there are all the comments about gaining a pound yesterday and loosing a pound today, these are just flutuations in the amount of water/crap in your body at any given time.

I am really not trying to bust you ass here, just saying that a well planned (smaller/less) cycle and a more consistant/moderate workout and diet schedule would probably serve you better. By the way I speak from experience here, I just completed my first cycle of Tren A and TNE at 60/75 ed and after PCT and another month of recovery, I plan to incorporate a much milder cycle the next time around.

Thanks for the feedback Far from massive. I may tend to go a bit overboard, I think it's due to the excitement I am feeling at the changes I am seeing and feeling and performing for the better. The guy asking me if I was ok and being in bed sleeping for the most of 2 days after a couple or 3 double workout days is not untruthful, frankly it was poor workout schedule planning on my part. I've been out of work for the past few weeks so have had a lot of extra time on my hands and really shouldn't be doing any double workout days.

I also realize that the initial show of veins was due to putting var in my system, not due to me adding 2 inches of permanent lean muscle mass on my arms overnight, it was a combo of a nice pump I was excited about plus it just felt nice to see the veins emerge, particularly given my high bf.

I also agree with the more moderate/consistent workout schedule would be better and it is a change I have already made. My diet is less than ideal as well, I imagine that it will continue to improve over time, but it's not bad right now at all, in fact it's pretty good.

Since midnight I've had 4 glasses of fat free milk, 1 banana, 2 pieces of ezekiel bread, 6 egg whites, about 5 tablespoons of black beans, 2tbsp of natty pb, and 3 lg turkey burgers. It's 12noon right now where I am so if you want to critique my food consuption I would appreciate any feedback you have to offer.

I respect your opinion on the smaller/less cycle but at age 43 have decided that I want to pack on the muscle at an accelerated pace so I am pushing things cycle wise at a higher throttle level than is recommended. I really have zero interest in spending the next 5 years pushing myself to get to my natural limit and then turning towards steroids. So this is an area in which I respect your advice as well but am going to just say I have made up my mind to get where I want to be physically within 5 years and will agressively cycle (2x/yr) until I get where I want to be. I'm not trying to be 290lbs ripped so I don't think I will have a problem reaching my goal within 5 years.

I"m also open to any other feedback you have to offer and hope you are mature enough to respect that I respectfully decline to follow your advice in following the standard cycle progression recommendations and not let that get in the way of you offering any other critiques that you may have. I've got a couple of troll fan boys in this thread that are on my ignore list due to offering feedback in either an ignorant, arrogant, immature, or some other type of dickish way.

Thanks for taking the time to provide me with your insights. It is appreciated.

[morty]

I"m also open to any other feedback you have to offer and hope you are mature enough to respect that I respectfully decline to follow your advice in following the standard cycle progression recommendations and not let that get in the way of you offering any other critiques that you may have. I've got a couple of troll fan boys in this thread that are on my ignore list due to offering feedback in either an ignorant, arrogant, immature, or some other type of dickish way.

Thanks for taking the time to provide me with your insights. It is appreciated.

This is the reason you will never get any advice. You will continue with the wrong cycle, the wrong diet and the wrong training. At your age you would think that you would at least took some advise from vets before you went on this binge to nowhere. Just so you know I am also 43 years old and started my first cycle this year but listened to a few vets I trust before I started my cycle. My diet was perfect for 6 months prior and I went from 30%bf to just under 14%bf on the keto diet and daily cardio. I did a very mild cycle with test and var with a gain of 10lbs at the end. That doesn't sound like much but I am very happy with it. I'm not looking to gain extreme mass but nice solid lean ones without getting crazy amounts of gear.
My diet is very consistent with mostly whole food nothing processed or out of a can. My training is 5 days a week and I know my body well so if I want to throw in another day I do. But if my body tells me to rest then its time to take it easy for a day or two.
Sorry for causing you some trouble in this thread but I found it very amusing and lacked self control. Just though I would let you know where I was coming from I looked at your thread and you were the same age and on the same cycle, then I started reading and all I could see into this was train wreck waiting to happen. It looked like it was to much of a disaster to be true. Just being honest here.
Not sure how you want to take this but I thought I owed you a explanation.

[LBSOMEIRON]

Morty it's wasted breath (typing).

This character is so far out of touch with reality, it's sick.

It's truly a disease. His self image is so skewed and he's so depressed that he feels compelled to tell people famished stories. Cmon. Who wouldn't post a pick if asked for by 10 dudes to prove his big mouth.

Look. I had him pegged at a heavy 230lbs and maybe 27 years old.

Look at his grammar. If he's 30 I'll Be shocked.

He's simply clueless and has no business using creatine let alone gear.

Who raves about going to the gym and doing 5 sets?

Oh and his coworkers aren't going to recognize him after a week?

Dudes like superman.

[40plusnewbie]

lol the 2 trolls that are on my ignore list are still postin here LMAO

[LBSOMEIRON]

Lmao at the OP.

This is an Enjoyable read.

Keep posting!


Joker.

[vicious-nicholas]

What's up I'm new to this forum. Actually new to the whole community. If anyone can give me some pointers on how to get started up that would be great. I don't fully no the rules to the forum yet. I don't know if I'm crossing the line but my mane goal is to find some Anavar from a legit vender.

[LBSOMEIRON]

40- just saw your anonymous pics that DSM posted.

Did you just get back from the NFL combine?

[bub77]

this sounds alot like my sisuation

[40plusnewbie]

I am not giving anyone sources and it is against the rules to ask for any sources vicious. I suggest u read the forum rules.

[40plusnewbie]

Went back to the gym for the first time in a week today. This past weekend I had a lot of family obligations, basically dropped the ball on Mon and Tues, went back to work Wed for the first time in a month. I was out due to a bad case of vertigo and my first cpl of days back tired the hell out of me from staring at a computer screen all day as I am not completely over the vertigo so Wed I slept for 15 hours and Thur about 12.5 (heavy nap after work).

Felt great to be back in the gym. My strength continues to increase, worked my abs and obliques. Increased weight by 10-20lbs and got a cpl extra reps out on about 1/2 the sets as well. All I need now is a protein iv drip and I'll be all set.

[boundup]

40,

We started our Var cycles around the same time, and I am truly confused by what is going on here buddy. You're cycle seems all over the place dude.

[LBSOMEIRON]

Lol - he isnt sure either.

I reccomend reading this for entertainment purposes only.

The only thing I know is that he gets stronger, bigger and leaner everyday.

He got hooked up with the magic anavar.

I think it also makes you a little delusional

Fun read though.

[Peace Missile]

...interesting

[40plusnewbie]

40,

We started our Var cycles around the same time, and I am truly confused by what is going on here buddy. You're cycle seems all over the place dude.

Obviously it's not a 'var cycle' anymore. Initially I was planning a test prop/var cycle but my adex came up missing so I dropped the idea of running test due to my high bf without an ai. Then a cpl weeks in or thereabouts a friend wanted to run some test So I grabbed some test cyp for him and me and some lettro as an IA and went ahead and used test as I originally planned to. I don't think it's possible to change titles in a thread, hence mine still says var cycle. I also threw in tren via fina pellets transdermally with dmso.

I'm getting decent results bro, aside from some mildly annoying acne things are going well. My strength continues to rise nicely and my physique is changing as well (nice addition of muscle).

Do you have a specific concern or concerns? So i'm doing a test/var/tren cycle. using hcg as well. and a little letro as a preventative measure.

Do you have any questions? I"m not sure what to make of your comment. My cycle is in place and working well. Am I using a lot of compounds? Yes. Am I ok with that? Yes. Are my bp and lipid profile both fine? Yes. Am I killing it in the gym? Yes. Am I eating perfectly? No (which simply means I will not maximize my gains, not that I'm sucking in bad fats, bad carbs, sugar, etc) I was out of work for 1 month since the start of my cycle due to some pretty severe vertigo where i could not walk without assistance for a few days and walked unbalanced for a couple weeks where I looked drunk as hell from a distance walking I'm sure. I was unable to drive for a few weeks. The 4th week I was able to drive but not read small print. Now I just have some headaches, light dizziness/lightheaded. This interfered with my shopping/food prep as I was needing to hold onto the wall to go to the bathroom or kitchen and first 2 weeks was mostly laying in bed with my eyes closed as I had some severe eye strain from looking at anything- Symptom on the virtigo where your eyes don't move in unison so everything looks blurry and it's a strain to try to look at anything and focus at all.

Taking a day off lifting today after past 2 days great workouts and will be back in the gym tomorrow lifting heavier with a cpl other body parts. My muscles are growing and I'm happy.

[SergeantCarbs]

Any update on your progress?
I'm interested in hearing about your gains/losses and especially any change in waist size during your cycle.

[Egan]

So can someone tell me is this guy for real or what iread the walls of text and banter and have no idea?